Looking for a used ATI 5870M

hi everyone as the title says i am looking for a used ati 5870m in working condition as mine has died so if anyone is willing to sell his spare 5870m then kindly let me know or inbox me thanks

 

Just a heads up, depending on your model it may be a proprietary connection so make sure you get one from the exact same model.

 

It very likely is, and even if the slot is standard the heatsink may not be.

 

yeah i am looking for a gpu pulled from asus g73jh ...btw i was getting the CLEVO 5870 one from aliexpress.com ..what do u say it will work without any fan speed issues? do i need to flash any bios if i install that card?

 

how about the clevo 5870m ? do i need to modify the bios or it will work without any issues ?

 

It will not physically fit into the slot.

 

hmm and what about the one from DELL? i am looking for the one which can be fitted perfectly without any heatsink and vbios mods !

 

I'm pretty sure only an Asus card from a G73 will physically fit into the GPU slot.

 

but its too expensive as compared to clevo or dell ...asus one is for 160$ where CLEVO is for 88.99$ and dell is for 102$

 

Regardless of price, if it wont fit it doenst do you any good.

 

Actually, with this particular model it will fit and it's electronically compatible as well. It would've been a problem the other way around; Asus uses (non-standard) wider cards than Dell and Clevo, so the Asus has some room to spare. Older series Asus wouldn't have worked either; non-standard interface. The JH, however, uses MXM 3B as it was intended (-ish); only issue here is their slightly oversized cards ... maybe Asus thinks ' third time's the charm' and doesn't even make an effort at the first two attempts ?

Non-Asus does pose two (minor) problems;
1.) One of the two MXM screw holes is on a different location as well, so it won't match the raiser on the motherboard. Never saw a problem with using just one screw, though you could pull tie wrap through hole and around the extender+screw.

Spoiler: Asus vs. Dell HD 5870M

2.) Heatsink won't match all ICs on the Dell or Clevo version. Might need to dremel off a bit to get it flush to the gpu and, at the very least, some thick pads to get some form of cooling for the critical components.

Also, better read this thread first: G73JH running a MSI 5870m.

Really, it's just a question of how much effort $70 savings are worth.

 

check this video
this guy just took out the gpu and installed the AMD 6970m (Dell version i guess)...he just screwed the gpu on a single bolt and placed the heatsink wtihout any modification and it turned on

 

hey thanks for the reply btw i have seen that post before and i was thinkng of installing 6970m in my g73jh as i am unable to get used 5870m less than 160$ ...6970 is 130 $ approx ..and i was able to find CLEVO one for 88.99 dolars....i am waiting for someone to confirm if the CLEVO one is working in G73JH?

 

Thats a clevo version of the card in the video (the heatsink included is the give away).

 

giveaway? u mean its the stock one right ? he didnt modded the heatsink in the video . He just screwed it with the GPU assembly

 

The heatsink in the box with the card in it (which he displays briefly at the beginning) is a clevo P15x or P17x series heatsink to go with the card. So I assume based on that the video is of a clevo card.

 

yes i know but all i am saying is that he didnt took out the clevo's heatsink he just fitted the gpu and the stock unmodified heatsink in the laptop and thats all

 

He did not take out the heatsink no, but if he got a clevo heatsink with the card then it's likely a clevo card and therefore if you buy a clevo card it's likely to behave the same. The heatsink is simply being used to identify the card, it has nothing to do with the upgrade.

 

not a single guy is having spare 5870m

 

It's been quite a while now so they will be getting rarer.

 

thats weird btw i got a DELL'S GTX 460m from friends alienware ...is it going to work in my g73jh ?

 

Bought a defective one just now (for its CF connector). Will try a simple bake, who knows ... might resurrect it.

 

u bought a defective gpu for how much ?and a 5870m right ?well best of luck with the try

 

Yes, 5870M for $10. Shipping cost was several times that, however ... might sell for $50 if it's running, or keep it for recovery/research purposes.

 

a guy on ebay pulled his card from g73jh and sold it along with the heat sink in 75$ within a single day....btw if it works ...do let me know

 

Sure thing.

Your 460M might just work, provided the JH shares (part of) its bios with the rest of the G73-series. Nothing beats an actual test, of course, let's see how it goes.

 

but i guess i might need to flash a modded bios or something like that? i am totally noob in that but i can give it a try if someone helps me out with it ! as soon as i will get the gtx460 from my friend i will update u guys with the situation

 

Tested it yet? Only flash vbios if necessary.

Dead 5870M arrived, aside from baking also wanted to extract vbios (perhaps it was just a bad flash). Unfortunately, can't make head nor tail of the markings (all faded) and need those to id the eeprom and hook up the programmer correctly. Could unsolder, but wanted to try ISP first. Ordered a loupe (x20, made-in-Germany), so ... more waiting.

 

well i tried to do a blind flash but it didnt worked ! so i grabbed a used DELL hd5870m now it is working perfectly except the fans are running at full RPM

 

Temperatures in HWiNFO? And which vbios? Can check with GPU-Z.

 

see this ! i am not able to check the temperature in HWInfo nor in the GADGET or any other software except the GPU-Z software ..and its showing that the speed of the fan is 30 percent and thats not true actually because my laptop is opened and i can see both the fans spinning at full RPM ! and about he VBIOS they are the default DELL's one and whenever i try to save the VBIOS my system hangs and i have to shut down the laptop by holding the power button ! i wish i could flash asus vbios on it but i am afraid of bricking this card and i dont want this to happen !

 

Yes, that's not uncommon with GPU-Z. Even with 'native' systems.

Doesn't matter; it's a Dell vbios alright (012.020.000.027.037640). Cause of fan is clear then; no temperature report -> worst case scenario is assumed -> fan 100%. Could search for other users' experiences, see if Dell -> Asus is ok.

Take a pill; either live with the noise or attempt a flash. First prepare auto blind-flash (with Dell vbios) and have that standing by then, just in case.

 

i dont know how to make an auto flash vbios ! so i guess i have to stick with it btw does the GPU-Z show the accurate temperature ?

 

Probably, seems accurate enough. But those aren't the values the EC is receiving or it is receiving those, yet can't make sense of them.

Try writing this to USB stick (min. 1GB) with USB Image Tool and boot from that:
autoflash test and vbios export.7z

Spoiler: usb image tool - write image

It will test if an autoflash is even possible, write an info .txt and make a backup of any ATI vbios present. If there's an 'adapt*.rom' file after booting then that is your Dell vbios (copy this somewhere safe). Doesn't change anything, so can't do harm. On unzipping the .7z the image file is 1GB; that's normal, the actual size on disk is only 1.2MB.

Spoiler: autoflash test and vbios export

 

well um still afraid of it so i guess i must try to ask someone or open a thread if anyone can mod asus 5870m's bios for dell 5870m ..i dont want my decrease the life of my laptop's fan

 

Can't mod it just to make it report temperatures in a different way. Overclock/undervolt, yes; use Radeon BIOS Editor for this. Only problem is that it doesn't work for these two bioses' fan table; ' Fan section' greyed-out. Don't worry about the fan; can run for years and years, only a bit noisier over time.

Main thing is noise/annoyance, if you want it fixed; run the usb stick. Can't do harm, it's for testing only.

Still need to test my 'dead' Dell 5870M; can flash Asus rom to it and see if it'll run with proper fan control on Clevo system. Think Clevo roms might actually do better on both systems (Asus as well); these seem to be the only vbios with fan table. So ... made Clevo rom with Dell headers: ClevoDell vbios.

 

Yes trying to do major structural changes and interfacing it with the non standard EC interface of a machine is not going to be a simple procedure.

 

ahaaa ! so when u are going to try that clevodell vbios ? please update me whatever the results come so i can try on my dell hd5870m ! well i can live with the fans at full rpm ! but the biggest issue i am having are the artifacts that i see on my internal lcd ! when i connect my laptop to an external monitor it works properly and i am currently using an external monitor because i cannot see properly on my internal lcd and read it on this website that the guy was having the same issue with dell's hd5870m but he was having heatup issue too and i am not having that ! just weird display on internal laptop's lcd ! http://forum.techinferno.com/asus-g...s-g73jh-hd-5870m-dead-fail-vbios-flash-2.html check this out ! he said that he flashed the card to A00 ! whats that? a revision i guess ...so i was thinking to flash mine too ...what do u say about it ?
EDIT : i have tried 2-3 new LCD cables but still get the same weird colors on internal screen... i have tried a new LED display too but the results were same WEIRD Colors .. i opened a thread and u can see the pictures i have posted there : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-g73jh-weird-lcd-colors-lcd-or-lcd-cable.779334/

 

;UPDATE : Got the internal LCD to work flawlessly without any problems ! flashed the vbios of Dell's 5870m of A00 revision ...the old one was A01 which had issues in alienware same as mine with the internal display colors ! now as i have flashed the A00 revision its working perfect but the fans are still at full RPM ! well atleast i have got one great work done

 

UPDATE 2 : i am now having GPU CORE CLOCK at 405mhz and Memory clock at 1000MHZ all the time on idle or browsing but it moves to 700/1000 while gaming ! what could be the issue ? @Meaker @t456
went to advanced power settings and changed the ATI GPU behavior to MAXIMUM BATTERY on BALANCED profile for BATTERY and MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE on HIGH PERFORMANCE profile ! so here are the changes :-
High performance profile: 405/1000 if idle and 700/1000 on gaming !
Balanced Profile : 300/400 even if i turn on a game it sticks to 300/400.
i was not having this problem when i was using Revision A01 vbios on my laptop except the messed up internal lcd colors .. it used to be 100/150 on ideal and temperatures were nice on that but on this one i got internal lcd to work normally but having problem with the temperature and clocks..Tried to revert back to the old bios which i was having before with messy colours ! the clocks are now same like the new vbios ..um literally confused now

 

Many Clevo vbioses tend to do that as well; several clock settings, but all profiles use the single full-power setting. Upload both vbioses somewhere; maybe A00 can be modded.

And yes, will try the ClevoDell; can program directly to chip, so no worries about bricking.

 

here you go with the bios i have attached a zip file ..REV0 is the old bios(019) of REVISION A00 which i have flashed now and is working properly with internal lcd but having issues with the clocks and REV1 is the the new bios(0.20) of REVISION A01 which was working before on external display and messay color on internal display !
btw i tried to flash ur CLEVODELL bios but it gave an error of SSID MISMATCHED ! so it didnt worked ! :
and i have noticed one thing ! whenever i remove the AC adapter and shift to HIGH PERFORMANCE Mode the clocks remain same at 300 core and 400 memory ! dont know what is wrong with it

 

Clocks of both are identical, except REV1 has an extra 'thermal' profile (300/400). For 100/150; only 'Power saving + Battery mode' would do that. Might reinstall driver.

That's normal. Use '-f' if you want to flash it:

Code:

atiflash -unlockrom 0
atiflash -p 0 -f clevo.rom

However, the Clevo has only a single clock; 700/1000 @1.05V. Can't mod that easily (only the single clock), but the Clevo is the only one with embedded fan table, so ... can't have both. Also, crossflashing does have its risks . If you want to go ahead anyway then set usb stick as the first boot device. That way you can blindflash back if something goes awry (fingers crossed).

Try resetting to defaults (after reinstalling driver).

 

woah thats risky to flash like that as i dont have a separate programmer :/ so i would first wait for ur feedback of u flashing this bios on ur GPU ! and i have tried flashing stock vbios again and drivers in a full clean way but still the same ! i was reading on other websites that underclocking clocks thing happens to prevent from destroying battery life ..well soon i will fresh install the windows 7 again and will report back here ! and i am still waiting for ur news of ur dell 5870m working with ur modified vbios

 

any update about ur gpu ? @t456

 

Not much (having too much fun with this right now).

Did pen down the vbios eeprom and gpu ic:

Code:

vbios chip:
Pm25LV010
AE1030
M227521G

gpu chip:
1045
N2X911.00
216-0769008

Unfortunately, this eeprom is not ISP-capable, so will have to de- and re-solder. Will try blind-flash first; less effort.

 

lol damn u NVIDIA ...well i read on the alienware forum that fan control is only in clevo card other than that asus cards and other cards have fan control in laptop's bios ! kind of confused alot
btw is there any way i can manually control the fans ? i cannot find any fan icon or option in HWINFO64 in sensors tab ! nor the speedfan shows the option so i was thinking if u have any idea about that ?

 

That would match the difference in their vbios; only Clevo has a fan table. Not sure about the Asus; have a few versions, but these don't have a fan table, either. All non-Clevo may use EC for this (similar to bios, only different tasks), this is not something that can be changed without hardware mods as well.

Don't think any software will help here. A trimpot would do (variable resistor), that works every time. Hm, does your gpu fan have three or four wires? Anyway, these two would be perfect for any laptop fan:

• Honeywell 53C150
• CTS 026TB32R500B1A1

The Honeywell is a bit close; maximum draw of a laptop fan connector is 2.5W, but there's some leeway and it's a bit smaller, so easier to fit.

 

Well there is no fan table option in the Radeon Bios Editor of asus's vbios or dell's vbios ! and the fans are having 4 wires each and i dont want to make any kind of modifications with the fans like the resistor thing cux i have to make modification in the body too :/

 

Four-wire means pwm control and Clevo uses three-wire (voltage/amp control). So the ClevoDell probably won't help either ... that other thread also had no solution.

Aside from a trimpot, there is also an easier option, this being a two-fan system. But it'd still require a cut, splice and join of a wire:



The effect is that one fan controls both, so they'll run in sync. (and fully automated);

• cpu=high -> gpu=high
• cpu=low -> gpu=low

Normally it's the cpu that's stressed or both cpu+gpu. Gpu stress without cpu load is rather unusual and even if it were to happen (and so gpu fan's not at full speed) then the gpu would merely downclock temporarily. Practically though, the only drawback of this setup is when cpu is stressed; then you'll have the gpu fan run too, adding a little more noise.