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    G73JH Weird Temperature Issue

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by himynamesnoah, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. himynamesnoah

    himynamesnoah Newbie

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    So I just got a used G73JH-RBBX05 (The Best Buy model.)
    As soon as I got it, i went along to flash the vBios and bios. I used this guide, along with the vBios (OC one) and Bios (213) in it.

    At first, it worked great. Temps on the CPU were around 60 idle, GPU lowered to around 50-55C idle, maybe even lower. I was really happy that the temps dropped considerably.

    The previous owner didn't delete all their stuff, so i decided to do a clean install of Windows 7 Home Premium. All went well, i installed all the Asus drivers, and i installed the CCC 12.6 drivers. I checked the temps, and they seemed awfully high for doing simple things, like browsing the internet and installing some stuff. The GPU was around 75C with only 1% GPU usage. The CPU was around 65-75C depending on the core. I though this was weird, then i noticed that the GPU showed as a FirePro M7280, so i googled it and saw I just needed to remove the old drivers, and install the mobile ones.
    I did that, all went well, except the temps are still higher than they were before I re-installed Windows.

    The temps dropped a bit after i installed the mobile drivers, but the CPU is around 60-65C and GPU around 70C. Those temps are while i'm typing this out, with only a few tabs open, CCC, and HWMonitor.

    So do i need to re-flash the vBios to get these temps back lower, or what?

    Tl;dr Temps were around 50-55C idle on the GPU, re-installed Windows, now they are 70-75C idle.
    My current vBios version is - 012.020.000.032

    Any help is appreciated, thanks.

    EDIT: I think I found something. I was using HWInfo, and i noticed the clocks are 350 Core/ 1000 Mem. I think it's getting stuck on 1000 Mem, instead of downclocking to 2d. How do i go about fixing this?
     
  2. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

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    Please download RBE from here : RBE - Radeon BIOS editor then open the program and it will let you look at your VBIOS file. Then please post a screen shot similar to the second one in the link I suggested. The version you underlined looks good.
    PS Welcome to the forum,
     
  3. carulli

    carulli Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am pretty sure "powerplay" controls the automatic downlocking. Make sure it is enabled. I use ATT instead of CCC so I cant test this sorry... Also, I remember when i had windows dream scene installed my card would idle at 3D clocks did you recently install anything like that?
     
  4. himynamesnoah

    himynamesnoah Newbie

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    Thanks, to both of you.
    Here is a screenshot of my vBios:
    bRpr34I2Xu.png

    Here is a picture of my current temps, while i'm posting this:
    7774xCvsXI.png

    I'd gladly flash a new vBios if there is a better one. I'm new to this laptop, so I don't know what is good and what isn't. And i haven't installed much, just basic programs. Nothing like Dreamscene.

    I tried installing ATI Tray Tools, i got an error for some DLL, i'll have to fix it later.

    Also, another small problem. It's not really a big deal to me, but maybe it can be fixed. I think my battery is almost gone.
    Windows 7 says 'There is a problem with your battery, so your computer might shut down suddenly.' Most of the time it shows it, sometimes it doesn't. It's at '35% available (Plugged in, not charging.)' Here is a screenshot of HWInfo for my battery:
    iC9swhlETx.png
    What else is weird, it seems i have to unplug and replug the charger back in for the battery charge % to update. It says it wasn't charging, and was at 35%, unplugged it, showed 100% battery, plugged it back in and it shows 84%, still not charging, but doesn't show that i need a new battery.
    And HWInfo is showing weird battery charge levels. I unplugged it and it showed like 352% charge level, it says the max it was is 1788%. Now i just unplugged it and it shows 84%. Plugged it back in, shows 84% and charging now.

    Here is what HWInfo shows now, it's unplugged at the moment.
    p8nMHtMoHi.png

    Something is weird with the battery. I think it's gonna go soon.
     
  5. himynamesnoah

    himynamesnoah Newbie

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    Ok, so I think this is a driver issue. Something software related. I just played BF3, and I didn't get over 30 FPS, even with low settings. I got about the same FPS no matter what setting.
    I was watching the clocks on the GPU and they kept dropping to 350, instead of 700 like it should stay at. It was at 350 most of the time. So, how do i got about fixing this?

    And temps were down to like they were before, in the mid 50's, then after BF3, the GPU is staying at around 75-80C. Should i try another vBios? What do you recommend?
    EDIT: And, while i'm typing this, GPU-Z shows 30% fans on the GPU and around 80C temp with 0% usage. Something is definately wrong. It's at 350 core and 1000 mem.
     
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    himynamesnoah Newbie

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    Okay, so the temps went back to normal. I don't know why, but they did. I decided to use an air can and blow some dust out of the vents, a decent amount came out, and now i'm down from 55C-ish to more around 50C, and CPU temps dropped a decent amount.
    Now my main problems are the battery issue and my GPU seems to be under performing.

    Battery Issues Described/Pics
    So i'll just copy and paste this from my above posts.
    Also, another small problem. It's not really a big deal to me, but maybe it can be fixed. I think my battery is almost gone.
    Windows 7 says 'There is a problem with your battery, so your computer might shut down suddenly.' Most of the time it shows it, sometimes it doesn't. It's at '35% available (Plugged in, not charging.)'

    Here is a screenshot of HWInfo for my battery:
    View attachment 82038
    What else is weird, it seems i have to unplug and replug the charger back in for the battery charge % to update. It says it wasn't charging, and was at 35%, unplugged it, showed 100% battery, plugged it back in and it shows 84%, still not charging, but doesn't show that i need a new battery.
    And HWInfo is showing weird battery charge levels. I unplugged it and it showed like 352% charge level, it says the max it was is 1788%. Now i just unplugged it and it shows 84%. Plugged it back in, shows 84% and charging now.

    Here is what HWInfo shows now, it's unplugged at the moment.
    View attachment 82042

    GPU Issues Described
    So, I seem to be having some problems with my 5870m. I tried playing BF3, but really no matter what settings, I can't get over 30FPS. It's usually mid-20's and lower. Even with everything on low. I get basically the same FPS with everything on low, including AA, post AA, etc..
    I don't really know how to fix this. Any ideas? I'll try overclocking it right now. I'm using High Performance in Power4Gear, with turbo on.
     
  7. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Well removing the dust is the reason the temps went back to normal obviously, dust is the #1 impediment to good heat transfer in a laptop.
     
  8. JOSEA

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    OP, I would suggest a "clean install" of your ATI/CCC ... see HOw to setup (11 steps in the first post) in this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...st-11-2-mobility-released-get-yours-here.html just subustitute a more recent version of CCC, Also be sure to use the latest versions of Driver Sweeper and CCLeaner.
    Also comparing your VBIOS with mine (created by the legendary Chastity) there are differences, I would defer to someone else to suggest if this this the cause of the GPU issue
     
  9. himynamesnoah

    himynamesnoah Newbie

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    Thanks for all the help guys, buy everything seemed to sort itself out.
    The temps went down to normal, and THEN i dusted it. After dusting it dropped it even lower.

    Another question, what FPS is everyone getting on BF3, and with what settings?
    I also overclocked my GPU to 800/1100, temps seem fine. After hours of Civ 5, only hitting around 76. I know Civ isn't that demanding though.
     
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    I fixed it, it was the color bit depth. For some reason it got changed to 16-bit.

    EDIT: Well, all my problems seemed to have vanished. I'm getting low temps, and good FPS. The battery seems fine now too. I'm running my GPU at 800/1100. I'll probably try and go higher tomorrow. It seems like i'm not passing around 73C, on BF3, which is really weird, but it's cool with me.

    This is awesome. Thanks for all the help.
     
  12. Toxictaru

    Toxictaru Notebook Consultant

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    If your battery keeps giving weird charge levels, it could be an indication of a few things. Simplest solution is to just reset the battery, easily done by running a benchmark test in DOS mode with the power unplugged (will kill the charge quick). You can also change the power settings in Windows to not warn/shutdown when the battery reaches certain levels... the DOS method is more reliable as far as killing the charge though.

    My JH had the same problem. Battery light started blinking, even when plugged in. Started showing weird wear levels, which started to drop quickly. I reset the battery first, and that cleared the problem. However, my wife went ahead and took my laptop for Mass Effect 3 day, and ran it on battery for a while. From that point on, I couldn't get it back to normal, and ultimately found the battery had died.

    There could be any number of problems, but those two are reasonably common.