I hate Ati Card !!!!

There is no point that i have to RMA 3 times in a year for OVERHEAT GPU in my g73, just wish i did not buy crappy g73 comes with ati 5870, anyidea how to replace ati 5870 with gtx 460

 

Ever clean out your vents?

 

thks for quick reply, i did clean it sir

 

When you RMA'ed what facility did it go to?
Did they tell you what was done? Did you suggest to them that they need to repaste the GPU? Also do you have any tools installed such as hwinfo32 to monitor fan speed?
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Use the RPM stats within the program to monitor fan speed. (not the 30 % that never seems to change).

Also what BIOS are you on, the later ones (211 and 213) are better for controlling fans.
Mine was repasted, Bios 213, Idle temps 45 in game never above 80
All around 20 Celcius ambient.

 

The Ati is a fantastic card and you dont need to replace it with the GTX 460. Latest Vbios Drivers and BIOS helps.

Unfortunetely the donkeys who work for asus dont understand:

A. how to repaste a CPU/GPU
B. what good paste looks like
C. conduct the repaste with due care and attention

Paste conduction is vital to how cool the chip runs and the only way to do it properly is to do it yourself. Original max temps for me where 105oC+. After RMA they were 102oC HERE are the pictures of their pathetic attempt at repasting mine and my results using AS5 and pushing low 90's max after it cured. After I sat down and spent a couple of enjoyable hours taking my laptop apart applying a good thick compound even did the thermal pads while I was there and replacing everything carefully. IC7 and now hit 82oC max.

 

signed!! 10 letters

 

I love Ati cards (more than 10 charts)

(they don't explode or fry themselves)

 

when i got it done, idle temp 56, max is 71, 3 months after idle temp is 73 ( ????!!!) max is 102 (hell yeah!!), i have a cooling pad with 2 fans and seldom overclock my GPU

i believe in kentucky for sure, took me 2 weeks , and vbios is 213

 

Unfair. the exploded card was way to much overvolted. ATI will exploded too if we do the same.

ATI = no Cuda , No physx,

But to stay on topic, Your G73 overheat is not ATI fault, its most likely Asus not pasting correctly.
I heard of GTX 460m overheat to on the g73.

 

My paste degraded after 9 months use. I since repasted with MX-2 and my temps are back to normal, i'll repaste again with ICD7 soon but that's because i'm a tinkerer and i like to experiment on things.

Bottom line is: repaste it yourself if you're unhappy with the job asus did or try asking for a replacement.

 

Physx is a marketing scheme and terribly overated and CUDA is a non argument for gamers as ATI streams can process shaders just as well.

Not to mention the ATI has eyefinity and drops the GTX in most benchmarks.

I was an Nvidia worshipper until I stumbled upon the 5870m and doubt I will return to the green side.

Asus cheapo paste and poor application. Pick up some good paste IC7/MX etc a good TIM and take her apart (take ur time, plan it, research) its more than just a repaste its a learning experience. First thing I do with a new laptop is a take a look inside and repaste the CPU/GPU if its second hand or a refurb or out of warranty.

 

Can I Repaste It With Silver Artic Thermal, Cause I Have One

 

Yes.

I did.

Temp results probably won't be as good as with ICD7, but a proper paste job keeps everything well within thermal limits.

 

Its more about the application paste is paste yes a thicker TIM maybe better but the application is most important and making sure the heatsink is reseated correctly and while your in there you can clean it out.

Pea method FTW

 

Nobody cares about CUDA or PhysX, just serves as a tool for fanboy 'Nvidia VS. AMD' wars.

Anyway the Nvidia cards will overheat also under a bad paste job, just repaste and keep your laptop dust free and you'll be fine.

 

My thoughts too. I bought a NVIDIA card and nver want one again. It was always overheating. This card has worked perfectly all the time although the powerplay is a little iffy. Also i need new drivers. The current ones don't OC well.

 

I don't care also on Physx and Cuda. Turning PhysX just eat my fps to hell. Even a top of the line graphic cards when I turn on the Physx, I can see a decreased performance (unless SLI with dedicated PhysX, but I don't have SLI).

@ Topic: You can still repair your laptop dude. Help comes.

 

I have this info and i dont know if is true
The Nvidia cards have to change the welding of their contacts from lead to silver and this contacts in short time begin to break, and desoldering.
The Ati cards dont have this problems for the moment. This is what tell me one guy who i ask the same question, can i change the ati for nvidia card?
i always have gforce, this is my first ati card and for the moment, without the problem of the VSOD, this card works perfect to me...

 

for the god sake, my gtx 9800+ which i use for desktop 3 years old has no OVERHEAT problem !!!! Why why why why i keep wondering myself WHYYYYYYYYYY this freaking 5870 keep my RMA 3 times. Damn !!!!!! ASUS or ATI suck ?????

 

It is not ATi. It is terrible cooling design by Asus. Secondly, I just don't understand 'repasting' fetish. Absolutely nothing replaces good cooling solution. We tested all kinds of stuff and possible scenarios in my former company and good cooling with zero paste is better than terrible cooling design with the paste with gold particles in it...Again, ATi is good and G73 is bad.

 

I disagree with this the cooling is only poor because of the heatsink which needs to be copper. The fan system and the copper piping is fine along with the extraction of the heat because most fans do not have clear air flow through the rear of the laptop like the G series does.

Repasting with a strong TIM with correct application against the original stock paste applied by ASUS has the majority of the time shown a clear benefit to the temperature under extreme load. Not always a major decrease but to bring the GPU from 100oC+ to below 100oC is a massive decrease in terms of wear and operation.

Laptops in general run hot and its not just ATI because the Nvidia cards also run very hot as well, to maintain a quiet design with good cooling is very difficult to do but my fans do not go above 3200RPM these days and I find that very impressive with such a powerful CPU/GPU combo.

 

Not only do you have to clean and properly repaste the heat sinks but I also recommend a decent notebook cooler with a single big fan. I got my RNA-7700 by Rosewill for $35 at Newegg. Remember to get them on a deal and you can most certainly save half of buying retail for one of the better aluminum models.

 

Well so ASUS RMA sucks?
Better do a repaste with a very good artic paste or whats better?
Clean vents
Use an cooling base
and try to do a vbios and bios.
Something more? this is all i have to do in my G73jh whit ATI?
Yesterday play Assassins Creed 2 and i open in second place gpu-z
and today i review the log file and i see this
2011-04-22 03:48:21 , 700.0 - 1000.0 gpu temp 101.0 , fan speed 100 , gpu load 75.

So this isnt bad i think but can be better with a good repaste dont?????
What you think???

 

Actually, not true.

Sometimes it helps a lot. Generally, it doesn't do a whole lot. But when it is applied poorly, then yeah - huge difference.

About a year and a half ago, asus had problems with TIM application on their first run of G73 JH units. Now, bad TIM applications are the exception, not the rule.

 

You cut out the second part of what I said which I believe overall is true.

However I stand by what I say unless you have applied the paste incorrectly a better paste and/or better application will lower the temps on the G73 if the stock paste applied the way it is by Asus tech's is causing the temperature to top the 100oC mark.

 

The G73 does have good cooling, the problem 99% of the time is the paste. My G73 is as cool as a cucumber and never passes the 70's under a lot of load, gaming or furmark.

 

1) I'd like to preface my discussion with that your statement is a boldface attempt at trolling, and as such is LOL'able and represents the kind of brilliant spark that you are.

2) Poor QA in the beginning caused a significant few GPU cards to have issues with degraded TIM and overheating. A proper reapplication of same-said fixes the issue. Once fixed, the system runs very cool, and can run full load while being in someone's lap and be both very comfortable, and minimal fan noise.

I would consider that to be quite the accomplishment.

3) The issue has been addressed internally, and you'll notice that the newer units + the Asus-manufactured GTX460M do not exhibit this issue.

4) You're welcome to demonstrate another manufacturer's model that outperforms the G73 series in cooling. Please include facts, especially since you're a trained & experienced tech.

5) Grrr... I despise trolls.

 

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