G73jh GPU Question

Hello all,
I recently purchased a G73jh on eBay and just received it today. After reading a few threads about temps, I feel like my GPU may be a bit higher than it should be. Using GPU-Z it is sitting at around 68-70c idle and it reaches about 80c max while performing a FurMark benchmark. I am a little more concerned with the idle temp more than the load temp. Also, it seems like the fan speed never leaves 30%. Do you guys think this is something I should contact Asus about? Thanks for all your suggestions.

Edit: Ambient temp is around 23c

 

To save you the hassle of searching through countless threads, check all three sensors:
#1: Core
#2: Memory controller
#3: Shader

Those idle temps are hot but depending on your ambient temp (which is?) they might be normal.

As for running furmark, it's not the benchmark you want to run it's the stability test with Post FX and extreme burning enabled. You can run it at 1280x1024 with AA and still stress your GPU to 100%. Monitor your temps closely while running the stability test. If you don't go over 98 MemIO then you're fine. If you got unlucky like some of us and the thermal paste degraded you could hit over 100C in a matter of 10mins like me right now.

Just by saying that your fanspeed never left 30% i can tell you didn't push the GPU to it's limits long enough, it should register 100% after a while. The fan % indication is a bit broken in GPU-Z. You can download HWiNFO32, it will give you the same info as GPU-Z + CPU, HDD, fan RPM etc.

Here's the info on repasting by Chastity: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...titys-thoughts-repasting-read-here-first.html

 

HWINFO32 s very good for checking all 4 sections of the GPU and this will give you max and minimum temp readings so that you can furmark/game test and check your temps.

To be honest at a guess if your Diode is at 80oC you highest temp (MEM(/IO) most likely will only be in the low 90's which for the 5870m is perfectly normal. Your idle temps are quite high but so is your ambient temperature it might be an idea to clean out the fans using compressed air and do some serious testing before considering repasting.

 

FYI HWinfo always reports the fan speed @30%, it never changes.

 

I wouldn't worry much about idle temps, so much as load temps.

 

Yes you have to use the Fan RPM section in HWINFO to check the fan speed really annoying this is because I have tried every GPU gadget I can find and none can register the fan speed.

 

I closed the laptop while I went to the store and now the temps (according to HWiNFO32) are:

GPU Thermal Diode - 77c
GPU TS0 (DispIO) - 66.5c
GPU TS1 (MemIO) - 77.5c
GPU TS2 (Shader) - 69.5c

It's been running for a few hours now but aside from that 1 benchmark I ran, I haven't done anything that would use the GPU. I'll run a stability test in a few and post back the results. Thanks again for your help.

 

As mentioned those are slightly high idle temps mostly 55-65 is the norm without a repaste so your not far off and as you said you have a pretty high amb temp where you are meaning higher humidity and less cooling. You will see more from stress testing using Furmark that will show you if you need to take action.

 

I ran this test with 8xAA and it hit 100c in about 10 seconds. While I have built quite a few desktops, I am not sure I am comfortable taking a laptop apart to repaste, with that said is this an issue I can send it back to Asus to have fixed?

 

10 seconds nice work If it is within warranty yeah RMA it and get ASUS to repaste it for you, you may even get a new card as some people have.

The repasting is very overated as its very straightforward if you take your time and do your research prior to repasting there are plenty of videos and posts about how to do it and what to watch out for.

 

If it shuts down to prevent due to overheat, it's not a Best Buy version and the warranty is still valid, you'll have to check since you purchased it on eBay). then you can RMA to Asus to have them fix it. Otherwise, check this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...um/527654-newbs-guide-repasting-your-g73.html

That along with Chastity's thread i linked earlier and the disassembly video should give you all the info you need. If you feel confident about it then you can go for the repaste yourself. As long as you don't break anything you won't void the warranty.

 

I decided to repaste it and just stop if i got to a point where I thought I would break something. It took me about 2.5 hours and I am currently at about 10min on FurMark and only at 76c (was at 53c idle). So it looks like everything should be good, I'll let this run about an hour and post back with the results. Just out of curiosity... would a program similar to MSI Afterburner be something worth using on this laptop? I know that with my desktop's video card (GTX 470), it runs a whole lot hotter when the fan is left at stock speeds. Thanks again for all you guys' help, it is greatly appreciated.

Alright so while FurMark was running I plugged the battery in which increased the clock speed of the video card 400mhz, when I did that, the temp spiked to was before the repaste, the idle being about 5c lower than before. After applying thermal paste to numerous desktops and following the repasting guide, I feel I can confidently say that the paste is on correctly and that's not the problem anymore. Is there anything else you guys can think of that might be causing this issue?

 

I don't understand the problem ... you mean your temps are too high? If they hit 100 and sit there, that's fine. 105 is a bit high, but asus may or may not "fix" it - they might just claim that's a good temp.

 

Yes, I repasted the GPU and while it used to hit 100c in about 10sec, it's now hitting it in about a minute. Idle is still around 70c.

 

Use some canned air and blow out your fans. be sure the system is OFF, unplugged, battery out.

You might want to take that back "door" off to let the giant dust particles escape.

 

I blew the fans out when I repasted the GPU. I will do it again just to make sure. Also, I am including the before/after temps in case that is of any assistance.

Before:
GPU Thermal Diode - 77c
GPU TS0 (DispIO) - 66.5c
GPU TS1 (MemIO) - 77.5c
GPU TS2 (Shader) - 69.5c

After:
GPU Thermal Diode - 69.0c
GPU TS0 (DispIO) - 62.0c
GPU TS1 (MemIO) - 69.5c
GPU TS2 (Shader) - 62.5c

 

Those are still very high, they should be in the 50s. It doesn't make sense since you blew the fans out and repasted though.

 

That's what I was thinking. Just out of curiosity, could someone tell me the typical RPM of the GPU fan while idle and under load?

 

Good question, no one knows since there isn't a program that reads it properly.

 

My HWINFO32 gives me a reading of 3200RPM ish when its idling at 50oC and at full load (88oC - 92oc) it gives me a reading of 4500RPM.

 

HWInfo32 reads the EC registers for fan rpm.
For me:
Idle: 2600 or OFF
Load: max. 3700
BIOS 213

 

Idle 2800 (but it's running hotter than it should)
When the fan kicks in at high rev it's around 4300 to 4800 but like i said it's a lot hotter than when i bought it so the RPM will probably decrease when my MX-2 arrives and i repaste it.

EDIT: 4400 at max after repaste but much lower temps.

 

I ran the tests again today and this time when it reached about 98c, I heard the fan kick in and it pretty much stayed there for a good 3-5min. I am going to order some ICD7 to repaste with and see if that helps at all. I used AS5 which is probably about a year old so I'm hoping that is why I saw a temp decrease, just not as low as I had hoped.

 

I did an AS5 repaste and im running at 88-91oC max for 15 minutes so it does sound a little high. IC7 is the bee's.