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    G73SW upgrade to different Asus GPU

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by fantomasz, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. fantomasz

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    Possible to replace 460 with 560 or 660 from other G series?
     
    fantomasz, Jul 16, 2012
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    560m - maybe from the G53sx, not sure though if the screw holes match.
    660m - no way, the form factor is very different.

    But one guy already confirmed that a 680m can successfully post in a G73sw. If he succeeds in assembling everything, that means regular MXM cards work in a G73sw. :)
     
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    i saw a post that some one manage to get the SW to recognize the 680 somewhere in the forum.
    but thats all i guess.
     
    megaX05, Jul 16, 2012
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    any update's on this asus g73sw GPU upgrade? 6990m? 7970m? or any other info on any G73SW GPU Upgrade im goung to get a G73sw if i can know that it will work?
    R&J Tech dous a 7970m with modded vBIOS that deactivates enduro/switchable graphics. any idear if this may make it more compatable with a g73sw? :confused: 7970m with modded vbios is here Laptop Video Cards :: ATI HD 7970M 2GB Mobile Video Card - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder
     
    yoshey791, Aug 2, 2012
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    I sold my G73 and want buy G75 but dont know which one to chose.
    660 or 670? possible to upgade?

    In my country we have G75 with 4GB ram.Its enought fo games?
     
    fantomasz, Aug 2, 2012
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    G75, no upgrading possible. You'll have to go with the G73SW. 4GB is enough for gaming.

    Just upgrade your P170 to the 680M and a MSI Steel Series instead.
     
    Zymphad, Aug 2, 2012
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    Anyone care to donate to a fund towards a 680m to test out on a ASUS G73SW? I will post pictures and video.
     
    Avensky, May 19, 2013
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    I have managed to upgrade to gtx 680m 4Gb from msi. It is not straight job as none of vbioses make laptop posts on internal screen. And even on externa via vga cable there is 30 second delay as valid mxm structure vas not found and laptop freezed on Windows logon screen.

    After we managed to modify vbios to load Windows then there were problems with clocking becouse of mxm structure not found I mentioned earlier power state was limited to P10 and core wouldnt og above 150mhz.

    Now I managed everything to work properly and only thing that is remaining to improve heatsink from g73jh so it does cover vrms that get pretty hot.
    When i got this done then I wil test performance and post here results.
     
    jmhdj, May 20, 2013
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    Please keep us posted, thanks for your hard work.
     
    Avensky, May 20, 2013
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    I've got a Asus GTX 560M from a G53SX working perfectly in my G73SW. I hope to get to try a 660M from a G75. The shape of that card is much differant so it will take some serious mods.
     
    Muratus, May 22, 2013
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    If you are going through all that effort why not try with a beefier card?
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 22, 2013
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  12. jmhdj

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    680m g73sw.jpg

    Here is Picture of hwinfo it does not show all inf on gpu correct but card is working almost Perfect :)
     
    jmhdj, May 23, 2013
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    What about GPU-Z, that's a more reliable gpu info tool.
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 24, 2013
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    Only problem I have now is that core is somehow limited to 150mhz max and with boost goes to 185mhz. Something with vbios is preventing core to clock normaly. But card is switching between Power states normaly.
    Even With core on 185mhz it outperform 460m in 3dmark11.
     
    jmhdj, May 26, 2013
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    Have you tried to use the P state force function of nvidia inspector?
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 26, 2013
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  16. jmhdj

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    You mean this via command line parameters? Like this command:
    nvidiaInspector.exe -setVoltageOffset:0,0,0 -setGpuClock:0,2,700 -setMemoryClock:0,2,1400 -forcepstate:0,0
     
    jmhdj, May 26, 2013
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    Yes that's the one, I take it that did not work?
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 26, 2013
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    No it dont. Memory speed changes acording value set in parameter but not on core.
     
    jmhdj, May 26, 2013
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    Sounds like a similar thing to when I tried a 460M in my 7738G and I never could figure out how to get round it :/ It just refuses to acknowledge the full performance state and is some sort of weird bios compatibility issue as far as I can tell.
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 26, 2013
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    With much help now core runs at 297mhz via boost overclocking . Just runned 3dmark11 and gottotal 2966 Points and 2745 in Graphics score..
     
    jmhdj, May 26, 2013
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    Update. Managed to get core to 640mhz and tested With 3dmark11 max wattage from socket 154watt max temp included on screenshot :)
    640 700.jpg
     
    jmhdj, May 27, 2013
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    Another update core is now fully unlocked and here is another 3dmarkk11 run with msi 680m stock clocks.
    770 900 small.jpg
    174 watt from wall and 81c peak temp.
    Dont want to push my luck just now and begin to overclock.
     
    jmhdj, May 27, 2013
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    :D this is great news for asus g73sw owners who wont to upgrade there GPU .
    any updates on this?
    dous anyone know if any of the new asus video card s gpu s will work in the g73sw? what about a GPU from the new asus G750? would a asus 765m GTX 770M or 780m work?
    keep up the good work :)
    oh and are you looking to sell that beast of a g73sw any time soon?
     
    yoshey791, Jul 18, 2013
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    :err:.......
     
    yoshey791, Jul 18, 2013
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    Hei. It still works perfect. I haved offer for 1800$ on it.
    Cards you mention arent possible for upgrade as they are much bigger form factor and thus no place inside chasis. Plus bios compatibility problem. 680m outperforms 770m anyway. asus 780m is not out yet.
     
    jmhdj, Jul 18, 2013
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    I have a G73SW-XT1. I would like to upgrade my GPU to a 600 class. I have a few questions. Is the GPU on a separate board or do you just swap out gpu's on the mobo? Did the 680 need better cooling or hardware from another model to hold GPU in place? Where did you buy your GPU from? I've heard of a company called MXM that was flashing the proper vbios to the card so it would work properly. Did you or can you publish a step by step tutorial on your GPU upgrade? Thanks!
     
    fsk2013, Nov 11, 2013
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    Hi. Gpu is Board itself is so called MXM 3.0b form factor. But asus GPUs are tottaly different shapes. so only standard MXM form factor will fit inside plus you must switch gpu heatsink with that of older g73jh. And then there is video bios compatibility issue with system bios of asus.
    You need to Upgrade charger to atleast 180 watt plus manage to cool vrms on 680m as they dont get covered by g73jh heatsink.
     
    jmhdj, Nov 12, 2013
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    Yeah you have to be pretty handy with DIY tools to modify the heatsink, you can "borrow" the vrm plates from other heatsinks as this means you get the right shape and contact levels.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 13, 2013
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    yoshey791, Aug 18, 2014
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    Nicely done :)
     
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    Hi jmhdj.
    Nice work you did. I've been following some other forums related to G73sw graphic card update. Is there any way I can get the vbios you used for the gtx680m? I'm willing to pay of course for the hard work.
    Thanks
     
    fabri1983, Oct 1, 2014
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    Yes I am willing to share in case you know what are you doing.
     
    jmhdj, Oct 1, 2014
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    I'm trying to get a gtx680m card. These are the specifications needed for vbios mod.

    CPCXD N13E-GTX-A2 Nvidia GeForce GTX 680m 2GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 VGA Video Card for Laptop
    Is for Dell laptops
    GPU: N13E-GTX-A2
    p/n is CPCXD
    Vram manufactured by Hynix

    Once I get the moded vbios I'll order the card.
    Since I only have free time on weekends, I'll try to give updates here every weekend once the elements are in my table.
    Hopefully this Asus g73sw will give fight other 4 years.
     
    fabri1983, Oct 15, 2014
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    just get a clevo 780m and flash it with the asus 780m vbios and it will work like a dream. i know this works 100,000%.. its what i did.
     
    yoshey791, Oct 17, 2014
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    The 780m is a nice boost if you are buying a new card anyway.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 17, 2014
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    fabri1983, Oct 17, 2014
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    Yes you would want 180w for the 780m or 680m really.
     
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    Only Clevo GTX 780m? What about the Dell one? Should Dell card need some extra adjustments in the vbios to work properly in asus g73sw?
     
    fabri1983, Oct 17, 2014
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    i myself have no experience with the 680m but i dont see why a dell would cause any issues .. i think jmhdj used a dell 680m if i remember correctly..
     
    yoshey791, Oct 18, 2014
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    hi fabri1983 yer i have had it for a while now with no problems runs smooth as :)
    i decided to upgrade my psu to a 230w just cause i got a unmissable deal on a hp 230w unit as for the plug i desolded the lead from the asus charger and solded it to 230w hp.
     
    yoshey791, Oct 18, 2014
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    That's the way to do it with the PSU, plenty of power now :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 18, 2014
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    What kind heatsink you use? I would think you would suffer even more from temperature throttling as 780m pulls more power then 680m.
     
    jmhdj, Oct 19, 2014
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    hay jmhdj
    i used this one:
    Clevo P170HM VGA Board Heatsink 60 DAY WARRANTY | eBay
    just remove the heat pipe and fit it around the g73jh heatsink temps can get up around high 80s under intence use. u could also use thermal glue to add a extra heat pipe ... or order a g751 heatsink for the 980m as it looks like a good fit.
     
    yoshey791, Oct 19, 2014
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    I think I am good for now. Maybe later try and do same mod like last time but use solder instead of thermal glue.
     
    jmhdj, Oct 19, 2014
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    yes solder is better but i thought if some1 is reading this & trys it but cant solder fast it will destroy the heat pipes & thay will overheat, expand & pop veryfast (i have done this to a brand new heat-sink before). so for anyone thinking of trying this if you cant solder fast just use thermal glue.
     
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    If your trying this I hope you know what you are doing! Certainly not a great first mod project.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 19, 2014
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    Hi jmhdj.

    I'm decided to go for the gtx680m. I'm interesting in getting the vbios mod of that card for asus g73sw.
    You already got my email.

    These are the specs of the card:

    CPCXD N13E-GTX-A2 Nvidia GeForce GTX 680m 2GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 VGA Video Card for Laptop
    Is for Dell laptop
    GPU: N13E-GTX-A2
    p/n is CPCXD
    2048MB Vram manufactured by Hynix.
    vbios version: 80.04.33.00.32

    I hope I can get my hands dirty with this upgrade.
     
    fabri1983, Oct 21, 2014
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    Hi guys i will try to upgrade my G73sw with a 780m but will the clevo Card fit?! The Asus GPU is not like mxm3.0b?
    If that works i can buy a cheap 780m Card from a friend that has a clevo P170EM.
    Now for the heatsink witch one i use?! The G73jh heatsink? P170hm heatsink or the G751 heatsink?

    Regards from Portugal.
     
    aconix, Dec 3, 2014
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    Hey and People Who upgrade to 680m and 780m could you please share some pictures? The 780m Users can you share your heatsinks modifications? And sorry for so many questions :)
     
    aconix, Dec 4, 2014
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    few question please:

    1. Could you please give details what exact modifications have you done to cooling system? So, u used heat pipe from Clevo P170HM Heatsink and fit it around the heatsink from G73JH? Any other option like using other heatsinks?

    2. Any idea if the asus version GTX780M from Asus G750jh can fit G73SW? I can buy the one, I hope it will not be necessary to flash the vbios with another one in this case, but I am not sure about the form factor.

    3. If you succed with Clevo GTX780, may be other VGAs like 870m, 970m & 980m for Clevo/MSI/Dell can be installed?
    What about these upgrade kits?
    Clevo P1XSMA P37XSMA VGA Upgrade Kit NVIDIA GTX 970M 6GB DDR5 MXM 3 0B 75W | eBay
    Clevo P15XSM P17XSM VGA Upgrade Kit NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M 6GB DDR5 MXM 3 0B | eBay
    Clevo P1XSMA P37XSMA VGA Upgrade Kit NVIDIA GTX 980M 8GB DDR5 MXM 3 0B 103W | eBay

    If they are all MXM 3.0b (is the original 460m also mxm 3.0b?) and same form factor, so any of these can fit? And these kits already include cooling - can these heatsinks be used in G73SW? I understand they might require modification as well.

    4. How to/ where can i get Asus vbios version for Clevo/Dell cards in case I buy Clevo/Dell vga?

    Guys, I will highly appreciate if you find the time to answer!!
    I wish to give my G73SW second life. I am also looking for the processor upgrade options instead 2630qm...
     
    AlexG73SW, Dec 5, 2014
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