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    Mobile Catalyst 10.9a

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by ziddy123, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The latest hotfix Catalyst 10.9a for Mobile Users.

    http://www.donotargue.com/dna-ati/DNA-ATi_10_9a_1_64.exe

    To add HD5870M, edit the INF file.
    Edit: C7104558.inf
    Add: "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870" = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0&SUBSYS_1C021043

    So far I haven't had any issues. This is a modified driver so you do have to disable Windows' Driver Signature enforcement.
    - Driver Signature Overrider: http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=34&go=giveme&dwn_id=826

    There are other benefits, a few tweaks and also made some options available that you can't use on the official.

    Another Source:
    MD5 Hash: 3CD111B11A459CFE77D0D32F09FD17AA
    Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7EFLI109
    - Just install drivers like normal. Then install ReadyDriver.
     
  2. Nekki

    Nekki Notebook Evangelist

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    so, it's supposed there was no 10.9 for mobile this time from ati/amd????

    an now 10.9a???
     
  3. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    Are we sure this isn't just a modded desktop 10.9?

    Cheers,
     
  4. ziddy123

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    I said this was a modified driver. PowerPlay etc everything is working, temps are the same as 10.8. Same for battery.
     
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    Notice any difference performance wise?
     
  6. ziddy123

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    Stalker COP does run smoother as the 10.9 release notes said they would. In Crysis the details/quality is bit higher than I remember High Setting to be, but the performance remained the same.

    Maybe it's just my impressions, but happy with these.
     
  7. panzer06

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    So this mainly fixes power play for those having problems and addresses the games listed in the release notes? No need to move right away to this unless the lack of these features impact you, right?

    Cheers,
     
  8. ziddy123

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    I'm just letting people know it exists. If you want to try it, go for it. There are a few different tweaks and options that don't exist in AMD's drivers, AMD decided to disable some features, who knows why.

    Plain and simple, want to try it, try it. That's all.
     
  9. sean473

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    does it solve the scalling issue with 10.8? Its irritating having to change the scalling each time i connect with HDMI.
     
  10. ziddy123

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    CatalystMaker already said a month ago that fix would not be available until Catalyst 10.10.
     
  11. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    No problem. I'm just cautious about using modded drivers since I find they don't overwrite as well. I never use driver sweeper or such and just install the newest release and it seems to work well. The only time it didn't was years ago on my long sold desktop after I installed some pre-release drivers.

    I shall wait for you and other adventurers to test them out.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers,
     
  12. Chastity

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    10.8 is working fine for me. I'll wait for 10.10.
     
  13. ziddy123

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    Fastest drivers I've used so far since getting my G73 in February. But the image quality is phenomenal. I'm enjoying them.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. -keph-

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    hey ziddy can u help me how to edit the inf file..by steps..sorry nubie..thx
     
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    Unzip the file, go to Packages/Drivers/Display/W76A_INF
    Edit: C7104558.inf
    Add: "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870" = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0&SUBSYS_1C021043
     
  16. Nekki

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    why is that???

    just adding this line code you made desktop catalyst compatible with mobile vga cards??
     
  17. thegr8anand

    thegr8anand Notebook Guru

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    Yes it simply makes your card acceptable for the installer. It is done for nvidia drivers as well. But these drivers won't have all customizations(power etc) made for laptops i think but should run allright.
     
  18. Nekki

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    Nice numbers. Can you reports us your benchs with previous catalysts?? just for compare how big is the improve with this drivers...
     
  19. ViciousXUSMC

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    what files did you sign with the overrider to allow install just the .inf?

    to use the overridder dont you also need to be in test mode?

    I know these things because I have done it with my drivers for the PS3 DualShock 2 controller but for others these things would be unknown and should be explained.

    Also noticed the crysis test says Vista? It it just too outdated to report 7? or were you really on Vista instead of 7 for some reason?
     
  20. ziddy123

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    This has all the power settings. The person who has made this driver has been modifying drivers for laptop use for almost 10 years now.

    The Diver Overrider does put it in test mode, believe there are other solutions.
    - The driver also includes a ReadyDriver which will automatically disable driver signature at each boot. Extends boot time by about 5 seconds. Works fine though.
    - Packages/Apps/DNA-ATi-RDP

    The Crysis 64 only runs when I force it to run in Vista 4 SP2 mode.
     
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    still cant get it how to install..ive tried it just now but they said its error...pls show it step by step..thx ziddy..
     
  22. hirush

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    Hi ziddy does the crysis benchmark involved GPU overclock? If not that's pretty nice FPS =) And one hell of driver.
     
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    800/1100. My previous fastest was 33.9, so this is a nice boost, especially since the quality, IQ is higher than I remember it to be.

    There are a few things the drivers unlock to give a boost to image quality.
     
  24. Sabre-shin

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    I'm liking this driver so far.
     
  25. ViciousXUSMC

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    Just a few things.

    First that .inf file does not exsist for me, the proper .INF file to edit was - C7105140.inf for me.

    Next up is how to make it work.

    After changing the .inf file properly you can install the drivers easily there will be a warning window telling you the driver is not signed and ask if you want to install it anyways. Hitting yes WILL install the driver. If you look at the install log it will say "success"

    The problem most of you will run into is that at reboot the system will not initialize the driver because its not signed.

    Your options.

    1.) Hit F8 every time you boot your computer and select "disable driver signature enforcement"

    2.) Use the recommended program DriverReadyPlus that is included with the DNA driver download. It basically automatically presses F8 and selects the disabled signature mode.

    I personally do not trust programs like this and refuse to use them so I go with method 3.

    3.) Sign your own drivers with the program listed above. Its a long process but you only have to do it once. Then you can forget it and it will work.

    The list of files that have to be signed for this driver package (after you install it) are.... HERE

    And yes I took like a dozen screen shots and sliced that together in photoshop for you.

    Remember once you signed the drivers you still have to have test mode enabled for it to work, but thats also a one time deal. You can turn it off later if you wish when you use official drivers.

    There is another program that can remove the test mode watermark if you wish its linked in the driver override program.


    For sure not all of those files have to be signed to work, it may just be the 3 files in the /drivers directory but I signed them all just to be safe, only took like 10 minutes. I opened the image and went one by one and used copy/paste for the directory so i only had to type the file name.


    Edit: Ran Crysis Bench... Interesting result only 32fps average for me stock, then did a 800/1100 overclock on gpu and 1.75ghz CPU overclock and got the same exact score....
     
  26. PhnX

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    Would this still GSOD on stock bios?
     
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    Who cares? Just update your vBIOS.
     
  28. PhnX

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    Why answer a question with something like that? It is clearly known that not all BIOS flashes go 100% as planned. It is very possible to brick your GPU, as the dozens of people on this forum can attest to. For some of us, a laptop can mean the difference between passing and failing school. Am I confident I can do the flash properly? Yes. Would I bet $15,000 of tuition on it? No.

    If anyone with 206 has tried out these drivers with any success, I'd appreciate the information.
     
  29. JoeWhee

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    If you want to stop your GSOD, update your vBIOS. It is the only known fix which has been stated several times throughout recent threads.
     
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    BIOS 206 has nothing to do with GSOD. The vBIOS causes the GSOD. If you do everything properly, you won't brick your laptop with BIOS/vBIOS flash, if it bricks, it is your fault, because you didn't do something right.
     
  31. ziddy123

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    This driver has nothing to do with GSODs. All it is to give you that performance that AMD improved upon in a few games while you wait for 10.10. When 10.10 comes out, I would install that. 10.9a is not a necessity, but there have been a lot of praise for 10.9a. It is curious that AMD didn't release for mobile when it seems from 10.6-10.9a this has been the best release so far.
     
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    Actually if this is the true 10.9a drivers there is a undocumented fix for HDMI in the desktop drivers. It is worth a shot if you haven't already.
     
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    Can anyone give a noob-proof way to install this dna drivers please.

    I tried many ways but all of them unsuccessful...and the readydrivers plus is not included in the package.
     
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    I uploaded one with the ReadDriver clearly seen and the modified INF included.
     
  35. Nekki

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    Ok, waiting for the link (and instructions :D )

    With 10.7a my average was 24
    10.8 increases to 27
    waiting for dna drivers


    PD: just messed up all my system bacause I follwed the Vicious instructions for signature. System restore is a nice feature :rolleyes:
     
  36. ziddy123

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    Bottom of the Opening Post.
     
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    Page 3 I gave all the instructions, correct files names, and even listed the files needed to sign so you dont have to worry about messing something up with 3rd party programs that have access to boot.

    Working fine for me via the manual sign method, no pressing F8 @ boot and no readydriver install.
     
  38. Almost Tactful

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    Actually if you leave the stock vBIOS and don't run stock video drivers then I guess "technically" the drivers could cause the GSOD lol, but at that point one could chime in that it's the BIOS and not the driver. However if a GSOD isn't caused with say 10.2 but is caused with 10.8 then it will be argued that the 10.8 driver caused the GSOD
     
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    No GSOD here on any drivers so far and I still have the stock VBIOS.

    I do have the newer system bios just recently but had the stock system bios for the longest as well.

    My order of drivers was Stock --> 10.4 leak --> 10.6 alpha leak --> 10.9DNA so I never really used any "normal" driver released by ATI they were all beta drivers or leaked drivers and now recently these modified drivers.

    These are the first ones I had to do the manually driver signing for, all the leaked drivers I used before were straight up installs w/ no hassles because ATI has every vid/pid code included in them for testing and has them signed.

    No performance gains that I can see or IQ gains that I can see over the drivers I was using before, and no notable fixes for any games that made updating necessary.
     
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    Woot. Thanks Ziddy. The line to be added to the .inf you supplied fixed my "Wrong OS" error I was getting from other modded .inf's for the 10.9a's. Now they are installed and sailing smooth.
     
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    I've upgraded the drivers from the stock 9.12 to 10.8 to 10.9a.

    Immediately started GSOD-ing when i upgraded to 10.8 tried going back to the stock ones but it would say the video drivers have failed to install and i would be stuck at 1440x so that basically left me with no options.

    So essentially i am asking should I try updating the vBios for the GSOD's or try troubleshooting and getting the stock drivers to work, I mean i know there are definitely advantages using the new drivers over the old ones but are they worth the hassle ?

    Please advise.
     
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    Advice: READ THE STICKIES (posts/threads at the top of the forum). Specifically the one that is about fixing your GSODs.
     
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    Yes i have read the stickies not once but many times. All i am asking is should i revert back to the stock drivers or flash the new vBios.
     
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    The advice to your question has been given NUMEROUS times in several places.
     
  45. IM0001

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    UPDATE YOUR vBIOS! Plain and simple. Newer drivers (especially almost a year newer) are almost always going to be better than old ones. Especially since new games depend on driver support these days more than ever to get the full usage of the latest GPU's.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    I still use 9.12 and can play every game pretty solid :)

    No problems for me... but when I've time I might take the update(s)

    Q
     
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    The 9.12's were not bad driver. Heck I enjoyed the 9.10 and 9.11 driver quite a bit back when they were new.

    But as I have over 200 games installed, to get them all to work right usually required a full update to the latest drivers on my desktop at least lol. Laptop has about 1/2 that installed. :D
     
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    Another Steam-head with 100+ games :D
     
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    When July 4th/Christmas comes around and $30+ games are $6, how can you not splurge and grow your collection. :D I have at least 40+ of the games I have yet to even play yet lol.
     
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