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    G73JH Users please post a few furmark runs!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by HeavenCry, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. HeavenCry

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    I would like them for comparison.
    Please post if you have stock paste or any other, an also please post idle temperatures on stock clocks (700/1200) and voltage you are using (1.15 or 1.05v).
    Thank you! :D
     
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    Sorry, I skinned my furmark beast. Can't help.
     
  3. HeavenCry

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    What do you mean by you skinned it?
     
  4. Jukens

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    IDLE:
    TSS 0 59C
    TSS 1 72C
    TSS 2 64C

    Furmark puts my TSS 1 at the limit of 110C and shuts down my system in less than a minute. I have the stock pads/compounds.
     
  5. HeavenCry

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    That is pretty bad.. i suspect its stock settings too (700/1000 clocks, 1.15v)?
    How come you dont RMA it if its shutting down due to thermal issues?
     
  6. Jukens

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    i am in kuwait for the rest of the year so I'd prefer to wait til I return to the US for any RMA also when gaming it never reaches the shutdown temp. btw where are your results?
     
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    Hey HellCry. i wonder what is you max temps with mod vbios? Mine gets 84C by core and 90 by TSS1 5 min furmark. Ambient temparature 30C.
     
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    My temps on non-gaming use are, AMD GPU tool sensors:

    51 C
    54 C
    55 C

    After 15 minutes Furmark stress-test the temperature goes up to 89 C onhighest sensor.

    Ambient temp around 22 C, all thermal paste and pads stock (never opened).
     
  9. HeavenCry

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    Thank you for all this info, i havent changed voltages on default clocks on my vBios so it shouldnt run cooler, but it seams the IC Diamond thermal paste wasnt applied properly, since i get to 105C very fast in furmark and have to shut it down before the laptop does. My ambient is 22C so its not too hot.
    You two have excellent temperatures, thats what i wanted when i ordered the thermal paste upgrade, but this is not good...
     
  10. DCx

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    there is a benchmark thread with many furmark temp reports. Also, there are other threads listing temps from furmark. Try the search function. Don't tell me they're not there, I've started two of them.
     
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    I reckon it is most likely the paste. With properly applied IC Diamond it should be getting results better than mine, and I have the same ambient temperature. Whether it's a paste reapplication needed, or reseating the heatsink, unless you're good as disassembly I'd return it to the reseller and get them to redo the paste, then test it with furmark before returning it. Don't waste your time trying to change voltage/clocks etc.
     
  12. gedekran

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    Using ATI 10.6 drivers, Bios 209. All temps Celsius.

    Ambient 26.7

    TSS0: 58.5
    TSS1: 67.0
    TSS2: 60.0


    15 minutes of Furmark, Stability Test, Extreme Burning Mode, 800x600, no MSAA.

    FPS: Min=33 Max=41 Avg=37
    Core: 700MHz
    Memory: 1000MHz

    TSS0: 85.0
    TSS1: 100.0
    TSS2: 90.5

    Screenshot of this: http://www.gedekran.com/upload/furmark-screen.jpg
     
  13. HeavenCry

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    I know theres a whole long thread and i went through it but i wanted more detailed information - what paste, voltages and clocks.

    And thank you to all who posted your runs!
     
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    Alot of the G73s run hot and i would say they are the majority... I ripped mine apart when i had it and repasted the GPU and dropped in the 920 CPU at which point i was using ICD for my paste but it still ran hot....

    It did not hit 105 but it was still hot in the 90s.... Some of the machines people have been blessed and they have ran cool and as you can see others hit 105 or higher quickly as well...

    If i were to guess id say its an inconsistency in the way the heatsinks are made since i am seeing the same thing on the M15xs with some people getting many degrees less then others even with proper paste jobs and new thermal pads etc...

    This stuff happens though and while it stinks sadly theres only few options other then yanking it apart and trying again.. The problem with that is that you have to rip the whole machine apart just to apply paste then put it all back together and if your not happy rinse repeat till its right... On most machines its a 10 minute job and on that its just so much more ....

    Hope you get it resolved soon though and good luck...
     
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    Mid 90s would still be fine on furmark, thats not so hot anymore, but over 100C (105C) is a major problem though... Thats what it seams is the problem - those g73jh that dont have the thermal paste or pads applied properly run hot, those with a good application have normal temperatures - as you said after redoing the paste you dont get that hot anymore (sure theres also a difference from system to system, but in general if you have proper thermal contact with the heatsink you should run up to ~95C id say)...
     
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    95.5C after a benchmarking run of devil may cry. Too high too isnt it?
    And i seam to be missing alot of letters when typing (im sure i didnt miss pressing them or press them too softly and yes, i do type very fast), i though the 209 bios fixed this issue?
     
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    I think uninstalling the touchpad driver helped with the missing keystrokes ? its been so long i cant remember honestly but its worth a shot since it only takes a minute...

    As for DMC and 95.5 yeah its a bit on the toasty side so what i would do and i know your not going to want to hear this is just take it apart and redo the paste yourself.. Be it diamond or whatever you have laying around ...

    There is a good video floating around now that shows you exactly what to do vs me being the first G73 owner and ripping it apart day 1 going in blind :)...

    I know you have some skills based on that 5870 mod in the Clevo so this project should not be any worse and it will put your mind at ease on the temps...

    The challenge will be getting that heatsink seated just right the first shot and not having to do it again ... Most of all make sure to apply as much pressure as you can while bolting it down to get good contact..
     
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    The BIOS didn't fix that.

    The "new" Synaptics driver on the ASUS site is the same driver that came on the driver/utility disk so it didn't help me at all.

    The only solution that works for me is to disable the touchpad in BIOS.
     
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    So did removing the synaptics driver help or did you have to disable it in bios and can still keep the driver or both disable in bios and remove the driver?
    And can anyone please post some cpu temperatures idle/load?
     
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    I disabled it in device manager and that "fixed" it.
     
  21. HeavenCry

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    Well its not really a fix, but its good enough for me since you can enable it again any time. So you still have the synaptics driver loading at startup and running in the background? Or did you also uninstall it?
     
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    I tried lowering voltages by flashing a modded vBios with 1.05v (the same voltage Ziddy used), but as some users already reported, the temperatures were actually HIGHER than on 1.15v (around 3-4C on idle), so i reflashed back.
    Dont know why, but after flashing back to my old modded vBios the temperatures were as before lower again.
     
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    I disabled the touchpad in bios and the keyboard now works just fine.

    @DCx
    How exactly did you disable the touchpad in windows???
    I cant do it in device manager, so where did you find it?
     
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    Fn+F9 works for me.

    Also, in device manager its listed in Mice and other pointing devices >Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad.

    Unless you did a fresh install and you didn't install the ATK package + stuff, so Fn+F9 doesn't work for you.
     
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    To elaborate: I want to have a fully functional keyboard that doesnt miss keystokes AND the ability to enable/disable touchpad at will in windows if possible (its kinda annoying doing it in bios every time i decide i need it again).

    Fn+F9 only works with the synaptics driver installed, and that is a bad option for me, since i cant have the touchpad enabled in bios while the drivers are installed, since the synaptics drivers cause the keyboard to miss keystrokes.

    Keyboard will only work normally in the following scenarios:
    1) If i have the touchpad disabled in bios with synaptics drivers installed, but i cant enable the touchpad back, becouse the keyboard will again not function right, so in this scenario i cant use the touchpad (disabling it in windows does not help). And i want the touchpad for when i just want to do something fast on the way (i dont care much about multitouch, so i dont really need the drivers)...
    2) If i dont have synaptics drivers installed, everything works even with touchpad enabled, but i cant disable/enable the touchpad in windows under device manager, since there is no option, and disabling/enabling it in bios is troublesome.

    This is why i am asking DCx how he disabled his touchpad in device manager.
     
  26. shin777

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    oh, congratuate. looks like u are one of that unlucky 1 out of 2000 ppls.
    i am glad that i didn't get g73jh now. reapplying better thermal paste, flashy bios, upgrade drivers and still toasty. i feel bad for u. :p
     
  27. HeavenCry

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    Yes i got unlucky, but we are working it out with GenTech to fix it.
    Will post what we will come up with.
     
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    I am using stock vbios, 209 bios, catalyst 10.6, gelid gc extreme thermal paste, without cooling pad, AC room

    on idle :
    TSS0:53C
    TSS1:56C

    10 minutes furmark with extreme burning, 8xMSAA, 1920x1080 res :
    TSS0:82C
    TSS1:89C
     
  29. gedekran

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    My fans don't kick into full until TSS1 is 98c, which is why that temp fluctuates from 97c to 100c.
     
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    I think the fans kick with TSS0 (DispIO) around 82C. Because before changing thermal paste and after changing thermal paste the fans still kick into full on TSS0 82C.
     
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    I checked a few more times, close enough to 82.
    TSS0: 81.50
    TSS1: 97.50
    TSS2: 87.00
     
  32. HeavenCry

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    Thank you for your effort!
    low 50s in idle and max 89C with furmark is what i want...

    How about CPU temperatures? What temperatures are you idling at and what do you get at full load with (with OCCT or after Vantage)?
    Is it normal for 1 or 2 cores to be 4-5C hotter than the others (in idle especially visible) - is it becouse only that 1 or 2 are being used or is the themal paste not applied properly?
     
  33. Tim4

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    It's because of core parking.You have nothing to worry about.If you want you can disable core parking,I've seen thread somewhere in this forum describing that process.My temps for cpu idle 41C load 62C.Hope that will help.
     
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    With an ambient of 26.7, cpu at idle is 50, and maxed is 80.
     
  35. HeavenCry

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    I idle at 47-50C and top out at 69C with OCCT...
    But i do have the i7-820qm. Ambient now is 26C.
    Seams my cpu is pretty fine.
     
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    Did I see someone mention they dropped in a 920? Like as in a desktop 920 1366pin?
     
  37. HeavenCry

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    No, you cant do that, you can put in an i7-920 xm (mobile extreme cpu) and it unlocks multiplier options in bios.

    The only two laptops that have desktop cpus are the Clevos D900F i had and the X7200 that is coming, which both have a desktop x58 motherboard, with the best cooling youll find in any laptop (makes sure the 135w desktop i7s dont melt a hole in the chassis :p).
    You cant just put a desktop cpu in a mobile socket.
     
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    just checking :)
     
  39. Kenny_Zero

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    Just ran Furmark stress test on my new g73.

    At full load, 1920x1080 res, 8xMSAA and extreme burning and 20 minutes of run-time :
    Max temperature = 89c

    Although avg fps was around 6, max=213, min=1..

    Hope this temp and everything else is fine.. :confused:

    PS: Room temp was 25c.. No cooler, just a little elevated position.
     
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    that's a really nice temp IMO
     
  41. HeavenCry

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    Kenny youre really lucky, those temps are very nice. :)
     
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    Knock on wood. I feel good that even though I feel scared to game since my keys might fall of due to the keyboard being high quality :rolleyes: , my GPU and CPU are fine. But are the FPS that I get also fine for this??

    Update: I couldn't rate my computer using the WEI since I got the laptop. Just dint seem to register when I click the rate button. Found out the problem.
    If any of you have problems with the WEI, go to c:\>windows\performance\winSAT\datastore\ and delete everything with an XML extension. Now everything should be fine with the WEI and you can rate your machine.This method Works fine if you just want to reset the WEI also.
     
  43. Tim4

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    Furmark used to monitor temps. To see how good you videocard will perform, it's better to run some 3Dmark benches and compare score with others.
     
  44. Kenny_Zero

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    Will do that today!!
     
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    If you want to compare i get 7,2 on WEI.
     
  46. Kenny_Zero

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    Well..I do have to come down somewhere. I only get 7.1 in WEI. Bottle neck is the CPU. :(

    I dont know why that is since we both have almost the same specs.
     
  47. HeavenCry

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    I did mess around in registry a bit to do some tweaking (like disabling core parking)..
    And perhaps you had something else running in background..
    Dont worry, 7.1 is fine. :)
    I get 7.2 on CPU and GPU, 7.4 on memory and 7.7 on SSD to be more exact. Do you get the same score in other areas?
     
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    Strange. I get 7.0 for CPU, 7.2 for GPU, and 7.5 for Memory.

    I would be worried, but WEI isn't the most reliable benchmark anyway.
     
  49. Kenny_Zero

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    Well, I did mess with the registry as well. Maybe not to the extent u have. But i did disable the core parking right after i got the laptop. Some other tweaks as well. But yeah, i guess i do have somethings running in the back ground.

    I get 7.1 for CPU, 7.2 for GPU, 7.5 for Memory, and 7.7 for the SSD :D


    Dont worry, 1st time i ran WEI, I got 7.1. Next time 7.0 and i was like :eek: . The final time i ran it, a 7.1 . Proves that this thing is not reliable at all!!
    Then again, we both are running an i7-820QM while you have an i7-720QM.
     
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    Ooh. I missed that. Carry on. :p
     
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