How to OC GTX 460M?

Well I gonna try it, first time and I very worry about it...because every game that I play, I get 85C MAX!(on stock) so I am afraid...

Should I do that?

***I use MSI AfterBurner, so its like Nvidia system tools, so I have to choose this or this***

Here what I gonna do:
1.Download GPU-Z.
2.Download MSI afterburner.
3.Install MSI afterburnet + MSI kombustor.
4.Open MSI Afterburner and change the "Speed Fan" to 70% and click apply.
5.1.Raise the Core Clock by 10MHz.
5.2.Raise the Memory Clock by 10MHz.
6.After that click apply.
7.Open GPU-Z on the Sensors tag.
8.Open MSI kombustor and test the new OC for at least 20 Minutes.
9.After that, if there is no BDOS or White dots, Colourful dots, and strange things(After 20Minutes) AND I didn't passed the GPU's limit heat(With GPU-Z to check the maximum temps),

you can continue and repeat:
5.1.Raise the Core Clock by 10MHz.
5.2.Raise the Memory Clock by 10MHz.
6.After that click apply.
7.Open MSI kombustor and test the new OC for at least 20 Minutes.
8.When I get BDOS or White dots, Colourful dots, and strange things, stop raising the MHz, and start to decrease the MHz back to the previous step. Here I will know that I have to stop.

Well? what do you think?

BY THE WAY, SOMEONE CAN TELL ME WHAT THE Maximum GPU'S Temperature that it can hadle?(in C)

 

Pretty much yup ^^

Your GPU is rated to about 110oC and thermal shutdown should really kick in by then however it could go higher but death will be around the corner.

The unwritten rule is to try and keep it below 100oC for a GPU 90oC for a CPU to be on the safe side.

 

What can I do to make it "cooler"? pad cooling? cleaning? IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU?

 

MSI Kombustor as well as Furmark doesnt work anymore with Nvidia fermi-based cards, FYI.
The fermi tech has a power limiter which basically keeps the power under control, cutting it when needed. Youll observe only insane temps, but not stability.

A real world stability is while gaming or benchmarking. Lets say, do your overclock, apply it, then game for at least 15 minutes with a game such Crysis 2, or do a benchmark such 3dMark11.
If the driver crashes, then youre NOT stable.
If you can play for more than 15 minutes or do a FULL 3dmark11 run or FULL heaven benchmark run then YOU'RE stable.

Also 10mhz increment is stupid theory, lets drop this right nao. You can do increments with 50mhz each time, or if you feel comfortable, with 100mhz increase.

Just note that NOT ALL gtx460m can reach 1600 on memory.
I would advice to start with 1500mhz on memory, then slighly raise your core clock starting from default speed (675) until you get unstable.

From there, either lower your core clock to 50mhz less, or try 25mhz decreases.
If youre fine with your OC, then try to raise the memory clock, again with 50mhz each step. Set your limit at 1600.

Also beside MSI Afterburner you may want to use the lightweight Nvidia Inspector. It makes you able to go above 1500 memory barrier by using Unlock Max button located in the top right corner of the app.

Keep your temperatures under control. Let say that along ure under 85c ull be fine.

Dont forget that ThrottleStop is VITAL to your g53SW because of the bugged bios. Otherwise your CPU will keep downthrottling each 25 seconds.

Also TS is needed when overclocking to find the best stability. If you OC with your CPU throttling then you will never know what kind of stable OC you can reach.

You seem to forgot TS too much, i hope you learned to have it open ALWAYS.

85c on stock clocks which are uber-low (675-1250 iirc) is insane. Something is not right. Ive been saying this since you got the laptop for the first time, that its not working as it should.
I also adviced to RMA it.
Your temps are TOO MUCH high for a stock clock. You should have 70c max under load with stock clocks. 85c is good with overvolted vbios and 850 core clock.
Have you used an air compressor to clean the laptop?

 

I will still gona try on it, PLUS TS as you said (open it and turn on, right?)
How should I clean the laptop? can you give me an advice?

I will try now 25MHz steps.

(GTA IV is good enough? max)

 

Is that a G53 or G73 if that is a G53 then that is the same as what everyone else see's with a G53 because the cooling is not as good as the G73 because of its size, if it is a G73 then that is slightly high however still below 90oC so its not something worth worrying about.

Try cleaning out the vents with compressed air.

 

stock clocks I get 85 and with overclock -- 750 core, 1600 shader, 1400 memory I get the same temps

so youll be fine, those are normal temps.

 

So every step, I raise the "Core Clock" and Memory Clock" 25MHz?

like this?


WITH OC:
(GTA IV)
700
1400
1275

30 fps
------------
725
1450
1300

31.5 fps
------------

 

Yep, but your memory clock is too much slower for that clock speed.
Push it up to 1450 at least.

 

ok, I'm testing it right now with 800 / 1600 / 1550, enough memory clock?

 

Nope, you should be fine. The ideal should be 800/1600/1600, at least the standard max oc on stock vbios.
See how it does.

 

ok worked, what now?

(I don't get it, on stock settings, I reach 85C, and with 800/1600/1600 I get 80C...)

by the way, the CPU max temps are 80C~81C. is that ok?

 

yeah youre cpu is fine and thats weird you lowered your temps while overclocking?

run it a few more times and verify it lol

 

ok passed it, trying now 830 / 1660 / 1625 (15MHz jumps)

(with MSI afterburner I can't pass 1625...)
PICTURE!

 

That's fine, IMHO don't push it further, that's a pretty high oc.
For now, use these settings for a few days.
If it happens to crash, lower the clocks back to 800/1600/1600.

 

Ok, I found it... can't pass the 815 / 1630 / 1625. How do I know if its stable?
Here the results:

GTA IV (ALL MAX FHD)
before: 15 FPS
After: 35.7 FPS!!!

Assassin's Creed (ALL MAX FHD)
before: 20 FPS
After: 30 FPS!!!

GPU Temps:
Avg: 80C
Max: 85C

CPU Temps:
Avg: 75C
Max: 82C

Good results? How can I make sure tha I don't make a damage to the GPU?


Thanks!

 

That is actually false, you do NOT need to leave it open 24/7. Basically it just needs to be run once on a fresh boot/after being in sleep mode, and it will stop the throttling. You don't even need to hit the "Turn On" button either, it simply just works by running it once, no settings need to be changed. I have mine to aut0-close after 5seconds so I don't have to do anything.

 

Yep that's true. The fact I've outlined to keep it always opened because I really lost the count on how many times I've told him that.
Mine is set to dcexit=3 btw.

 

Ah, ok, fair enough then. Just wanted to make sure people don't get the wrong impression about having to leave it open all the time for it to work. That seems to be the most asked question about TS, I mean, yeah, it doesn't hurt to leave it open. But for me, I'm a minimalist, so I like to have as little amount of processes running as I can.

Especially since I shouldn't have to run a program to make the CPU work as it should in the first place. I'm 1,000 times grateful to Unclewebb for creating it though(even if it wasnt meant to stop our throttling specificially). I pretty much gave up on asus to fix it, they have released 2 new bios for the G74, and still no fix for their throttling. So I have even less hope for them to release a new bios for their G73/53SW line up.

Anyways, I always see you helping others, so keep up the good work Kingpinzero! :>

 

Thanks man Knowledge is power, and sharing is caring. I always base my whole contributes around on these two rules.
If there is something i can do to help others out, im in

About TS, i used to have DcExit option in the ini on my G53. Then since im a minimalist as well, i realized that i could get rid of all the programs that let me monitor temps and stuff by enabling cpu and gpu monitoring in TS, directly on the task bar.

TS makes up for the work wonderfully. I can check min and max temps in real time while leaving it open, even now on my clevo where i dont need TS at all since its not bugged with the throttling issue. None the less its a great addition to keep an eye on the temps

Just to point out another nifty feature. Since on G-Series is almost Vital to have TS, you can leave it open in order to monitor temps as well, or close it automatically and rely on other tools. I practically ditched MSI AB for good, using fraps only when needed, and TS for temps.

Not to mention inspector for OC which is extremely easy.

 

Good morning everyone,

I recently stepped up to a 775/1450/1550 OC and realized that it's actually greatly lowered my temps in Starcraft 2!

On stock clocks, my GPU would regularly hit 80-84 deg C, but with the new OC, max temp is less than 70! I found this pretty exciting, although strange..

Also, what is a good way to test stability? I've been increasing in 20-30 mhz increments and running a 3dmark11 bench to test. When I found a good score, I run about 5 mins of Furmark to test the temps. Does this sound safe?

Furmark however quickly and somewhat dangerously raises gpu temps.. 5 Mins at 775/1450/1550 hit a max of nearly 94, within 10 degrees of the max temp, showing no signs of the fans being able to help.. This also happens with any other clock though.. Even the stock clocks reach 87 deg but eventually keep heating up.

Thanks,

Sean

 

Haha, actually the temps may be due to the fact that I switched PhysX from GPU to CPU. My mistake lol.

 

Well it sounds safe, however at those clocks you dont need a stability test. Youre still in safe range with clocks, hardly it can crash at those clocks.

Crashes may start to happen with clocks above 800mhz or so.

A good stability test would be a full HEaven Benchmark 2.5 run (usually 2-3 runs) and a full 3dmark11 run.
Id say try with 800/1600/1550 and see how it does. If its stable, then you can try to do small 50mhz increments to check how much you can reach.

However on stock vbios hardly you can hit 850 on core, usually 810 is safe.

Furmark doesnt help anymore. Fermi architecture has a power limiter which prevents the card from overheating or burning. In other words Furmark stresses only the card for high temps and nothing more. Also 94c is normal under furmark when slighly oced so ure in range. Prolly under real world gaming you will hit 82-83c which is fine as well.

Just use an intensive game such Crysis 2, Deus Ex to test stability, play it for at least 15mins.