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    G73JW pricing

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Design, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Chastity Company Representative

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    Actually, Asus DID redesign the cooling and case for the G73JW to accomodate the 480M.
     
  4. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    So uh, even though we don't know the exact jw specs yet... what are some opinions on the jh vs the jw? As in, I'm looking to buy a g73 type before sept., and the rumored release date for the jw+g53 is august - which would be the better buy if I'm not concerned with benchmarking pissing contests? A fermi will surely drive the price of a jw higher than a jh, but is USB3 and a possible matte LED enough to make the cost worthwhile? Then there's possible heat and noise issues...

    The problem is that I see the JW simply replacing the JH entirely, so that it'll be extremely difficult to find a JH once the JW is released. So a wait and see approach may not be in the cards here :/ Already kicking myself over not jumping on the BB05 model, since they are out of stock now.
     
  5. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Half the reason for the G73's success was their price point and the value performance. If Asus wishes to only sell about 2% of the quantity of the G73JH lineup, I don't see them abandoning them anytime soon.
     
  6. FilipAGuy

    FilipAGuy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello guys. My opinion is that 480M is not good choice for any laptop. Its realy monster GPU. Its more desktop card than mobile one. Yes its powerful, but thats all what can offer and is much more expensive than HD5970. So Im satisfied with my configuration.
     
  7. SparhawkJC

    SparhawkJC Notebook Evangelist

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    The GTX 480m =/= the desktop GTX 480. The GTX 480m looks to be similar to the GTX 465 and is rumored to have a TDP of 100 watts as apposed to the 200 watts of its desktop cousin.
     
  8. kowell

    kowell Notebook Evangelist

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    Where did you see this info?
     
  9. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    In one of the G73HW reviews. It mentioned the chassis was redone to accommodate it's new GPU, and that the cooling was beefed up a bit. It did not mention what GPU, just that it was a next-gen nvidia.
     
  10. royren2010

    royren2010 Notebook Consultant

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    I just found this pic on a Chinese forum, rumor said it's on G53 or G73 jw. looks like a new 4XXm card (460m?), definitely not 480m.

    [​IMG]


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    MR 5870 will definitely outperform this thing...... if G73 jw is going to get this, I will stick to jh...
     
  11. royren2010

    royren2010 Notebook Consultant

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    it's been a day... nobody interested in this topic anymore? :(
    Also, anybody think the G73jw is going to get the new intel i7 740m?
     
  12. kowell

    kowell Notebook Evangelist

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    It's not that people aren't interested anymore but that until Asus releases any more official info, it will only be the same rumours going in circles like its been doing for the last 8 days.
     
  13. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    For those interested.

    Notebookcheck.com has benched a Clevo D900F with GTX 480M and a Intel i7 940 Desktop.

    I did benchmarks to match up against this GTX 480M using the clocks I use when I game.

    As most of us suspected, the difference in gaming is about 5%. The difference is with tessellation, but at this point with gaming industry, I think tessellation means zilch, nada.

    G73jh HD5870M @ 800/1100 vs Clevo D900F GTX 480M (GTX480M uses 130 watts btw alone, 330 watts total with the CPU).

    Using my normal playing clocks. My gaming overclock is right now 800/1100, all the time.

    The 3DMark06 no comparison since it uses a desktop CPU.

    But the Vantage which is a far better benchmark for DX10 GPU, 9277 vs my 9026. That's about 3% increase in performance.

    THREE PERCENT.

    Bad Company 2
    Notebookcheck GTX 480M high, HBAO on, 4xAA, 8xAF 37 FPS
    My G73 HD5870M, HBAO on, 1xAA, 16xAF 45-60 FPS

    Dirt 2, Nvidia wins by 6%
    Notebookcheck GTX 480M gets 46.8 in DX11 Ultra
    [​IMG]

    CRYSIS ODDITY??? HD5870M wins by 25%
    Notebookcheck GTX 480M Very High, 0xAA, 0xAF 16.1 fps
    [​IMG]

    Unigine 2.0/2.1, Nvidia wins by 35%%

    Notebookcheck GTX 480M (Tessellation (normal) | High | all on | vsync, AA and AF respectively off) 33.7
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    Pretty much the same case with the desktop GTX 480 and 5870.
     
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    Riddhy916 Notebook Deity

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    thats disappoiniting for 480m only !!% faster with double tdp of 100w!! 5870m users can easily oc their card to achieve it i dont think 480m can be oced much
     
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    Yep Tessellation is a blowout also.

    All the stupid Nvidia marketing claimed 5X the tessellation power. As you can see, it's not even 2X, 35% matters little to zilch. Even with GTX 480M no one is going to be playing games with fully tessellated textures.

    Oh BTW, I will bet that the HD5870M is more than 5X more powerful than GTX480M for DirectCompute though.
     
  17. eazy_e

    eazy_e Notebook Consultant

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    thats a big overclock though. the 480m is stock and im sure if its anything like the 280m it will overclock like a beast..
     
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    Highly doubtful. The stock setting are already at the limit for power, and on load, the GTX 480M consumes 130w. That's already 30w beyond the 100w rating limit for MXM 3.

    Also if there was overclocking room you would think the memory wouldn't be at 600mhz.

    Dream on. GTX 280M is a G92 die shrunked with decent temps etc. This is FERMI GF100 with the worst power/temp ever seen from any computer hardware...
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The Crysis benchmark tool seemed to favor the nvidia cards in the past....interesting.
     
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    kalawera Notebook Guru

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    i7 720QM 1,6Ghz
    6Gb DDR3
    2 x 500Gb HDD 7200rpm
    Nvidia GTX 460M
    1920x1080 3D screen
    BlueRay/DVD-Burner combo
    3D glasses

    I think I'll stick with my G73JH.
    I hope there are not too many people who rushed off to sell their G73JH to prepare for the G73JW...
     
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    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    Glad I wasn't holding my breath on that one. xP
     
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    mjf6175 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Kinda of a let down. What is the point-3D? And at the expense of a lesser video card, the GTX460M?
     
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    ChiroVette Notebook Evangelist

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    I would guess that more info will come out on the G73JW this month. Oh, and if it uses a 460m card, that would be very disappointing. Even with 3D technology and USB 3.0, the curent G73JH should easily outperform the so-called "upgraded" model since the GeForce 460 is more comparable to the 360 and 260 than it is the 480. The bottom line is that the 480 is the ONLY single Nvidia GPU that can compete with the 5870. No way could the 460, unless I am missing something.

    Also, wouldn't the 285 actually outperform the 460?
     
  25. genocidew

    genocidew Notebook Evangelist

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    not to mention asus still using the 720qm when the 740qm is available -_-
     
  26. TheSortingHat

    TheSortingHat Notebook Enthusiast

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    it's still an option for people who want 3d, and yet 1920x1080 resolution. asus's g51 with 3d only manages a 1366x768, which is a bit of a shame for a 15 inch screen.

    i'm personally deciding between a clevo np8760 and a G73, still can't quite decide if this tips the balance.
     
  27. ChiroVette

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    In what way would it tip the balance? I ask because from where I am sitting, and I may be wrong here, the JW seems like a mostly inferior G73 that will probably have an inflated price because some novice PC users will be faked out by the 4xx NVidia card and not realize that there is a much more massive difference between the 460 and the 480 than there is between the 260 and the 460.
     
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