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    Is notebookcheck gaming performance list accurate?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by hihiip201, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. hihiip201

    hihiip201 Notebook Consultant

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    So I have a g51vx-rx05 with cpu duo core 2.8 ghz upgrade and gtx 260m.

    according to notebookcheck.com gaming list this spec should enable me to play most games on high settings(skyrim), ultra on some(such as diablo 3). (sometimes when i replay the same part it lags and sometimes it doesn't , WEIRD!)

    however, my laptop have not been able to live up to it's reputation, I have been getting lag on even high settings in skyrim, and lag in open envoriements with medium settings!!! how can this be?

    So it is either I have not been taking good care of my laptop properly or that this laptop isn't as good as it is "supposed" to be, so the purpose of this post is me asking all you g51/g60 users. How smooth can you guys run various games? what types of fps are you getting? Do you have occasional lag problem like I do?


    please give your review. thanks!
     
  2. HopelesslyFaithful

    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    what are your temps have you overclocked? The gpu comes underclocked so its not as fast as standard GTX 260m. See my cooling mod for ways to lower temp so you can overclock it. You should get about same overclocks as me once you can reduce temps. Also this card is really old. I don't think they have ever tested those games on a 260m so its a stretch when they say those things because they are using their educated guess. Over all the information there is very accurate.

    I wont be looking back at this so if you reply PM me so i can come back and look
     
  3. Threshold

    Threshold Notebook Consultant

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    Neither Skyrim nor Diablo 3 was even benchmarked on that card on notebookcheck, nor anything from the past two years (2010 is the latest year they have). Based purely on technical specs (pixel/texel fillrate) I'd estimate it to be a little higher than a 550M and perhaps a bit lower than a 555M, and neither of those cards is going to manage Skyrim on High, or for that matter D3 on Ultra (Ultra is 1920x1080)-not at anything above about 30fps, anyway. 30 is playable at least, comfortable perhaps, but it's not precisely smooth.

    The one advantage that your card does have over the above mentioned probable equivalents is memory bandwidth, but something tells me that's not enough to make a difference in D3 Ultra (AA on at that resolution), and it might not make enough difference in Skyrim on High, either, simply because it's so demanding.

    If you're after more performance then you could certainly consider overclocking it, per HopelesslyFaithful's advice, but based on preliminary research, your experience seems to match notebookcheck's results, or at least come quite close.
     
  4. hihiip201

    hihiip201 Notebook Consultant

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    well I am not running their ultra, my highest resolution is 1368x768.

    , think that should at least give me 30 fps with everything else on high? I have noticed that detailes doesn't make much difference on the lag.
     
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    Threshold Notebook Consultant

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    D3 on high details at 1366x768? Yeah, at a guess, 40-45 fps. Whether that's smooth enough for you is a personal preference, and as I don't own either D3 or Skyrim it's harder for me to be helpful.

    Still, if detail settings don't make that much difference, then it might be that the GPU isn't the bottleneck. I recall reading something elsewhere on these forums about putting D3's files on a flash drive so it would load stuff/run faster (something to do with all of its stuff being too big to fit into RAM); I'm not sure of the details, but I imagine an SSD would work at least as well. Have you considered adding one in?

    Skyrim though is a little rougher-you should be just under 30fps on all High at 1366x768 there, maybe like 28.
     
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    hihiip201 Notebook Consultant

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    I see, what I have noticed tho, is that I have been getting temp for cpu around 89 max, and gpu temp max 108 when playing diablo 3. it that a "ok" temp? If it is overheating i think that would fit my "sometimes lag" description.

    still i can't imagine my laptop not being able to play all high settings 1366x768 on this game!!!! arrrrh, I think i will try to do the "flash drive" thingy


    thanks for your reply.
     
  7. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Just to reply to the rumours above I can run skyrim on my M11x on a 540M GT at high settings with mods and get 40-60fps :) Diablo 3 however is having problems with all hardware at the moment and is very CPU intensive. I can even run Battlefield at low 30fps :)

    @OP your problem is certainly going to be your temps although the CPU is high that is not in danger yet until it reaches 90oC and above your GPU is on the verge of thermal shutdown and permanent damage. Anything above 100oC for a GPU is bad 110oC is normally armageddon.

    Firstly use compressed air in your fan vents, such an old model it will most likely be clogged to high hell and the cooling no matter how fast the fans run cannot push its way through thick layer of dirt and dust. Short sharp bursts of air into the vents and watch the dust come flying out do not hold down the canister as this can cause fan damage. Recheck your temps and you should be in a much better state. Worse case scenario you may require a repaste but 90% of the time compressed air works.


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    When a GPU temperature reaches dangerous levels it will throttle which is the lagging that you are seeing.

    Notebookcheck is very useful although it may be hard to give totally accurate readings because of the different hardware settings I still find it gives a good idea of performance.

    You may have to limit performance but your 260M GTX should have no problems with all games it was high end a few years ago and only the intensive ones like Battlefield 3 will you need to limit your settings to at a guess medium. Your problem is heat.
     
  8. hihiip201

    hihiip201 Notebook Consultant

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    ouch I'm hurt ! Isn't gtx 260m a better graphic card? I can barely run skyrim and I am getting about the same performance if not worse for B3 :(, what kind of mod are we talking about here? (I think it could be the gpu temp problem with my laptop as well).

    so to summarize the problem for my d3 and skyrim is likely to be:

    1. OVERHEATING

    2. for d3 = the game itself too.

    One thing tho is that I don't see how overheating would cause the problem I have, but
    I'm going to check out the compress air, also repasting won't be a problem as long as it uses the same kind of paste as my cpu.



    Also what I should do now is:


    1. compress air

    2. clean the dust in my sink

    3. repaste.

    correct?

    thanks for the reply.
     
  9. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    1 + 1 = problem solved.

    Bring a saucepan of water to the boil (100oc) with an egg in it and leave it for an hour while you play Battlefield 3 for an hour.

    Check the egg and the results in the long run will be the same for your graphics card ;)

    Your GPU will throttle (lag/slowdown) above 105oC to prevent damage, in your case (108oC) over time will cause permanent damage.
     
  10. hihiip201

    hihiip201 Notebook Consultant

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    ARRRHHH.... alrite I need to be a man and face the problem of my baby then....

    thanks for the help!
     
  11. HopelesslyFaithful

    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    as i said in my pm if you haven't read it yet go to my link below and do as many of those as possible. Cleaning, pasting, and cutting out the vent are the most important things. After that is done temps will drop an easy 40-50C and then you can overclock.