G75 3D, worth it?

Let me start by saying I am in the market for a good gaming laptop, my top picks so far are Asus G75 3D & Alienware M17X R4 3D

I have never owned an Alienware or Asus laptops before and have no way of testing these models out in person as they dont exist here.

(I am not interested in clevo or sager as there is no resellers in my country and it would be a pain to ship them out side for service)

My question is to owners or people who tried it out (the G75 3D) is it worth it? how is the 3D on the matte screen? and how is the built quality?

I have to admit i dont know much about the quality of the Asus brand and what to expect so any info and advice would be much welcomed, I am interested in it as it would be A LOT cheaper than the M17X 3D (but m17x would have the 675M)

 

I am sure you are aware but 3D on a laptop is a gimmick and not really for gaming the only plus from having a 3D screen is for movies and the 120mhz screen gaming over a resolution of 1366x768 with the latest games on a mid range card will struggle.

The M17x R4 3D would handle itself better but you would be better off waiting for the 680M GTX as the 675M is the same as the 580M.

The 660M is going to be a good card however so unless you really need the 3D screen I would opt for a normal G55 or G75 personally both have their pro's and con's but newer technology drawing less power and producing less heat the 660M would beat the 675M in my opinion.

I am neutral as well I love my alienware as much as my clevo along with my ex-asus but I do not consider the larger AW to warrant the price, Clevo will win overall but then comes style and so the Asus with newer technology and very nice style beat the other two.

 

Thanks Yiddo however G75 3D comes with 670M not 660M the difference I have seen from the 670M to the 675M is about 10 FPS

Both very able however to play most recent games on ultra and even with 3D vision and losing 50% they still would run them at about 25 FPS on ultra or more if i go down from ultra to high.

3D gaming is really fun (I own a 3DS) and it really does add something to the game, when you team it up with something like virtual surround the experience is beautiful

I was thinking of waiting for the 680M but i heard it would be around 800$? cuz if it does then thats one upgrade i cant afford

 

Just for the record the 670M is not going to be much better than the 660M and certainly not by any margin that is worth getting 3D for, but if you really want 3D at 768P sure why not the screen after all is superb at 120mhz.

The only real upgrade is going to be the 680M which should be a tickle above the 7970M if rumours are right and if that is so it will be a monster and a half. The original benchmarks leaked do not show what it is going to actually do upon release.

Comparison between 660M and 570m relabeled. They will just give it higher clocks. But the new architecture means higher bandwidth.

Personally I would take the 660M over the 670M any day of the week even without the 3D screen.

 

really 660 over 670? other than heat and battery i dont understand why you would? according to notebookcheck.com when they ran games on them there was a good difference in FPS so I thought 660M even tho it is newer architecture is not worth it.

hmmm... I would sooooooo buy it tho if they make M11x R4 with 660M or 650M... I really wanted an M11x, but thought since they are not making it anymore (and clevo is not an option for me) i might as well go for a bigger laptop, and as long as i am going for a big laptop might as well get the 3D screen (part for 3D gaming and part to watch all those 3D movies i havent had the time to see in cinema, including Avatar hehe)

lol but back to the original topic how is Asus as laptop brand? and specifically how is the G75 3D laptop as a gaming laptop? I havent had any experience with them and cant find many people that talk about them as much as they do about Alienware laptops

 

I would not go on Notebookcheck they do not confirm what resolution or settings they use for gaming results along with the results being acquired from numerous different models and CPU's and then that does not include any overclocking as well so really the tests can vary a lot from what you will actually see.

I always go on 3Dmark and results that are clear and straight forward by using GPU-z and looking at the fillrates, bandwidth and shaders which is why I posted the above the 660M beats the 670M on bandwidth with a 64bit smaller bus, it only has slightly lower fillrates and due to the new architecture it will run a lot cooler, draw less power and the newer cores seem to overclock a whole lot better, do not forget the 670M is the same as the 570M with higher clocks meaning it may not overclock as high.#

The M11x is a great model but not for high end gaming RTS, Mass Effect and Skyrim its a win win but it struggles a bit on Battlefield 3, although amazingly the Witcher 2 runs like a pro haha. The new NP 11 inch clevo model looks good on paper but it runs very hot and draws the battery fast so it is not really ready yet.

 

I see, I wont pretend I know what difference does bandwidth do to gaming but i will take your word for it

Any idea how much would the 680m be on release (or when it will be released?)

 

It is very simple.

The memory bandwidth is the rate data is transferred from the GPU to the graphics memory.

The higher the memory bandwidth the better the graphics card will be able to retrieve data and textures from the graphics memory.

On high end cards like my 6990M moving from 128gb/s to 144gb/s by overclocking does not really make a difference for me in real life gaming terms, but with slower cards more bandwidth is much more important if you intend to game at 1080p.

This is only one of many factor's though the 670M will be faster yes but you need to decide if its worth the money considering the performance difference has barely changed from the 570M, wereas the performance change from the 560M to 660M is a lot bigger along with many other additional benefits.

Metro 2033

low: 117 fps
med.: 72.3 fps
high: 38.6 fps
ultra: 13.9 fps
M73-2N
Intel Core i7 2920XM 2.5GHz - Older arch / faster clocked CPU
GeForce GTX 670M (598MHz), 1536MB (1500MHz) GDDR5-VRAM, ForceWare 295.62 - Older arch / faster GPU
16384MB RAM

low: 109 fps
med.: 76 fps
high: 35 fps
ultra: 12FPS
G55VW-S1020V
Intel Core i7 3610QM 2.3GHz - Newer arch / slower clocked CPU
GeForce GTX 660M - New arch / slower GPU
8192MB RAM

 

Thanks for the info Yiddo , I wonder what owners of this laptop think of Asus and their service this far? never owned anything by Asus so I have no idea what to expect.

I am sooooo close to buying it just need a few more nudges lol

 

Asus products are normally pretty good it is when things go wrong that you have to worry because I have seen better customer service during an armed robbery.

You just have to hope it shows up in mint condition

 

lol well I just read that Alienwares warranty for international customers would have you ship it all the way back to the US


"Limited Product Warranty for International Customers and Disclaimer of Warranties. The standard warranty stated above in Section 6 applies to Alienware-branded products shipped to a country outside of the United States, provided that customers outside of the United States are responsible for paying all freight charges incurred in shipping, importing/exporting, receiving replacement products and parts and for arranging and paying for the shipment of any defective part(s) back to Alienware. All international customers are responsible for all customs duties, VAT and other associated taxes and charges. THE WARRANTY DISCLAIMER ABOVE IN SECTION 6 ALSO APPLIES TO INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMERS."

So I would take crappy service over 300 dollars shipping there and 300 shipping back

I am buying through xoticpc.com and they said they would fully check the laptop before they ship it out so that is very comforting for me

 

Why would you buy Alienware from the US? I bought mine in the UK and have a 3 year warranty in the UK?

Not that I actually needed to send it away anyway, when my keyboard broke they put one in the post to me overnight delivery and let me fit it myself free of charge that is what you call a warranty.

 

cuz Dells dealer over here is a HUGE thief ...it costs almost twice as much (not kidding!) AND they are the very old models (like the m17x is the r2 meanwhile the r4 is already out)

lol so yeah... thats why i would buy it from the US I really wish I could buy a laptop locally and get done with but the Asus G75 isnt out yet, and the Alienware has prices that makes your head spin