My Petition for getting a Creative MB upgrade on G73JH

Here's a summary of my banter with Gary thus far, some of which I've already posted in other threads:

And I finally get a reply today:

So let's see how this goes.

 

Woot. Awesome stuff Chastity.

As far as my X-Fi goes, a lot of times some of those unofficial driver packages are a lot better than the retail versions. Wish we could get a simple open one like those for our chips.

 

Add my name to this petition.

We deserve a working software suite that is suitable for windows 7. Do the right thing Asus, we've endured many problems, time for Asus to set it straight and compensate us.

 

Great initiative Chastity, supported!

 

Out of curiosity, I can't seem to locate where you would even buy this software online... anyone have the link? All I come up with is an OEM page with no way to download a trial or purchase a license.

 

Check my thread friends might tied you over or make this a non-issue

 

Of course I voted yes. My only observation is when I tested the sort of MB2 soft in my JH, it installed the following:

THX TruStudio Settings
EAX Gadget
Creative ALchemy
Host OpenAL Installer
APOIM
APOIM Support Files THX ASUS

Nothing about bass improvement, neither control panel, EQ, CMMS-3D..nothing. Just a simple panel TrueHD with on/off with a sort of EQ (non configurable) and intensity of "improvement". Sadly, this version didn't work in my system (the soft started but no effect over the sound output, and didn't recognize my realtek output, even using realtek package from JW). The only real MB2 package is the one that came with asus extreme mobos. I'll we be happy even with the Daniel-K version with is some sort certified X-Fi MB.

 

The Daniel-K modded version is the only X-Fi version installable to all win7 system. It's offers as a trial with 30-days testing. If you like it, you can buy it and this package will give you the link to the only store. In addition to buy it, you must activated online which is hardware-linked.

 

I wish I could just perpetually give you rep, Chastity. Your posts are so informative and full of gumption.

Now, take this napkin so you can wipe off all the butter I just spread upon your ego.

 

Thanks Chastity! You took the words out of my mouth. I really appreciate your efforts on our behalf.

To Gary: Please fix this! Look at the poll!

 

Woah, It should be nice if Asus give us this update...

 

Heck, if it were up to me, I would say they should accept RMA for our laptops and re-do thethermal paste job for free. I mean clearly the low temps on the JW are proof that they fudged up the JH thermal job. Fine!! ALso power differences and chip differences might be also involved, but I would be happy to game at a max of 78 or 83 unlike the current 98. AND I am scared to open up my laptop considering how easy it is to damage stuff. I recently opened up my iphone and almost messed it up. I don't want to bend the keyboard on my baby G73JH.

 

I vote yes, and it should be free!

 

So far were are 22 (100%) we want the free update... wondering if we are enough people to move asus foundation to release an update.....

 

Don't hold your breath.

 

add me.. 24 now.. it would be a joke if Asus mad us pay.. i for one would nver buy from them again.

 

Seriously? They didn't have to include any Creative stuff in the first place.

 

$10 is all I could justify, but included with my purchase was a license for a creative product that is fundamentally incompatible with the OS on which it is installed. Creative and ASUS need to work out the solution, not us. We deserve a fix, one way or another.

 

why you justify something which came wrong from the very begining?? I mean, Win7 hit the streets mid 2009, g73 released 6 month later with software not certified and we should pay for a (still) not certified version. As I explain here and others post , there is a X-Fi MB which an user as us make full win7 compatible, but creative do not support it. How do you justify pay for something without support???

 

Where are people saying the Audigy stuff doesn't work in Windows 7? So far it worked fine and now so does the hacked x-fi stuff.

 

for me works for the begining, now the program stars but no changes/improvment on sound output. EQ, CMSS or bass boot all don't work. The software is crappy: testing Audigy with realtek from jw I even LOST THE BUTTONS of the AUDIGY MB crapware.

 

I'm in for the free software that we're entitled for.

 

I'd like to have the poll text for option 3 changed (and I was the one who voted there...). It's Win7 compatible, but not Win7 certified.

 

Creatives view of "compatible" is that it runs and that is it. It is NOT compatible in regards to installing fully ALL THE TIME, with COMPLETE functionality ALL THE TIME.

How is it an install from scratch, do an image of the system, a game works and shows EAX available just fine, reimage back, reinstall the game and it doesn't show up as EAX again? Redo it three tmes more and only 1 of those 4 reimages will show it as available again.

I would call that "Incompatible" with Windows 7. Looks like if it is certified it is 100%. That is all we want. 100% operational software. And the only one out there is the complete X-FI MB2 package.

 

I voted to make it free. I was wondering why when I changed the settings for bass boost and CMSS-3d the audio sounded exactly the same. I thought it was just my ears, but now I know its the crappy software.

 

Who are the two who voted for it is fine?

 

Not me of course. Re-reading the whole darn thread one can be eckoabrams ant the other some guy call Key

 

One of those voters would be you Gary

The Audigy HD and X-Fi MB packs were designed for a 32bit OS. (If you look at Gigabyte's download page for the X-Fi MB package, it's only available for XP and Vista x86.)

If the Audigy HD package was Win 7 x64 compatible, then we wouldn't have had that whole "Creative Software Debugging" thread plus DRevan's 2.52 Redux.

Daniel_K redid the X-Fi MB package manually to update the libraries to get working x64 support and Win 7 support. However, it's not supported by Creative, and as such, neither by Asus. We would also need license keys to be compliant with Creative.

Another user here supplied a haxx0rd package of the X-Fi MB with modded drivers. I am sure Creative loves you for it , and Asus cannot look at that as a legitimate answer either. There are some users who do not risk their setups with unofficial solutions.

So the recent X-Fi MB2 package has the certified support we G73JH users require, and I'm sure Asus can work something out with Creative. I put the poll up to see if anyone would be happy with at least having the trial package made available by Asus.

 

Key is one of them, tho you are wrong on the second.

 

Ah how nice it would be to get this...
But for now im still more concerned with my keyboard missing keystrokes as half the G73JH users... And of course still waiting for an answer from Gary to my emails .

 

Well this is me personally. The speakers on this thing, and every other laptop, just suck. When I game on the go with a mic, I use a headset. I get sound on it though HDMI when I want to watch something at the GF house on the TV and when just surfing, the built in speakers are fine. If I wanted an audio based mixing laptop on the go I would have gotten an HP workstation laptop or a mac. Works fine the way it is for me

 

Audiophiles don't spend their money on gaming laptops, or if they do, they don't look for the "best price in class". That or they use external firewire-based interfaces for audio.

Don't even make the argument that the Creative software doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter to you, don't install it. For the rest of us who want our EAX back on our older titles, or to increase the bass, or heck, even for CMSS-3d for better positional audio in games, please update this package. Please give us something that supports the OS you sold us.

 

Cretive MB software, for most of the people, in higher or low level, they improve the overall sound quality. So, for ours system, as gamers, audiophiles, wherever, every improvement (even a little) is welcome. That's why we are voting for a MB2 from asus. So, stop your stupid arguments please.

 

Alright alright, let's down it down a notch gentlemen.

Agree to disagree on the usefulness all you want. I still say we bought a license along with a product, and that license isn't really being fulfilled until we get a new version of the application. I'm happy to hear that Gary is working on it, but ultimately, I think Creative will have a say, and might not agree with our argument. We need to show our support for the community by sticking together, not arguing amongst ourselves.

 

@ziddy123: CMSS-3D Headphone mode is actually a top-notch HTRF engine that replicates spatial cues very well, assuming one knows how to set it up properly. Creative acquired Aureal, and basically took their A3D code library and used it for CMSS-3D Headphone. Combine this with some really good revealing headphones, and people online will think you are a bot. Seriously, I have the kills to prove it.

TheBeast: You said "audiophile". Bad Beast... Unless you are using your 99.99999% oxygen-free interconnect to your external hybrid tube DAC and rolled a few tubes to match your Cardas-cable upgraded headphones. The sad part is that the only thing I am missing is the external DAC...

Oh, and the Margules ADE-24

 

Lol I almost misread that and thought you had all Esoteric brand amps in your car.

 

No, in that setup they are ESX Quantums. Four to be exact with each one having a differeing number of channels (one is a 4-channel, another 2-channel, another a monoblock, etc). Nice thing about these amps (besides the sound quality and power output) is that they can be configured as normal, high voltage, high current, high-voltage and high-current, individual channels, bridged, single-rail bridged and true monoblock. That is for all the amps, including the 4-channel (yes I can bridge it to a single channel monoblock running high-voltage and high-current if I wanted to). I also have 4 of the BLD drivers for feeding the amps via balanced inputs which are even more rare than the amps themselves.

My other vehicles have different amp setups, one has a set of 4 extremely rare old-school Proton amplifiers (yes they actually made car amps back in the day), another car has a set of 3 Robert Zeff designed Cerwin Vega amplifiers.

Now my Lincoln MKS, that is the only one I felt I didn't need to touch the audio system in, as it is amazingly good for a factory system. It is THX certified and sounds excellent on it's own. Sure you can't crank it because of the bass-limiting they put on the sub, but it works quite well and I could always redo just the sub, but it is fine for now. About hte only thing I may do before it gets cold is do some soun-deadening on teh rar deck to control some resonances from the sub when it gets colder. For spring/summer/fall it is fine with no resonances at all. Like I said I am very impressed with the system considering it is "factory".

 

I deleted a few posts

Stay on-topic without name calling

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

Really appreciate your effort. Hope we can see this through to a good outcome.

 

Is the mb2 software that much better than what we have now? I know I voted yes but I am next to clueless about what features the mb2 would have over the current drivers.

 

I tried what you described with MW2, i set ingame audio to 5.1, then used the creative panel to set audio to headphone with x-fi CMMS-3D enabled. I didn't notice any improvement in positionality, in fact left-right differentiation was poorer and the gunshots sounded very "sharp" and "shallow"

Btw i'm running the realtek 2.48 + X-Fi MB suite posted by TheMarkness in his thread and using Senn HD485 HPs..

Can you tell me some game in which you can really see the improvement you mentioned..?
Btw when i had the stock creative package installed, i never saw any change in quality on enabling the CMMS-3D, now with the new one i can appreciate the change although don't like it...

 

the 5.56% who don't want it must be... but seriously , Asus better give us the new Creative software.

 

bump. any word on this? searching through forums endlessly isn't helping me find an answer. sorry if this has already been answered.

 

It's still in discussion AFAIK

 

Chastity, why just for G73? It would be nice to have Creative MB upgrade for all models of Asus' laptops which had Audigy HD.

 

Because I don't care about anything that came before the G73JH?

 

same here.. totally agree... they better come out with something or i'm switching to alienware

 

Oh, come on, be a philanthropist for a bit. I have G51 and I'm interested in the same thing. I think that if owners of every other model would do their own petition about the same thing, then it would be too much. I hope that if (lol, yeah, "if") Asus will release updated Creative, then it will work for all models on which Audigy HD worked.

 

So regretting getting the G73 over the M17X.

G73 is such junk.