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    GL502VS 120hz Screen Seems Blurry

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by prinzhernan, May 9, 2017.

  1. prinzhernan

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    Hi guys! I got this laptop just today and I'm pretty happy with it except for the fact that the screen seems a bit less sharp, well not less sharp, a tiny bit cloudy to the screen I have on my MSI GS63VR. Everything really seems on point though specially the colorspace and contrast. It just really looks "different" than what I'm used to? Are 120hz screens really like this? Thanks!
     
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    Shouldn't be, it's possible you are feeling the response times? They are quite poor and well over a frame. Like 4-5 I think.

    Is it blurry if nothing is moving?

    Asus has a weird panel in that model, everyone else is using TN 120Hz in 15" machines.
     
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    Oh I see. Maybe it's that. But the longer I stare at it, the clearer it becomes? I'm not sure if that makes sense. What do you mean by a weird panel?


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    It's an AHVA 120Hz panel. That's fairly odd. (Normally TN, IPS, and even PLS are more common choices) No one else is using it afaik, and we can't find the full specs of it anywhere. @Donald@HIDevolution was graciously helping me try and get to the bottom of it, but the most we could find was that it's a pretty poor response time that's about it. Panelook doesn't have a page on it.

    It could also just maybe have a poor matte coating? Not sure.
     
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    Oh cool, I didn't know. It's my first non-ips screen I guess. That's it, it's the matte coating! I'm not used to looking at screens with matte coating so that's why it seems a tiny bit blurry. Thanks!


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    It is the AUO AHVA B156HAN04.3 matte panel. 120Hz~25ms. AUO AHVA, LG IPS and Samsung PLS use very similar technology, with very similar results, but of course different Trademarks. Most are 60Hz~25ms.

    The AUO AHVA B156HAN04.3 is the only IPS-level 120Hz~25ms screen about which I am aware.

    Only the new, and vastly improved, 120Hz TN screens can achieve the theoretical 5ms response time, which makes them the best for gaming.
     
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    So if this is 25ms what advantage does it have over the IPS 60hz panels which have slightly better color rep? Sorry kinda new to screens other than 60hz.


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    Just the Hz and viewing angles.

    Probably colors too.
     
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    Do I understand it right that the 120hz refresh rate is wasted because it only has a 25ms response time? So it's just like the regular 60hz 25ms screens?
     
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    No no, it still works, it means there's kind of like a lag effect going on. It'll look smoother, but possibly blurrier.
     
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    Oh, all right. Thanks! :)
     
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    120Hz Refresh Rate and 25ms Response Time are two different things. Your refresh rate is what keeps up with your FPS, so 120Hz is much better than 60Hz. The response time is how long it takes for your keyboard command and color changes to react on the screen. An IPS screen will give you slightly better viewing angles and more accurate colors than a TN screen, and will work in direct sunlight where a TN screen will tend to wash out.
     
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    Now I understand clearly. Been trying to read through online articles but this sums it up pretty well thanks!


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