New G73jh-bst7

Hello brothers!=]

From what i've read here g73 requires mega treatment when brand new to function properly, but does anyone know whether this NEW model of g73 needs any massage or is it good right out of the box?

Many thanks!

 

Technically every G73 is perfectly fine out the box. You should do this though: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6812674-post2.html

Will get rid of of all the Asus garbage you most likely don't want and your machine will be much spiffier.

 

Thanks for the reply. I read your other reply to other member who has the same model as I, and her? BIOS is 211, which is you said is the latest one. Do you know what is the latest vBIOS?

 

there should be a monument put up to guy who wrote it all out in clear, practical manner. thanks for the link again

 

Sounds like we in the same boat! I just got one too and am trying to figure out all the tweaks that I need to do as well. Quite confusing but hopefully mine is ok as it is. Wishful thinking though I am sure.

 

Kuro, I get it that you strongly believe that a reinstall is always the *first thing* people should do. But what evidence do you have to support your view?

Its all very good to start going around advising people, but there are *many members* here (including myself) with far more experience than you who would argue that a fresh install is absolutely not necessary for this beast to work at 99% of its potential capacity. All he has to do is look at David's guide here, spent 10 mins uninstalling the things he doesn't want, and move on.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/380681-asus-utility-bloatware-guide.html

I for one have never needed to reinstall windows 7 at all. Granted the approach to a new G73 is largely subjective, and we can argue for hours on
end about this. But I digress. I believe I made my point.

There are more valid things you should check out of the box including:

1. Install the latest Catalyst Drivers (10.10 or 10.8)
2. Install a game (or Furmark) that you want to play (Plus the latest Direct X).
3. Install HwInfo or GPU-ID
4. Play the aforementioned Game / Furmark and monitor temps of your GPU and CPU. If the former stays under or around 90C under stress, then you've got a good machine with *decent TIM job.
5. Check for Vertical Grey Stripes Crash (Also known as GSOD). If you do notice the dreaded GSOD, follow this thread to correct it:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...492354-all-g73jh-problems-solutions-here.html

FYI: YOU DO NOT NEED TO FLASH TO THE LASTEST VBIOS, UNLESS YOU HAVE A GSOD ISSUE. Incorrectly flashing you vbios can damage you GPU.

That will be all. Good luck and enjoy your purchase.

 

Evidence? What is this a courtroom? You don't necessarily need to do a clean install, there's definitely other ways to get rid of the bloatware, I've never said otherwise. Most people just like the fresh install approach. It's a matter of preference *shrug*. I wasn't touting that as the only method, as long as you receive the same results then do what you want.

 

Now for the opposing opinion:

1) A fresh install of Windows is the best way to minimize processes and maintain the smallest size of Registry and minimal legacy entries. This, in turn, keeps Windows as nimble as possible, well, for a fat pig to be nimble. So there are benefits to doing a fresh install vs trimming down the stock install. If you were experienced as you say you are, you would know this. Also, it's good practice for people to learn how to do a fresh install. They learn how to install drivers, how to find the latest drivers, and also learn how to install and update software. Every Windows user should know how to do this, and experience it. You really do learn a lot about the OS this way; we're all not Mac users.

2) Can you please put up a bigger warning to scare off noob people from upgrading their vBIOS? There is no guarantee that you will not have GSOD's with the old vBIOS. The games you play may not have an issue, but it is also conceivable that some new game you are yet to install will have issues. Then we'll have yet another thread about how some new game keeps crashing and he doesn't know why or what to do.

Or he could update and never have this problem. It was shown during the beta testing that even the C0x units would GSOD with certain apps / games, and these were the units considered bulletproof against GSOD's. The new vBIOS was developed to address a hardware issue with the Asus card design, and they all have the issue in varying degrees.

3) 90C temps under load from games is just 100C temps just waiting to happen in about a month or so. Gaming temps should be about 80C or less.

So your statement above is erroneous about not having to update, and bad advice to boot. Besides, people should learn how to maintain their hardware. Sticking one's head in the sand and hoping to never have a problem is both ignorant and lacks forethought, and we are at war here against ignorance.

 

Chastity I went into the catalyst thread and clicked on the link in there to download the newer version. I pretty much followed the wizard menu and did the express install. It did a bunch on downloading and my screen changed settings for a second and then changed back to normal. Then it said it was finished and I clicked ok. I guess that was all I do for that then yes?

 

Yeah, I guess that's how the update goes in a nutshell.

 

righteousness achieved

 

I do believe its a matter of opinion. And just because someone does not subscribe to your view does not make them ignorant. With time people install new apps and games, which will eventually slow down their machines. Would you advise them to reinstall windows again? So we should all just periodically reinstall windows to keep it nimble?

I believe learning how to maintain your OS is a far better option than having to reinstall it every few months. A mortar for a mosquito approach is unnecessary and bull headed.

You can easily trim services that you don't want from Services.msc, and use an app like CCleaner to trim unnecessary registry entries. I am all for people gaining knowledge about their machines and OS, but I do not believe everyone has the time (or the need) to reinstall windows for their peace of mind.

Noob or not, I just gave a fair warning, something that is a part of each and
every post / guide about flashing in this entire forum. I also strongly subscribe
to the age old adage that, 'If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it, nor break it while trying to fix it'.

According to Asus, the operating temps of the GPU is said to be 100C under stress. So if it stays within 90C, I would believe that someone (who may lack experience with relevant hardware) should not be convinced (or coerced) into taking his machine apart (or RMA it) in order to repaste it. While I definitely agree with you on the fact that lower temps are better for the machine, I would not go around telling everyone to repaste their machines just because their temps are not as awesome as yours.

So in fine, I wholeheartedly thank you for your lesson in proper etiquette

 

Having owned about 30 laptops and tried all methods of optimizing and tweaking, I have to agree with Chastity here. Nothing will get your computer running faster than a fresh install of the OS. That is, after you get all the proper drivers installed and BIOS updates (if necessary).

Simply uninstalling bloatware leaves a lot of registry crap behind which is like having gummed-up fuel-injectors. Using these registry "cleaners" can be hazardous because sometimes they are TOO aggressive and will take out needed or wanted entries.

But, as someone else said, it's a matter of personal preference and how comfortable or competent you are at clean-installing. For me it's a no-brainer. With any new laptop I never even boot up the original OS -- I pull that hard drive and put an SSD in there and put Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit on it and work my way up from there installing drivers and software as I feel they are needed.

 

I share your same sentiment with the flashing of the vBIOS. Though I'm glad it's worked for so many. However, It ultimately wasn't for me.

However, as for the fresh install or not. I'd say do it, even after running pcdecrapifier, their was still a ton of crap left on the laptop.

I'd definately say go with a fresh install and yes, fresh format every 6 months.
That's just me...