Modified overvolting vbios of GTX460m on G73SW.

Thanks for the quick response!
I would expect you run the test with this new Overclocking and inform the result.

try to perform the test with the same settings as Full HD on my test I conducted.

I believe that if current limit for the MXM card, will also shut down your notebook.



Saltius

I keep waiting for the Mod VBIOS Asus G73JW 1Volt
As soon as you can Post here for us.

thanks

 

Could be true, according to notebookcheck.net, SW's current consumption maxload is like 115.7W compared to JW's149W.

 

Hi everybody,

I'm new on this very interesting forum and I need help to flash my Vbios on an Asus G53SW.

I follow all the steps and used Saltius' Vbios but before I flash, i have a message telling me :

"firmware image pci subsystem ID (1043.2046) does not match adapter PCi subsystem (1043.2047)".

I stopped eveything but I would like to know if there is a danger to flash my card ?

Is there a difference between the notebooks because I'm in France ?

Thank you in advance.

 

Don't think there's much differences. This happens is because the BIOS you were trying to flash has a different sub-system ID to your card, what you need to do is download NibiTor 6.02 or above and change the sub-system ID to 2047 for your GTX460M.

 

Thank you for your quick answer.

 

guys,,, good job,,, only a few hours I left from home and all clear so perfect job Saltius, but can you send also a picture actually which value you changed as before , now I will try 1.0V and lets see the result

I just noticed two different mod bios which one is right choise ???

 

UPDATE !!! @ Saltius,,, After your advise I tried second bios first but it just crushed when MSI afterburner, core 335 but I upload for the first one and now I will test it but for sure 1.0V is ok I can see same with Furmark 1.9.1

 

Whats the changelog mate?
About the same temp , well I noticed that fans start spinning more constantly now than before.
I guess that's why it doesn't go up than 84c.

 

Ok here i am.
Saltius i tried the newer bios but once i overclock even 50mhz its an instant system freeze.
It outputs a nice blue screen
Reverting back to your first v1.0 vbios fixed all the things, and its working again.

 

second bios not working I agree, the first one is good but still needs some modification I think 865/1650/1525 Dirt 3 everything in ultra whatever you think on or ULtra as well and 35 min alive then crush but not driver game crushing mostly almost same thing

So, @Saltius, I think with 1.0V it should stay on 865 core or over but seems not enough even 1.0V so I also wonder what are you using for edit ? Nibitor ?

 

The result I got from the first v1.0 vbios is pretty close to the v0.962 one, above 880MHz will still lead to artifact popping or driver crashes and moreover, even sudden shutdowns during gaming sessions. I later found out that the v0.962 is still having sudden shutdowns at 840MHz, so I decreased 5MHz and test it then repeat the same process till no more sudden shutdowns, ended up at 780MHz, and yes I was using Crysis 2 Dx11 mode as a test program for the sudden shutdowns. After I flashed the GTX 460M with the v1.0 vbios, the core speed seems to accept 795MHz on mine, this is the core speed with absolutely 0 sudden shutdowns at v1.0 in my rig. Being said that I could OC to 880MHz, after all it's just a temporary clock. So far from what I have experienced, I can say that the absolutely 0 shutdown clock for each vottage on mine is: 725MHz on v0.9125, 780MHz on v0.962 and 795MHz on v1.0.

 

need a G73SW 1.0 version... I'm too lazy today to mod it myself :B

actually I'd love a volt mod for the 5870M... someday...

 

Both of the 1st and 2nd 1v mod vbios for G53SW 460M are based on the concept that Asus GTX460M's PWM supports 4 voltage levels.
As long as the PWM uses VID pins to determine which voltage it chooses, the pwm should support 2^n levels:e.g.2,4,8,16 and so on.(n=the number of the VID pins)

From the voltage table of Asus GTX460M's vbios,I can read there are indeed four voltage levels:
lv1:0.82v
lv2:0.92v
lv3:0,97v
lv4:1.00v

By reading the voltage setting in the table,I get the exact voltages:
setting 00: 0.8150v lv1 labeled as 0.82v
setting 01: 0.9150v lv2 labeled as 0.92v
setting 02: 0.9625v lv3 labeled as 0.97v

See, lv4 is left alone, there is no setting 03 bound to it.

1st 1v mod vbios: I change setting 02 by substituting original 0.9625v strings with 1.0v ones.
2nd 1v mod vbios: I add a setting 03 containing 1.0v strings.

All I have done is to bring up the 4th voltage level.And for the result we get by now, I have two explanations:

A: The 1st 1v mod vbios does bring us the 4th voltage level and it just makes a slight difference. And Asus GTX460m VBIOS doesn't support a setting 03 like clevo/MSI/AW ones. So it brings blue screen.

B: The 1st 1v mod vbios doesn't work.Setting 02 is bound to 0.9625v and it doesn't bring us the 4th voltage level, the actual voltage stays 0.9625v though it is read 1.000v by softwares. The 2nd 1v mod vbios does bring us the 4th voltage lv. However, that voltage is lower than 0.9625v or even lower than stock 0.9125v though labeled and read by softwares as 1.0v, which means bad overclock ablity.Thus it brings us blue screen.

At least, we see these mod vbios don't brick the card. So I should provide other vbios for testing (The same method as 1st 1v mod for G53SW).

 

You can just post the original vbios here.

Besides, I've seen svl7 done some volt mod for 6970M not through modding vbios though.

 

Here's the original vbios for g73sw (at least it should be):

 

Here it is.

 

Hello Saltius.

tested here VBIOS 1.0V.

In fact, the result is Fake, ie, the card is not working on 1.0 volts.
I can say after the tests I did, that the Asus G73JW Mod 1Volt VBIOS has no effect.

When all this was exactly identical with the VBIOS 0.962 Volts. same limitations.

Programs 1.0VOlts show, the more the card is maximum voltage of 0.962 volts.

Soon I will disassemble my notebook, I'll take some photos for you of GTX460m with good definition.
So you can Analyze The components, that can help in any way??

 

How are you friend?

Are you experiencing the same problem I In his G73JW.

subtle that these shutdowns are occurring and possibly for current limitation in the motherboard.

Take a look at this Forum which I opened, and if possible fassa the same tests (exactly) with the MAFIA 2
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...safety-shutdown-forced-possible-solution.html

Today I'll try, create an electrical bridge enters the MXM card and the motherboard to see if the problem ends.

So this me missing more than a little courage kkkkkkk

 

Thanks for your feedback.

Besides, I am not good at hardware modding. We may need to find some experienced guys first to analyze the components.

 

is I who thank you!

Anyway, your work was amazing!

I am able to arrive at stable 850Mhz GPU Clock at 0.962 Volts

The only problem now is I try to work around the limitation of current (A) that the motherboard is doing in my MXM card.
Subtle it is causing shutdowns in some games.

 

@Saltius,,, Whatever you did was really perfect so keep going. So far I made some test with first bios and almost same with 0.962 but actually also seems more stable and agree second one has some problem not blue screen yet but reducing all speed down when afterburner starts.

Still I m not sure which program are you using for editing ? Nibitor or any other ? because even in Nibitor or Fermi Bios Editor doestn give clear info

I tried first bios with Crysis 2 as 3D 1366*768 means more than 1920*1080 and it was alive 865/1730/1550 all sett was in Ultra only High Res. text was off because in some place texture has some problem I think. On the other hand I didnt face any safe shutdown yet only on Dirt3 which I m still searching I have problem because game closing itself but rest seems as good like Heaven Bench/3DMark11/Furmark

And finally system is working on 1.0V or not, I think is working why because because my high temp was around 85 max but yesterday I observed 89-90 during game play means something really high inside

 

I see, that pretty much explains everything.
Anyway I think it's not a placebo effect based on two things since I had time to test it further:

- I said temps stays the same 84c, I was wrong. I had the top at 85c last night, so it's a mere 1c increase.
It could mean nothing obviously, but this lead to the second point:

- I'm able to benchmark at 850-1700-1600 thing that was out of discussion before, and the 3dmark11 link proves that.
At 850-1700-1600 before I couldn't even run the second benchmark without a driver crash and recovery, and any game/app would crash inna few minutes.

So what I'm saying here is that probably it's not a "real" 1.0 but sonething in between, probably limited by the voltage regulator or the chip used itself.
I think it's a fluctuation between 0.962-0.985 or something like that.

Definitely it's working as I gained more stability.
I used DeusEx as my primary benchmark program: before I couldn't stay half hour at 840-1680-1600 in the game while I can now.
Small gaming sessions that doesn't stress the card constantly are fine.

That's the best I can do right now.

 

I agree, it seems that working, for the game side last 1.5 hour I tried Dirt 3 again and 855/1710/1600 was perfect around 1.5 hrs, than stop but 860 core " 30 minutes only " game was 45 -47 fps and when I lover it to 855 game was 60 fps avg. so I think it just because of the stability and it s sure that 855 is best, nevertheless another reality Dirt3 DirectX11 has some problem because even in 865 core with DX9 never had problem on the game.

For the voltage side GPU almost stay at 88C and fan always working throttle stop also on which really effect system during game play

 

Hi guys,

Got interested in this thread even though I'm not an Asus user (check my sig)

Just posted in mvtech.net but I think this thread is more appropriate.
I got a X6813/MSI16F2 with a 460m @830/1660/1660 which is basically the maximum I can get right now at 0.95V. The temp, after playing few hours of MW2, got up to 75 degrees at the very maximum.

With Nvidia inspector, you can only see 0.95V for 3d and 0.8V for 2d.

In the last post on mvtech, a guy with a MSI managed to push the voltage up to 1v thanks to Saltius' modded vbios but only got 10mhz core increase which is quite sick compared to what some ASUS user get.

@Saltius Could I provide you my vbios (o/c or stock?) and find out the max frequencies?

Do you think we should reduce the memory freq while increasing the core freq ? Is it helpful ?
Will post my vbios tonight if needed !

X6813/16F2 - HM67 - i5-2410m - 2x2go Hyundai@1333 CL9 - GTX460m@830/1660/1660 v285.27 - M4 Crucial 128Go SSD

 

Try to reduce memory clocks first.
I'd try 840/1680/1500, then if you're stable try 850/1700/1500.
If your gtx acts like mine you can stay stable at 840 but not at 850, not for so long at least.

 

Of course you can. Just post your vbios on mvktech or here..I shall check it for you.

 

Saltius in relation to a VBIOS 1 Volt. I saw that for Model g53sw You posted two versions VBIOS 1 Volt.
no difference between them? which would be correct?

in tests I did here in my G73JW, I've used a 1Volt JW that you posted, is that it? or have another?


As I told you, I noticed no difference in performance with a 1 Volt. It was the same limitations as 0,962 Volts

 

285.38 "BF3" betas avaliable.
They come with a few fixes and new profiles as well.

If someone wants to install them, heres the post where ive uploaded a modded inf, with a twist. I softmodded the driver to show our gpu as GTX560m, just for fun, dont expect anything else

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...ld-lovers-nvidia-285-38-beta.html#post7943222

 

The 1v mod test vbios for G73JW is the 1st kind.
I didn't post the 2nd test version for G73JW , as it just brings blue screen.

 

Already tried 840/1600, just throttled after 30min of MW2, might try to downclock memory freq again
I will post you my vbios tonight, if I extract it with gpu-z, is that fine enough ? if not how should i proceed ?

X6813/16F2 - HM67 - i5-2410m - 2x2go Hyundai@1333 CL9 - GTX460m@830/1660/1660 v285.27 - M4 Crucial 128Go SSD

 

Weird, I can't use Nibitor, it says "Can't open service manager" and when I try as an admin "can start the driver 252" .. only way is with nvflash I guess

 

Stay away from nibitor unless Mavke doesnt add support for our mobile cards.
NVFLASH is the way to go for now.

 

okay thanks will do it today then ! I was wondering why the gtx560m user had better o/c than us whereas this 560m is a only a 460m o/c. Apparently they have the voltage up to 1v (MSI user) by default and got up to 875/900/1750 which is quite high but achievable.

Lets see after sending my vbios to Saltius !

X6813/16F2 - HM67 - i5-2410m - 2x2go Hyundai@1333 CL9 - GTX460m@830/1660/1660 v285.27 - M4 Crucial 128Go SSD

 

Well its not only an overclocked gtx460m, but also it uses a different gpu core, which is fermi gf114 instead of the old gf106.
Also memory VRAM chips are different, brand and timings are totally different.
That should quite explain why the 560m overclocks easily to 900mhz where in the best cases the 460m stops at 850.
I guess that our stable oc at 0,962 or with virtual 1,0 is around 830-40 with 1600 on VRAM.
Personally my stable is 830/1660/1620, I can do 840/1690/1600 but for an hour or less..and bench at 850/1700/1600.

 

I already got my o/c stable set a 830/1660/1660 but MSI laptop, 0.95V.
How hot is getting your laptop after several hours of gaming?

 

Topped max 85c, but thats a spike.
If I have vsync I'm in 80c range.

 

Mine spike at 77degrees after few hours of MW2 so must have some overclocking work to do !

 

My GTX460M is smashed by Battlefield 3 and is forced to play at 780MHz at v1.0 lol. Anything higher than that will lead to a sudden shutdown.

 

G73SW-A1 w/ 1v @ 860 / 1650

Furmark stable @ 90C

EDIT: stable at 875 / 1680, 880 = driver reset

 

OK, I have the g73sw-xt1

Stock bios i am able to achieve

835/1670 and 1490 on mem

i don't know what the hells goin on with the ram clock so low, everyone else im seeing is hitting 1600???

vid is readin 0.91 reaching 82c max on 3dmark06 score : 15874

it definitly seems like a voltage issue on the card side.. i can get it to take 850 clocks for a short while but not stable.

should i try for a lower voltage then the 1V mod bios?

 

Here is the 0.9625v vbios for GTX460M on G73SW.

 

@Saltius Here is my original vbios !
Hope this will work

Thanks again

MSI Barebone 16F2/Erazer X6813 - HM67 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@830/1660 - Crucial M4 128go - 2x2go@1333 Hyundai

 

Ok definitely my stable oc is 830/1660/1600.
3 hours of bf3 and 85c topped.
At 1620 memory it froze after 2 hours.
I could do 840/1700/1500 but there's no point as 830/1600 is fast the same.

 

I will tell you what I have under BF3, as soon as I will be able to join a game :s


MSI Barebone 16F2/Erazer X6813 - HM67 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@830/1660 - Crucial M4 128go - 2x2go@1333 Hyundai

 

thanks Saltius,

With the 1V bios i was able to complete numourous bench's

while i was able to complete benchs without driver crash at 870/1740/1480 mem

the best i could get out of 06 was 16166 Bench ID: 16084514
I can't get the memory anything past 1490 I tried repasting as well.. no go.

Also max temp is 81

im going to try crysis 2 at these clocks and see how long it will last. i'm guessing not too long but wouldn't it be nice.

 

update on g73sw-xt1 w/1volt bios = system power down approximatly 20min into game..

seems im having the same problem maykon is having.. games fine no driver crashing and then complete system powered off, and comes back on

trying .96v now to see results

 

Here is the mod vbios.

 

Same results, total system power down @ .96v on a sw approx 20min of gameplay.

Same clocks achievable on both .96 and 1v

 

Some results @ 900/1670 :

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G73Sw score: P10690 3DMarks P10,690 Vantage

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G73Sw score: 16318 3DMarks 16,318 3DMark06

 

What the Hell. LOL... how are you getting 900 clocks and over 1600 on memory??

im stuck at 870 and 1480 mem and its shutting down on me????

you wouldn't mind sharing your g73sw 460 bios would ya?