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    Is the G73 getting a better video card soon?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by NorthArmy, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. NorthArmy

    NorthArmy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Title says it all
     
  2. KuroLionheart

    KuroLionheart Notebook Deity

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    No. It doesn't really need a better one though.
     
  3. Voodooi

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    This.

    The G73 can already handle everything on high (even ultra on some modern games), so I don't see a refresh really needed until it falls down a level.

    Remember, the eye can only catch 30 FPS.

    The nVidia 485m for example plays everything on ultra with 50-60+ FPS. That's great and all, but you won't notice the difference between 30 and 60. A new video card refresh is only good to make the machine future proof or if you absolutely want/need to play every single game on ultra.

    I see the 5870/460m being good for at least another 2 years.
    2011: High/Ultra
    2012: Medium/High
    2013: Low/Medium
    2014: Replace

    are my thoughts/opinion.

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    If you are not a current G73 owner and want a super future proof ultra-mode laptop, then I recommend the M17X-R3 or Sager 8170 with the ATI 6970 (since it's about -200$ cheaper than the 485m and is almost identical). Laptop total is under 2k USD.
     
  4. slamming

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    You are very wrong with this.
     
  5. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    He is not im afraid this is correct information the eye can only catch 30fps. However, what you see between 30-60fps is not your eye picking up on the frames its the changes being made between frame rates because of the refresh rate.

    For instance if you turn suddenly in game and your frames drop from 55 - 35 you will notice a difference but once it steadies itself it will go back to being no different to 30fps again. People like to have 60 to make sure that the frame rate can drop close to 30 at some points and they do not see any interference in their gameplay.
     
  6. dkillone

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    Human eyes don't see in frames, so us not being able to see over 30fps is a myth NOT fact.

    15 FPS vs. 30 FPS vs. 60 FPS - A Visual Comparison

    That link helps prove, but even just a bit of googling and you'll see why its a myth vs fact.

    On topic though, yeah, seems like at best the G series will get is the GTX560m and that so far should just end up being a 460m rebrand. Maybe in 2012 we may see a bigger change, just have to keep waiting on more news.

    Best tip, buy for what performance u need now, unless something is literally a week or a month away, waiting is pointless.
     
  7. xxERIKxx

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    I can tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps. I can't tell the difference over 60fps because of my 60hz refresh rate.

    Yes the g73 still has a good video card for the price range.
     
  8. GapItLykAMaori

    GapItLykAMaori Notebook Evangelist

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    ... the human eye and the fps thing is a HUGE misconception that people spread around. The reality is that you can tell the difference between 30 and 60 because of the refresh rate of the screen. Most laptop screens are 60hz therefore you wouldnt be able to tell between 60 and 70 but u CAN differentiate between 30 and 60.
     
  9. Abula

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    I think asus wont move to another gpu atm, mostly out of nvidia not releasing anything new atm, their mid/low are coming with Nvidia gpus, i think they are going to wait for new gpu, probably might see a GTX560 sometime this year, but i still have my doubts if nvidia its just going to rebrand it. I feel the new gpus for the mobile market are going to come next year close to Ivy Bridge cpus.
     
  10. manu72

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    As the other already said the difference between 30 and 60 fps is visible, especially in fast moving scenes.
    The TV and movie industry using 24-30 fps is actually nothing more than compromise.

    And not to be completly off topic:
    I would say that G73 could use a gtx470m tbfh. I don't think they could fit it in a G53, but it should work in G73.
     
  11. mindinversion

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    Maybe so but, sudden massive drops in FPS aside, is it really SUCH a noticable difference at the end of the day?

    Personally, most if not all of the updates I'd like to see in my JH exist in the JW.
     
  12. slamming

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    Yes, it is VERY noticable. Anyone that has played games for a while will tell you this. The whole "no difference" argument is complete BS and shouldnt be spread.
     
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    i have a friend that rma'd his g73 because his gpu got toasted while rendering and gaming at the same time.

    and told me he'd get an nvidia 485 to replace his 5870. :|

    idk if it's even possible or maybe he's just trolling. :|
     
  14. DCx

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    Sounds like he's trolling.
     
  15. swaaye

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    Regarding eyeballs and framerate: I still have a CRT that can do 160 Hz at some resolutions and I will say with certainty that running games at 100 Hz or higher provides extremely fluid motion. Of course you need to have a GPU that can push games that fast and it usually means playing old games or running low resolutions (not a big deal on a CRT). I find it tangibly smoother than 60 fps but it's not exciting enough for me to want to use the old 19" CRT instead of my modern 24" LCD or 50" plasma TV. ;)

    It's astonishing to find people who think that 30 fps is the top though because that is easily proven false. Not to say that 30 fps isn't adequate though. I'm fine with 30 fps. Hell 30 fps is butter smooth compared to what some old games ran at on old computers and consoles.