G750JM vs. G750JZ

Hello guys, I am looking to buy a gaming laptop and the final decision will be made between these 2.

In my country the price difference for these 2 is 350euros. So it's quite big I would say.
My main concern is the acoustics and temperature, and ofcourse the performance.
I assume that both laptops have the same cooling system so I assume that JZ runs more hotter and louder.
I have also read that the 860M Maxwell is quite a beast and overclocking it can easily achieve 870M performance levels.

Is the performance chart at the bottom of this page accurate? Review Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M Maxwell vs. Kepler - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
880M is 50% faster then 860M Maxwell?


I want a system that will last me for a while (2years I hope) considering the fact that in the future I would not mind lowering the resolution or game details if needed. I would gladly pay for the JZ if the thermals and acoustics are good when compared to an overclocked 860M Maxwell.


Later edit:

I am also considering an alternative in the same price range but preferably with a smaller display. Only main requirement is to have comparable thermals and acoustics to the G750. Thank you.

 

after owning 4 ASUS laptops...I would never buy an ASUS laptop again...but if you had to choose between the above 2 the JZ no question

Never had an Alienware before because of its high price. I had 3 ASUS Gaming laptops, G73Sw, G75VW, and G750JX

After being frustrated with ASUS's bad driver support, and lack of official drivers for Windows 7, I sold my G750JX and got this Alienware.

Now I know why they cost an arm and a leg

1) much better build quality, it's like you bought a Mercedes as opposed to a honda civic

2) Warranty is much better, if the laptop spoils, they will come to your house and fix it at your home the next business day. When my G750JX stopped booting within 6 months of owning it, I had to drive to the service center which is very far, and it took them 7 days to replace the motherboard

3) I wanted a bigger screen and ASUS only have 17.3' screens. This 18.4' screen is a dream to play and surf on

4) I didn't ask for it, but I got a freebie dual GeForce GTX 770M so my performance has never been better

5) I love the lighting effects of Alienware

6) Their audio and KLIPSCH speakers blow the ASUS G750JX out of the water in terms of loudness and quality although both use a Realtek Chipset, but the speakrs are better and the Alienware comes with the Dolby Home Theater which improves the audio quality by a great mile

7) All ASUS laptops has a problem with the left USB 3.0 Ports. You plug in a USB 3.0 HDD to the left top or left bottom ports and it will randomly keep disconnecting. That is for all G750 series, JX,JW,JH,JZ,JavaScript, you name it. don't believe me, just hang around on the ROG forums and see the jokes of problems they have. pathetic for the amount of money you pay. problems with screens,m auto dimming problem, contrast problem.

I wouldn't use an ASUS laptop anymore even if they gave it to me for free! cheap Taiwanese crap!

Did I forget to mention...

their implementation of Optimus is messed up...it is very tricky to force games to use your nVIDIA GPU unless you do a lot of settings and even then users on their forums complain that the freakin' games are using the Intel HD Graphics! LOL! horrible!

with Alienware, there are no such mishaps...you press FN + F5 and the laptop reboots activating the nVIDIA GPUs and it's stuck like that until you press FN + F5. no room for error of a gaming even seeing your Intel HD Graphics!

you want Testimony Mr. Fox? Please take the time to read this:

why ASUS? because people who buy ASUS cannot afford Alienware, no other reason on earth...that's a fact...I am one of them...

First laptop, 2 years ago..

G73Sw:

bought it and ran home like a little child wanting to see my lights in the chiclet keyboards....ooops...no lights...tried all driver updates..BIOS update...nope..

Called ASUS, they told me to bring it to the service center it's an easy fix!! whaaaat?? I buy a 2000 USD laptop and go to the service center next day? oh well..I did and they activated it with their BIOS tweak utility that they don't give to customers! great quality control Taiwanese Engineers! send out laptops for sale that don't work properly as advertised...

after 1 week...the screen started giving me fuzzy images...closing/opening the screen lid fixed the problem....wow!! what did I buy? a 1990 Toyotal Corolla or a brand new gaming laptop??

They said they need to replace my screen! wow!! the laptop can't last a week without being repaired! i fought for a refund and got it after a long hassle...

next laptop...

ASUS G75VW,

ASUS decided to remove their awesome creative sound blaster audio chipset and put some cheap VIA audio chipset which made the subwoofer act like a center speaker rather than a subwoofer..

also..I only had the option to get the matte screen...oh well...people say matte is good...right? NOPE! not on ASUS! the ASUS matte screens look as if someone spilled grease all over them. very grainy image especially if you look at a white screen such as these forums or Google..if you look close..you can see the pixels of colorful rainbows! again shocked in awe for this cheap crap!

So I called ASUS complaining about the quality of the screen, they offered to change it to the 3D screen not coz I want 3D, but only because that is the only screen they have that is Glossy..

took the laptop...2 days..I get a call...sorry sir, we changed your screen, but fried your motherboard....we have no spare motherboards...so if you pay $500 USD we can give you a G750JX instead or you can wait till god knows when till we get a motherboard from Taiwan...

so I got the G750JX...

very bad driver support....ASUS released the win 8.1 drivers after 6 months of win 8.1 was released...anyone who upgraded while having the old drivers either got a non booting laptop after the upgrade due to outdated bluetooth/wifi drivers or had horrible problems....

next comes the 2D performance of their GTX770M....there is something not right about it! 3D was fine and performed as it should...but 2D was glitchy and choppy...imagine even a simple game of solitaire..the motion of the cards wasn't fluid...I used to get jealouse when I see my friends' Intel HD Graphics perform so smoothly in the Windows environment while my brand new gaming laptop cries in 2D...opening tabs in firefox...wow..another plethora of jerkiness / slow motion

next...they put cheap Atheros WLAN chipsets which cannot connect above 72 MBPS!! wow! had to pay 50 USD and get a Bigfoot Wireless N-Killer from the US and pay customs just to have a laptop perfrorm like a normal computer

next.... USB 3.0 problems..

basically, I had to connect my USB drives to the right ports and the left ones were kept for my mouse and printer? why? because ASUS cannot produce a piece of hardware that functions right! they claim all ports are USB 3.0 and they are all in blue color...BIG LIE! it wasn't only me, I posted this on the ROG forums and every single one of the members verified the same!

I can't find my thread that I started, but here are 2 examples I quickly grabbed:

Asus G750 USB 3.0 Ports not working with some things

and

Is it normal that the top left USB port is very slow?

ASUS? HELLL NO!!

Worst case scenario, save some money and wait, then get a real gaming laptop from Alienware and be happy for life! rather than bite your fingers after you buy your ASUS

 

Sorry, I cannot afford Alienware and I am not willing to pay that much for it anyway.

I think that G750 have the best thermal and acoustics performance (except Alienware probably), which is an important factor for me.

 

no issues, and I understand. For years, I didn't wanna pay double the price for an Alienware when I can get them in an ASUS laptop for almost half the price....until I finally realized, I am spending more time repairing/formatting/dealing with quirks with the ASUS laptops than I am having fun with my laptop.

good luck to you and hope your games don't choose to run on the Intel HD Graphics ignoring the setting that you chose in the nVIDIA Control panel to only choose the GeForce globally.

and be prepared to find some loose hinges especially from the bottom edges of the screen. ASUS has terrible quality control.

just before you purchase, visit this forum, read all the issues, and ask yourself....do you want to be one of the crowd??

G750 and G56 Gaming Notebooks

those topics in that forum are simply scary I would never buy a product from ASUS anymore

just my 2 cents bro good luck with whatever you choose

 

I couldn't afford it myself so I got a 2nd hand one.. had 6 months use and threw a 3940xm and 240GB SSD in... Its blazing fast now ... Just make sure there is some warranty on it.

 

What about JM vs. J.S?
Where I live, the price difference is quite low (~80 Euros).
As far as I know JZ has a different chasis, has a better cooling system but JM and J.S share the same chassis, and here is the questionable part
Same chasis, same cooling, JM has 45W TDP GPU that is very overclockable while J.S has 100W TDP GPU that probably won't overclock too well.

 

Alienware all the way. That said, believe it or not, next to MSI, ASUS ROG laptops are a lot better xD

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BTW, I had a G73JH and it was a nightmare.. Asus driver support and in the UK, there was no chance of any proper warranty repair.. Alienware has NBD warranty repair etc. Just don't get Asus...

 

Read it... Mercy me, sounds more like nobody can afford to settle on an Asus. Another terrible story. It's a shame they don't make laptops like their desktop motherboards. Then they would be top notch.

 

The asus machines are very quiet and don't tend to have CPU power limit issues

 

Too bad their CPU and GPU happen to be non-upgradeable.

That pretty much died with the G73JH, the last ASUS I had. And yeah that thing was horrible. Sure, great specs and performance for its time and very competitively priced, but man, so many issues. If it wasn't the completely unusable touchpad it was the GPU overheating or GSODing requiring vBIOS update or the impossibly difficult disassembly process. So glad I got rid of that thing.

 

yes very quiet but don't work. LOL

 

Ohhh yes! that reminds me, their touchpads are horrible, simply horrible and unusable! very slow motion and not precise. that's on all ASUS Gaming laptops that i've owned

 

My G73JH touchpad would simply fail to register input 90% of the time, and the other 10% it would spaz in-and-out or mistake single-finger swipes as pinch-to-zoom. Talk about being worthless.

 

My G750JX touchpad was the opposite, it was too sensitive, like when I am typing, suddenly the mouse would move to other places causing me to create mistakes. Horrible! Those Taiwanese can never produce a quality product! you get what you pay for

 

LOL @ that blanket statement considering how 99% of the stuff in this forum is made in Taiwan or China.

Poor palm rejection is usually a software shortcoming not a hardware fail like what my G73JH touchpad was.

 

Well I went ahead and bought the G750JZ.
It's too soon to tell but the touchpad seems to work fine with the Windows 8.1 driver. Besides I plan to use a mouse and I will probably disable it.

I don't mind the fact that it is not upgradeable, with these specs I reckon it will please me for atleast 2 years, atleast for the games and quality settings I play on. Atm I have a desktop with i5 [email protected] and a 560Ti and I can play all the games I want to on high-medium specs at 1680x1050(my max. monitor resolution).

I noticed a little bleeding on the display, but again, I use an old 22" Samsung monitor that I doubt is better

Things that matter to me most are temperatures and good acoustics, and I think that Asus did a good job there (I have not tested yet).

 

I own a G750JH and have zero issues.. Complaining about the touchpad on a gaming laptop is a waste of time, they are all garbage.. You're probably using a mouse with your laptop anyways so whats the point using a touchpad on a 11 lb laptop? I have never experienced a good touchpad on a Windows laptop, period. Only Apple's so far have impressed me with their touchpads (amazing stuff actually).

If I didn't get a insane deal on my JH (780m) I would have kept my JM (860m). I think the JM is a crazy good deal for what you get, even if you can't upgrade the CPU/GPU. It runs very cold and overclocks well. My 780M on the other hand is being held back by the power supply (230watt) but it holds 1080mhz core stable just gets pretty hot.

 

There's a huge difference between a middling touchpad and one that simply doesn't work, period, which is what the G73JH had. Basically every G73JH had a non-functional touchpad; it was a design flaw and if you ever owned one back in the day you'd know that. Saying use a mouse or whatever is not an excuse for a broken product. The touchpad is one of the fundamental input devices on a laptop and it's inexcusable because it defeats the whole purpose of actually using it as a laptop on your lap since you always have to have a mouse. I could never use the machine at school because it was so big and I never had room for a mousepad.

How would you feel if yours had broken speakers and I said "screw it just use headphones?"

I've used a G750 at a Best Buy. Trust me, you have no idea how how bad the G73JH was...

 

ROFL!

Pure class!

 

This is my fault, I read the G73JH as G750JH. My entire post is pointless in this case. I have zero experience with the G73 touchpad.. I just know that the G75 touchpad isn't too bad.. it's usable but as usual, if you're gaming, you're not touching your trackpad (unless you're playing Plants vs Zombies or something that requires less reaction)

 

the G750 series touchpad is VERY sensitive if you don't disable it while gaming or typing it will drive you nuts with the cursor accidentally moving here and there! crappy Taiwanese product

 

If you say so, but the auto disable is a useful tool. I love having my touchpads sensitive.

 

I still can't believe they put tape under the touchpad. TAPE.

What the hell were they smoking?

 

I don't know about you guys but I've had my ASUS G73JH since it's release and I'm still using it right now to type these words. Sure I had to repaste and put it the vBIOS but this laptop gave me my money's worth all the way. It can still run the new games that come out, albeit not in maximum settings anymore but still worth every penny. I'm also looking into buying a new laptop since I want the 880M for faster performance, so I'm also looking at the ASUS G750JZ and MSI GT70 Dominator Pro.

 

Cheap Chinese knockoff weed or Oriental mushrooms probably.

The tape wasn't even the worse of it, it was that freakin' aluminum foil sticker. What a mess.

Oh yeah, did the touchpad mod that was mentioned on here, didn't help at all, if anything made it worse, if that were even possible. So glad it's someone else's problem now LOL.

 

Most touchpads are attached with glue/double sided tape.

 

Not mine.

10char

 

I am also thinking about choosing between jm,js and jz.
Jm is 1136.- euros (1 544 U.S dollars)
js 1289.- (1 752)
jz 1375.- (1 869)

Any ideas which one to choose or go with the cheapest, and take advantage of maxwell and clock it a little it needed

 

Well I went ahead and bought the JZ but it is in service atm for thermal paste replacement
I was getting kinda high temps 86 degrees C on CPU and 93 degrees C on GPU while running Prime95(In-place Large FTTs) + Furmark. When I was gaming I had like 82-83 on CPU and 85-86 on GPU.

And while the load temps might look acceptable to most, the reason I was upset was the temps/fan behavior on low stress actvities. While I was browsing or doing office stuff, the CPU was reaching 55 degrees and the CPU fan started to spin faster, which is extremely annoying in a hi-end laptop with this kind of cooling system. Not to mention that I was running Balanced Power Plan, so the CPU wasn't at full speed.

Funny thing tho, because I had chosen JZ especially for it's better cooling system compared to JM and J.S. I know 880M requires better cooling, but the CPU is the same, so I expected great temps on CPU.

On the positive side, Asus offered me(and insisted a bit) to return the product as DOA, but I refused and insisted they do a repaste, because there is no guarantee that a new laptop has better applied thermal paste. I even sent them some Arctic MX4 to be sure a good paste is used

 

How do you know that JZ has different cooling actually? Maybe CPU cooling is the same and GPU cooling is different. I am also worried about the heat little bit, Maxwell would run cooler for sure but it is not as powerful as 880M. Let us know if repasting helped (y)

 

Asus posted pictures, the 880m at least uses an all copper heatsink.

asus machines have some of the best temps out there on the mobile side.