G73JH puts out image on external only

G73JH puts out image on external only with alienware HD7970 but, original video card outputs to internal screen.

 

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yeah i got a bit too excited and had hayday on Google search. alrightly, i got the original hd5000 working fully, and the what i have been told is a dell a HD6970m (dark brown) posting to external monitor. how do i get the hd6970m to pot the to the internal screen like the HD5000 does? will flashing to the latest modded bios help that? do i need to mod the hd6970m's vbios? do i need to do the rain dance?


unknown brand GT210m mxm 3.0 A < in valid MXM structure

Original HD5870m < seems to work normally like it should

supposed Dell HD6970m < seems to work with external screen only.

 

Did you wait 30 seconds on the invalid structure message?

The 6990m you would need to try other vbios files. Just make sure you have a recovery method for it.

 

Forget the GT210, just letting you know i tested it. i thought the other 2 cards were DOA and got the GT210. However the other 2 cards work.

Okay, what vbioses should I try? How do i go about making sure i have a recovery method?

EDIT: do you think both or rather all 3 cards would be worth about $320 USD if i sold them all? An HD8970m can be hand for a little over $350 USD. Just considering the idea.

 

Found these:

Recovering a notebook GPU from a bad flash

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...=&model=HD+6970M&interface=&memType=&memSize=

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...lp-i-bricked-my-g73-vbios-16.html#post6647309

 

That kind of thing or have a system like mine (old acer 5935G) that will flash pretty much any card.

 

Should I try the Clevo bios? OR is there an expert i should try to find?

EDIT: I suppose there is the ASUS vbios but, idk if that advisable since they had issues.

 

Well I updated system bios to 213 modded V5. Still no change. IDK what vbios is the safest to try. Let alone do i know for sure what version i do have.


eDIT: I guess i might try clevo, going to google flashing guide now.


EDIT: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...um/641007-g73jh-6970m-upgrade-infomation.html

well then i may very well be knackered. I might try installing windows and seeing what GPU brand shows up in GPU-z.

 

Look at the core pictures the first 2 pictures left corner and last two right corner. Is that a gray line on the core or just thermal paste ? If not then your core has been damaged.

Had the same problem with one GPU. At first internal had strange color issue and then was dark but external screen was OK.

Got the GPU replaced and got image on the primary screen.

 

Yeah if that is a chip and crack then that could be it.

 

cleaned it up, https://imgur.com/a/RhIIT

looks like IRL a light scuff at best. if it is a BGA failure, if a backing or reflow worked then maybe a reball wold fix it for a long time. I have a thread where i removed a cracked core and found a replacement core but, botched the wicking process.

Also i just cleaned the contacts with paper and it left black marks on the paper. more than likely it's still broken but, i'm going to give ti a try. maybe i can trade all my MXM cards for a good working one that is faster than my working HD5870m.

I have the 1080p screen or so i was told by the seller, i'm gonna need some power to push the pixles.

 

is it normal for it to hang boot with drives installed?

 

sometimes a few off colors sometimes not, after installing drivers so far i have no image but, i will wait a bit longer. i have not been able to boot form DVD but, it's sitting on cardboard.

i wonder if baking would help it, then if that worked i could get it re flowed. Maybe going to try the original HD5870m but, the HD6970m is supposed to be faster than the HD5870m.

EDIT; wwhhhaaaaaaaaa ..... oooohhhhh what!?

idk what button i pushed but i see any image on the internal screen!!!!!, now is going to keep hanging at the bios screen?


EDIT: still a blank screen after boot animation. Will see if i can i get a clean install going.

EDIT: the guy who who sold me this must have bought the wrong replacement keyboard or something the cables are different but, i may have had it hooked up up side down because of that.

EDIT: aaannnnddddd it's gone, not booting from internal screen again. this keyboard was supposed to be new yet this keyboard doesn't move any thing in the bios, yet after installing this keyboard i was able to get an image on the internal screen after pressing buttons.

EDIT: and it's refusing to see my windows 7 DVDs. i do not have bootable USB installer or spare USB drive. Frustrating for sure, i think about my Acer 5920G sure it's was only a dual core and GT240 but, at least it worked. : / Can't believe these things are selling for 450-500 USD.

EDIT: was able to initiate the widow 7 install, same weird colors, tells me it's not identifying as modern VGA card, since it's in 8/16 bit colors. I think i might want to try baking it, also get the internal screen working again and get 1 of key keyboards working. wonder if the internal screen is not working has to to do with the video card only being screwed down on 1 side.

EDIT: zip tied the other side of the card down, funny colors have went away and internal screen seems to working, consistently.

EDIT: it shows up, in windows with correct colors, on the internal screen, in my "3d balls" stress test and device manager as "HD6900 series".

I'm afraid to even breath on it wrong. is supposed to be showing up as HD6970"

EDIT: and of course there seems to be "spot" on the screen, of course i won't be able to tell if that is from the seller or me.

 

Then this happneed trying to run furmaark,



think had something to do with having an external hook up. rebooted, works fine except it just turns off about 86-87c in furmark. is my fan not running fast enough or is it the modded bios?

ideling at 6xc but, again i'm on cardboard



wondering if it's related to fan speed, it doesn't sound loud so maybe it is not at full speed. going to consult the G73JH guide again. maybe i can sell these cards and get something better.

EDIT: i don't have the heat sinks on the VRMs of the HD9670m, that might be why it shut off.

 

Yeah those vrms have been know to blow with no/poor cooling so furmarking them in that state is a bad idea.

 

i'm gonna heat sink them so hard that the heat sink prop up the whole laptop in to out space with 40 mile tall heat sinks. >: D
I do hope that solves the shut down problem.

 

Lol well just be careful of shorts

 

Yeah I noticed that, it's going to take time to get proper fitment, the contacts and solder joints are all over the place.

 

Yep worth the time as it has happened a fair bit due to lack of contact or just touching the wrong points.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/533313-g73jh-pcie-speeds-4.html'

been looking atthis thread and it's totoal cliff hanger. i too see PCIe v1.1 @16x, i haven't run PCIe speed tester yet but, the heck Ruckus is banned and the thread as locked down. did the modded bios not fix this? can bas clock OC on the system help?

Still working on heat sinks and cooling i'll be posting back with pics if and when possible. Gonna go do some googling on 1600/1800mhz ram.

EDIT: turns out the HD6970m is 25-50 watts more than the original setup, so i will need a 240watt PSU before i can really start stressing it.

 

It wont really have an impact on performance being at 1.1.

 

WIP

 

Looking good so far, just be aware of how much vertical room you have to play with.

 

Yeah i'm going to put rounded rubber feet bumpers on the bottom of the laptop.

 

Are you cutting into the bottom panel to expose them?

 

I have to, at least as far as i know. I mocked it up, and those heat sinks LOOK to protrude some where around a 1/4"inch or there about. I have though about "forming" a contoured piece of mesh that i glue in to the bottom removable cover that, covers the heat sinks so they don't get caught or make contact with a laptop bag when sliding in and out.

I have more pictures on the way, and as long ans i didn't kill any of the chips with static or any thing thinking of making a new post just about the cooling mods, with pictures and explanation for any on else who might want to do the same.


aaannnnnndddd it's jinxed. funny colors again. IDK if i can fix it this time.

EDIT: maybe if i'm lucky it has something to do with the heat sinks not being "square" it's not contacting fully and i'm not quite sure just yet.

EDIT: interesting indeed. i knew my heat pipe/heat sinks was tweaked, if it doesn't perform well i'll probably just grab a new GPU heatsink. any with monitor just sitting on laptop it was putting pressure on the gpu heat sinks, that wasn't helping much. it's sitting more sqaurley now. tempted to replace the springs with washer to up the clamping force on the GPU heat sink. you probably want it to be really square though so it doesn't push the GPU out of wack.


EDIT: anndd it it borked again, maybe reboot will help.

EDIT: and funny colors again. i swear this thing is almost not worth the materials it's made of. If i had the money i'd have powernotebooks laptop and call it a decade and be done with it.

EDIT: still not square.

And now it's not posting after i had the funny go away again.

 

baked the 6970m and it almost behaves it's putting image to screen and no funny colors now, at first i though it was the MXM slot but, baking almost helped but, the card still messes up really bad.

i would think it would suck to put the 5870m back in, how much is that worth? maybe i can sell it buy a used better video card? also who was the guy who got an nvidia card working?

 

Trouble is the cards second hand are quite expensive. And some of them are faulty. Or not fully compatible with the g73jh. As for the cost of two second hand 7970 I could buy a complete second hand clevo/Sager laptop with a 7970 inside I decided not to upgrade my g73jh.

If you could get a 5870 it should fit and work, and be a lot cheaper then the 7970.

If you are doing it for fun, and money is no issue, different story.

Baking cards is usually just a temporary fix too, they tend to fail a few months later. Some people bake a card then sell it, which isn't cool! A relow/reball is a better option, but requires more than an oven and tin foil!

 

It does become hard to justify keeping it alive if you have issues considering how much the cards are.

 

well if the HD5870 is good isn't that work like $125 on ebay? then pitch in another $175 out of pocket and get a 7970m or 8970m? the crappy part is this is my only laptop and i bought as parts to build it up in to a working laptop. i might just stick with the HD5870m for now, as turns out my USB just now quit working. i pretty much got burned on this gamble. but, if the board snaps back and USB works again i'll just use the slow HD5870 it came with. sure it's fast than a GT240m but, it's also pushing a higher resolution now.