G75VW from ASUS G73JH

Hey guys, I bought my G73JH-BST7, and flashed it and everything and kept it up to date as of a year ago when I got it for $600. I recently found an offer for a G75VW for $800.

Now here is the question. Should I sell my G73jh FOR $500, and buy the G75VW for $800?

I have not even researched or looked at the G75VW a lot. Do you have to update the flash as well, is there a lot of problems on the G75VW, are there any down falls or any sort? Not sure if I should just stick to my G73JH, because it is perfectly fine, but going to the G75VW does seem like a nice upgrade for only another $300.

I just wanted to some quick advice from you guys, it would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

Anyone help out? Please haha, I am going to check out this laptop tomorrow, and I don't know if I should do it or not.

 

Do you consider a upgrade to one 7970m?



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What do you mean an upgrade to a 7970M, does that mean I take at the GPU on my current laptop and switch them?

 

What are the specs on the G73JH-BST7? Screen/processor/GPU

 

The Processor: i7 Q740 1.73Ghz Quad Core
Screen: Stock whatever came with it.
GPU: ATI Radeon 5870M

It's in my signature

 

FWIW, the speakers on the G75 sound like sh*t through a tin horn, if that matters.

 

Yes! My g73 now have a 7970 but if you don't like to mod your computer it is not for you!
You can read here on NBR how to do it


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Yeah, I am not a huge fan of modding the computer, and I think it is too risky the card is expensive too.

Does anyone have any final suggestions, I think I am going to do it. I am meeting the person today at 5:30

 

Whoops! I meant what are the specs on the G75! Not the G73, I have the GH73 :thumbsup:

Edit: $500 for a G73 is pretty darn low. You should ask for more and take no less than $675-700...even if you paid $600 for it, you can get more than $500

 

The seller does not know the model of the G75, and I am selling it to a friend. All the seller said was it was a GM model G75 which makes no sense, so I am going to check it today. But regardless for the model $800 for a G75 is dirt cheap too isn't it?

 

Ah I see. $800 is ok I guess...I mean that's only $400-500 less than buying it new. Dependent on the GPU, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it will be from the G73 and it's 5870M. If it's a 6 series GTX Nvidia card (670M/MX) in the G75 (which it probably is) then someone correct em if I'm wrong but it's not a huge increase in performance over a 5870M. Just saying it may not be that big of an upgrade

Edit: You have a JH G73 model (as do I) and the JH models can be upgradable to even a 7970M! Fabricating is needed to the heatsink but it's doable. I don't think you can upgrade the GPU in a G75 due to Asus switching up some things.

Quote off this forum regarding upgrading the GPU:
"It's a chance for the G73JH. With the G75 you would need a selfmade heatsink and there is still the question of enough space for stock MXM3.0b cards"

 

I see I use this website to compare graphics cards, it is better.

I am afraid of anything going wrong if upgrading a g73jh to a 7970M. I don't believe it's an easy process. But what do you suggest?

I use this site to compare GPU's PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - High End Video Cards

It is an upgrade, but I'm only paying the extra $250 for the upgrade, which isn't too bad I guess.

 

Also is the G75 known to be buggy or anything or like BSOD? The vertical lines on the screen or anything? I know that was an issue for the G73JH

 

This link/site is for Desktop GPU's not Mobility. Use this site. Desktop and Laptop (mobility) cards are completely different!

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - NotebookCheck.net Tech

The 7970M upgrade in the G73 JH is indeed a "not-easy" process. I may however end up trying it out though (given I can find a decently priced 7970M or 680M)

You really need to find out the specs (primarily the GPU) in the G75 before I can give my opinion on whether or not it's worth it

 

What spec does the GPU have to be to be worth it? The G75 comes with specifically only 3 types of GPU's I believe.

 

Right...with I think the 670MX being the highest they offer?...which to me is not a big enough upgrade from a 5870.

I'd wait for the G750 (780M) or upgrade your G73 to a 7970M or 680M. That's just me though.

 

I got the 660M on the G75 I ended up bargaining the price down to $700. I hope this was worth it rather than installing the 7970M

 

I think that was a great deal. You upgraded from a 1st gen to 3rd gen i7. The chipset alone will be a nice upgrade (sata 3, usb 3) and take full advantage of your ssd. CPU should be marginally better for battery life, better temps. Nice find.

 

Thanks Gio, I am using it currently right now. Do you think it is ok to take the SSD from the G73JH and put it on my G75? I did it already everything seems to be running fine,like all the drivers from the ati Radeon 5870M are on the SSD, but this laptop has the 660M. Or should I do an entire clean wipe on the SSD that was on the g73 then put it on my G75. I don't want to go through all of that downloading again for software and updates. SATA 3 port is so so so fast with the SSD boot time is 11 seconds!

 

Personally I would update your Intel Chipset drivers, reboot into safe mode, uninstall all the hardware that you are able to from the Device Manager minus the pointing device, keyboard, acpi. Reboot again into Windows normally so that it can redetect your new hardware, remove the AMD catalyst and drivers if you haven't already, install the latest Nvidia beta drivers, and run a Ccleaner sweep of the registry to make sure things are all proper. For peace of mind make a System Restore point prior to doing anything just in case you want to roll back. A clean install is always the recommended and preferred method but for a lazy way without redoing everything I would do what I mentioned above.

 

Nice. You doubled CPU performance by going from the i7-740QM to the i7-3630QM but your gaming performance actually went down because the GTX 660M and Mobility 5870 are about equal in graphics performance but the 660M in the G75 has to work a lot harder to render at 1080p compared to the G73Jh at 900p.

 

Do we know that his G75VW has a 1080p display? Not all models of G75VW have them.

 

Sounds good thanks Gio.


O jeez octiceps I did some research on the graphic cards, it shows that the benchmark of the 660M is better. Also the way you say it makes me regret buying this laptop now LOL.

Also how do I check if its 1080p pretty sure it is though.

 

Pretty sure all G75 models have it, even the older (pre-GTX 670MX refresh) Best Buy models that carry the GTX 660M. It was either with the G75 or the G74 that all machines come with the 1080p screen standard, even the cheaper Best Buy models, which wasn't the case with the G73.

You can check it by right-clicking on the desktop and selecting screen resolution. The highest one listed will your panel's native resolution. It should be 1920x1080.

Benchmarks don't give you a complete picture and could possibly inflate small performance differences or favor certain brands or architectures. Real world testing in the games and applications YOU use are most accurate. I used to own the exact same machine you had, the G73Jh-BST7, before I bought the Lenovo IdeaPad Y500 in my signature. When I disable SLI and downclock a single GT 650M to match the GTX 660M stock speed, it is about 20% faster than the Mobility 5870, but that is not enough to compensate for the 40% increase in pixels going from 1600x900 to 1920x1080, so my in-game benchmarks are lower than what they were on the G73.

Not to say you got a bad deal on the G75, because you didn't, but just something to keep in mind that you may not actually see any noticeable improvement in gaming performance.

 

Does that mean if I go down in resolution, my gaming performance may be better then?

 

No, they don't. MOST of the many models of G75 have a 1080p display, but not all. A couple are only 1600x900. The only reason I know this is because I did a bunch of research before getting my G75 on May 1st.
(Unfortunately, I didn't realize that my model doesn't come with bluetooth capability)

 

Of course. But it will look very blurry. I never run non-native resolutions because of the big loss in image quality due to interpolation. I would rather sacrifice graphics settings if I need more FPS.

I stand corrected then.

 

Sounds like you made a good choice. I went from my G73 to my current G46 with a 660gtx and 3rd gen i7 and its a pretty good bump in performance. I think you'll be quite happy with it. As others have said, Ivy Bridge is a nice improvement.

As far as swapping in the ssd, a clean install will obviously be better, but if you clean off the old drivers and update to the new G75 drivers it should work.

Enjoy your new machine!

 

Thanks, guys. The thing now is I want to put Windows 8 on my G73JH and keep Windows 7 on my G75. Is there any way to find the product key for windows 8? I heard the product key is embedded in the UEFI and BIOS on my G75, but what if I want to transfer Windows 8 to my G73JH

 

You can't if it's the OEM copy that comes preinstalled on the G75. That's tied to the machine and will only a activate with the key stored in that machine's BIOS. You can't find the key because it's encrypted. If you want Windows 8 on the G73 you'll have to buy an Upgrade or System Builder's copy. OEM licenses of Windows have always been non-transferable.

 

I downloaded a program, and I found the Win8 product key on the new G75VW laptop. I am currently using the old SSD in my G73JH and currently running Win7 on the G75VW. Can't I just use the Win8 product key I found on the G75 and use it for the G73JH?

Dang why does Win8 have to be so complicated.

 

No because the key you found using that keyfinder program is a factory key used by the OEM to do a mass install and doesn't match the one in BIOS/OA 3.0. Activation changed as of Windows 8 so now instead of OEM's putting the key on a sticker on the bottom of the laptop it's stored in the BIOS and when you reinstall Windows 8 it will pull that key automatically instead of asking you to enter one.

Microsoft did this to prevent piracy and breaching of licensing terms since now the preinstalled copy of Windows 8 is literally tied to the system it originally came on. You won't be able to transfer an OEM copy of Windows 8 to a different machine like you are currently doing with the Windows 7 from the G73, which is technically illegal anyways since OEM licenses of Windows have never had transfer rights.

 

Ok since I cannot get the Win8 on another computer. Is there a way I can re install Win8 on the brand new SSD on my G75VW? There is no software discs or anything. I need to wipe my SSD and install Win8 OS on it again. How would I go about doing that?

 

You need to get ahold of Windows 8 installation media from somewhere where it's free. Family, friends, acquaintances. Subscription services such as MSDN, TechNet, or DreamSpark. Or plug in a retail Windows 8 Pro key into the Upgrade Assistant to download an ISO.

 

Ok I'll get on that then. I found someone with a copy of Win8 Professional. Is that ok, because I am not sure what the G75VW came with originally. Was it the Win8 Pro or normal Win8?

 

That's fine. I'm pretty sure the G75 comes with Windows 8 Core but the Windows 8 DVD comes with both editions unlike Windows 7 and previous. It's your product key that determines which version gets installed.

 

Do you guys have any suggestions on what I should stick with on the G75?I cannot decide between Win 8 or Win 7 I can get either one for free, from my University campus, but I don't know which one. I have on experience in Win 8, and I have used Win 7 all my time, so I am not sure.

I looked online seems like Win 8 is a bit faster, but Win 7 is better for gaming performance, slightly, very small. Any sugge

 

Bump any suggestions!?

 

You've already used both so just pick whichever one you like better.

 

I'd go 8 without a doubt especially if it's free... it is much snappier feeling on all the machines I've compared and boots way faster. Games play just as well. The only "gripe" is the metro interface, but that's easy to ignore if you don't like it. I have actually grown to enjoy a few of the apps for quick stuff.

Give it a few days of use and you'll get the hang of the interface differences... not sure why they chose some of the descisions they did interface wise, but under the hood I feel it's a better OS.