New g73sw-bst6 and wow.

I recently purchased a new g73sw-bst6 and mostly use it for WOW. ON the recommended settings which is high not ultra it drops in frame rate to around 30 in areas of alot of water or trees. I'm wondering if there is a problem or if I should tweak some settings. I've read alot of posts that say wow runs on ultra on these computers but i get frame rates in the mid 20s to 30 on ultra all the time. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

(275.33 graphics driver and all updates have been run.)

Thanks alot for any ideas or sugestions

 

I would suggest returning it and buying a G73 online.

 

The BST6 (Best Buy model) has a gimped graphics card, with a smaller memory bus (128-bit). I'm not sure if this is the issue though, but it severely limits memory bandwidth.

Non-Best-Buy models have the full 192-bit bus.

You also get the low-res screen in Best Buy models, compared to full 1080p in all of the real models.

Seconded for returning it. Either buy a non-BST-model G73/G53 from Newegg/Amazon/etc, or buy a Sager NP8130/NP8150/NP8170 from XoticPC for an even better price-to-performance ratio.

 

Yes it has a lesser graphics card but Wow should play with relative ease. I'm just looking for thoughts on why it doesnt thank you for the replays though

 

Not on ultra it wont as WoW since the update has become quite demanding using a lot of shadows, SSAO, Hardware lighting, Reflection, tesselation and it struggled on my 5870M when I tried to run it on Ultra 1080p before I stopped playing.

So with the gimped 460M GTX it does not suprise me it cannot run it on ultra because the 5870M owns it.

See the difference for yourself and do yourself a favour and take back that pathetic excuse for a GPU and demand a refund.

Jan 10 http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/08/31/a3.png Sept 10 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/gtx460m.jpg

 

Holy frigging band wagon... What are we talking about in real world terms, 5-6 fps difference? I bought a best buy model and it runs perfectly fine. I really want to see some real world benchmarks done between the two.

Anyway, I run LoTRO at very high settings, aax2, 1600x900 and get 70 - 100 fps outside and 200+ inside. I would imagine even with the new xpack WoW should run at least 60fps on ultra. There has been talk of a throttling issue with the sw series. Some same simply running throttlestop in monitor only mode will fix the issue. Run wow and cpu-z, look at the processor state, what is the core speed?

 

Its pretty obvious from my post above what you lose from the 192bit version. benchmark's have shown that the GPU score is 1500 points lower in 3DMark06. Band wagon or not you are coughing up for a bottlenecked GPU with a CPU that for gaming is a waste of money because its not even breaking the seal. The 128bit 460M was out of date before it was even released as you can see from the 5870M which came out 9 months before it being more powerful than it which was the whole point of my post above explaining to the OP why his gimped card cannot handle WoW at ultra.

128bit 5870m: ROP's: 16 Pixel Fillrate:11.2gb/s Texture Fillrate: 28gb/s Bandwidth: 64gb/s Released Jan 2010

192 bit 460m: ROPs: 24 Pixel Fillrate: 16.2gb/s Texture Fillrate: 20.9gb/s Bandwidth: 60gb/s
128 bit 460m: ROPs: 16 Pixel Fillrate: 10.8gb/s Texture Fillrate: 18.9gb/s Bandwidth: 40Gb/s

It may manage to perform but if you expect to keep the laptop till 2012/2013 you are going to be running games at low/medium while the 192bit version might be handling medium/high in the same resolution. Frames may be minor now but when software requires the extra missing bandwidth and fillrate you will wish you had coughed up the extra 100 bucks.

 

I also was ready to buy BST6 but I backed out
for same money online I get real G73 with 1.5GB graphics and 1920x1080

 

CAlm down and play nice folks.

 

So is the ati card faster? it looks like it beats it in other areas then loses in some.

 

Lol... kid. I'm old, lower screen res is better for me and not really a big deal. 1 gig of vm on a 128bit bus is fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Of course 1.5 gig of vm is going to need a wider bus of 192bit. I'm just saying the realworld differences aren't as big of a deal as these forums would lead one to believe. The bestbuy model is more than capable of gaming. Is it gimped? Yea, compared to the non bestbuy version. Will it play modern games at native resolution with all the bells and whistles? Of course it will.

Now that your done showing who has a bigger di... uh... graphics card, lets get back to helping out the op... is that alright kid?

The bst6 should NOT be getting the frame rates the op mentioned. Something is clearly wrong and before you say it, no its not because its only 128bit.

 

it's fine to You but it's not better that non BB version
it will not play all modern games at high settings above 30 fps

I have non BB and on Crysis I must lower shaders to medium to stay all time above 30fps..Shaders medium vs high are good 10 fps difference.I turn them to medium and I am all time over 30 and lower 40.Remember all that at 1080 full HD not 1600.Thats a big difference also.

You can play abobe 30fps but You have only 1600.If I turn to 1600 I get almost 50 fps on Crysis.

 

Yes your correct. If the bst6 can get 30fps on crysis, surely the bst6 should be able to attain over 50 fps on wow. The bst6 460m is gimped, but the lower resolution should make up for it. The 460m being gimped and all is still a good card and should not run into any problems playing wow. The op is having a bigger problem other than the 128bit problem.

 

Therein lies the problem the lower resolution as per the 20gb/s lower bandwidth is fine but having also lost some Pixel Fillrate and a lot of texture fillrate at the same clocks.

 

total +1. i ended up buying the bst6 two weeks ago because my x205-sli1 gave up the ghost after 4 years. after a clean install of w7 ultimate x64 and loading all up to date drivers it runs everything i throw at it on high. i haven't experienced any dropped frames or lockups. (i wonder if the op is running stock gpu drivers or updated drivers from the nvidia site)

and honestly for 1200 i think i got a steal for this performance. i had to make a hasty purchase because i needed a computer immediately. i picked up my bst6 within an hour of my x205's cards dying. i am VERY happy with it.

its hilarious to me that people think that a laptop can take the place of a desktop for gaming. it is not going to happen. my laptop is fun to game on when i need to. but when i am ready to run a real session i am off to my desktop. there is no way i will be sitting near one of my desktops and decide to choose my laptop over my desktops. not gonna happen.

regardless of any of that the bst6 is a very capable machine. i don't care how many synthetic benchmarks folks throw out in real world gaming the difference is negligible. even a 192bit gpu will bottleneck the i7.

i am happy with my decision and i honestly i think i still would have picked this laptop over the other versions. 2-300 bucks is not worth it to me for the 192bit version or the 1080p display. that is 25 percent more than what i paid. and i couldn't justify that especially given my desktop setup with dual 1080p monitors.

 

I got a BST6 for nearly free and I can't complain. This thing is handling everything I play so I can't say much.