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    Installed E8435 - super happy!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by fatlardo, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. fatlardo

    fatlardo Notebook Consultant

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    So I just installed the E8435 into my asus g51vx-ro5. I repasted with IC Diamond and got lower idle temps!! My P7350 overclocked idle temps were about 52-56, now stock E8435 I'm getting around 42-46!!! P7350 overclocked to 2.592 on full load I never got 79-80. Stock clocks on load for E8435 never got over 77. I got the E0 version at a steal!! I think I can get better temps because it was my first time pasting. I want to get even better temps by undervolting. What is the best way to undervolt this? I tried downloading crystalcpuid but dont know how to use it. I tried using it when I had the P7350, I had cpuz up and didnt see any changes in voltage? Any advice? I was worried that it would be hotter by like 10 degrees!! Man am I happy. This should hold me off instead of wanting to buy a new computer. Once someone teaches me how to undervolt correctly, I will start ocing!
     
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  3. fatlardo

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    I had crystalcpuid but couldnt get it to work. Please let me know the difference to throttlestop? As always, thanks dtd00d!
     
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    Congrats on the install, sounds like if even undervolting does nothing, this is a big improvement!!

    Use the Crystal CPUID guide in the Asus g51 optimization guide, its the same basic principle, just with a few more multipliers. If you have problems, post em' so we get into specific problem solving.

    Kind of sounds like the last paste job was poorly done, or that is some bogus TIM they were using. What do you use to check temps, hwmonitor?
     
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    I am in the settings of Multiplier Management Settings. Am i suppose to change the Multiplier for Max Med and Min? Currently they all are showing 7.0x and I suppose to change this?
     
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    Well, the min, med, and max are the multiplier you want your CPU to use during minimal, medium, and maximum loads respectively. If you want to use the same frequency all the time, make them all the same. Since my P7350 undervolts fully at its top speed, I just run the highest multiplier on all settings, but that probably wont be doable for such a fast cpu.

    I would say set the min to the lowest voltage you can run stable regardless of its speed (since this would be during little to no load, speed isn't important).
    Max to the highest multiplier (calibrated to its lowest stable voltage).
    Medium somewhere in middle obviously, at your preference.
     
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    How do I know what my min multiplier is? It gives me the lowest of 6.0 and a max of 15.5. Does that mean thats what my cpu supports?
     
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    Yessireeeee
    Wait, 15.5? If you set that, is that what CPU-z displays too? 11.5 should be its highest (3066/266 = 11.5)
     
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    So I set my min to 6.0 to 1.150v mid to 8.0 at 1.163 and max to 11.5 to 1.175v but when I click apply then ok, in cpu-z for the mutiplier i see 6.0 fluctuating from 1.163 to 1.338v. Am I not saving it right? How about the up and down threshold, am I suppose to touch those?
     
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    Up and down are the percentages of load in which it changes from mid to med to max.

    Hmmm, I wouldn't be surprised if CPU-z had trouble reading an e8435's voltage. Have you set your windows power scheme to 100% cpu power for both minium and maximum? Crystal CPUID will just go back and forth with Windows controlling the Freq/Voltage. At least in my case

    Right clicking the tray icon of CPUID should give you the option to enable Multipler Management, which will change the icon to blue/yellow/red when applied.
     
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    I only see it as blue in the tray. The voltages in cupz still goes over that my settings. How do I change my windows 7 power scheme to 100 cpu for both min and max?
     
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    Throttlestop is more straightforward and just works imo. It's a standalone thing, so you can try it out without installing it.
     
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    I think there may be something that I am doing wrong. I tried TS as well, but in cpuz, I see that the 11.5 multiplier is still hitting 1.338 which is stock volts.
     
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    I think I have to find out hot to change the Windows power scheme as Clone has mentioned. I think it is working in a way cuz I blue screened with crystalcupid once. But the voltages are not sticking.

    Side note, does this g51vx-ro5 take more than 4gb ram? I have 64 bit. Is it even worth it if I never go over 4gb? I probably max out at a little over 3gb.
     
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    Click the battery icon in the task tray and click "More Power Options"
    On whatever scheme you are using, click "Change Plan Settings"
    Then Click "Change Advanced Power Settings"
    Then you'll change Processor power management, as seen in the attached picture. Hopefully that does is.

    Oh, yeah you can add 4gb sticks for 6/8gb of ram, but if you're not utilizing the full capacity of 4gb then it wont make a difference, might hurt your OC too if the RAM can't clock as high. Maybe handy if you turn off the pagefile.
     

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    Cool, I think this is my issue as well. I will try this tonight when I get home. I'm gonna repaste again as well, hoping I will get even better temps. Lesser is better right for paste? :) Thanks again. Will report back tonight.

     
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    Basically yea, but there is such a thing as too little. Experience is the best way to get a handle of effective quantities.
    Let us know
     
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    Darnit, same thing. I see it going to max volt of 1.338. It's still cooler than my P7350 oc'd idle. I'm loving this so far, this is an upgrade I can feel and see. I recommend this to anyone, just make sure you find an E0 version as I did. The Power4Gear can OC this to 3.3ish. I have not tried FSB yet. What is the best program for windows 7 to run some benchmarks?
     
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    Power4Gear may be causing your problem. It tends to conflict with other programs. Uninstall it and you might get rid of your voltage issue.

    I've honestly never run any benchmarks on my processor, just stress tests, but Prime95 is quite popular. PCMark Vantage is less numbers, more system wide benchmarking.
     
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    I kinda like power4gear, if its not the culprit can I dl power4gear back? Do you have an link?
     
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    I dont think I am high jacking this thread, but I just want to share my opinion after installing the E8435 SLGEA (E0 stepping) 3.06ghz from T6600 (2.2ghz).
    I dont notice any increase in heat dissipation, having said that, it might be because I have changed the thermal paste to Arctic Silver 5, but after using it for a good while, temperature is still normal, so on the thermal front, my laptop (Vaio NZ20zf) is handling it nicely.
    As for the visual improvements, you do notice applications are loading quicker, video editing, gaming fps all increased!
    All in all, I am very pleased!
    If you guys are considering getting the E8435, get the SLGEA revision as its cooler, i would definitely recommend this CPU over the much much pricey T9900.
    Quad