Paranoid about games performances in the next future...

yes this is what I am... and this is why I can't still make a real decision about which version of the asus ROG laptop buy: the choice is between:
Asus G53JW-3D and the G73JW, why?
Simply I do prefer stability and thus I'll avoid the JH model, I don't wanna mess up with bios or anything else...
Then the choice comes down to that,
playing at Full HD Native resolution... or playing at HD ready WITH 3D as nice plus?
I fear that soon enough the G73 won't stand up new games in full hd with max details, while the G53-3D one maybe won't do the same for 3D ones, but would still gain more FPS on the 2D games cuz of the lower resolution...
What's your thought about the bargain? I've a 1400*900 17 inch screen right now, so getting a 15.6 laptop with basically the same resolution shouldn't be bad...
I would really see the point of going in full HD anyway, specially on such "little" screen like that

Feel free to say your opinion and thanks in advance!

 

First I will adress this: The multitude of problems occured with the A series of the G73JH. I have yet to see anyone that purchased the B series with any of the complaints that plagued the A series. I have a feeling that the B series received some revamps to help prevent just exactly that.

My advice:

stay away from 3D for the time being. It is as much a gimmick as physx still is. Do you know how many games actually run physx? 77 ( Featured PhysX Titles) and how many of those are mainstream games? 6 I think I counted.

physx has been around for years now and it never really took hold. 3D looks to be in the same boat. If you want 3D capability now for playing 3D movies on an external screen then just make sure you get an Nvidia based laptop. Beyond that 3D is largely a gimmick right now.

the point of a full HD screen, even in 15.4", is to get the full effect of a bluray movie and things of that nature. gaming wise, its so you have a bigger field of view and a bit better picture.

and don't confuse 3D with 3D gaming, most games these days are 3D because they use all three axis in the game. 2D games only use 2 axis. 3D in the way you are talking about it is merely the ability to have the picture appear to use 3 axis to your eyes.

 

indeedd I'm not a true fan of the 3D myself, the choosing that model would give me something "new" and more FPS when gaming with full detail at 720p.

 

Don't forget that you can just turn down your res if you have a 1080p panel, you can never turn res UP if you have a low res panel.

this is true for all computers, the tech will always be advancing. But, we happen to be in a lame period where the consoles are at their maximum, and where game devs are producing AAA games for consoles while doing ports for the pc - in other words, until new consoles come out with new tech, at this point you really don't have to worry about not being able to play games with all the pretty details on. In another 2 years, maybe.

 

More likely 3 years, since the motion controls craze has just kicked off for MS and Sony and zero info is available about new consoles from either player.

 

Don't be afraid or paranoid. There is a limited availability of laptop GPUs, specially at these prices, so you can't really go that wrong.

You can't realistically expect to play all games at full res and settings because right now current mobiles GPUs can't anyways. Sure you can run high settings but never max nor enable all AA, AF etc etc. There are key games that will cripple you, and some like crysis that will always run slower than you would like them to, despite it being 3 years old.

However, getting a nice high end mobile GPU gives you the capability to actually GAME on your laptop. Being able to play games, even newer ones, for years to come. Sure maybe not on the high settings, but decent enough to enjoy them.

I have seen people with still nvidia 7900GTX mobile GPUs game, quite decently, despite being several years old.

 

3D isn't working out well, it cuts performance by too much.
but if you are not such a big gamer, u can use it for 3D movies too, so it's up to your personal taste

 

As a side note I have also only found 3 games so far that even support 3D. So it is even more of a gimmick as far as gaming goes atm.

 

Even when 3D becomes more mainstream, the current graphics cards are simply too weak to do a good job, esp. in a laptop.

 

Why would you be afraid of games not running? Game developers and publishers care about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And making games that run on only high end desktop PC equals = little money.

Games are all about cross platform. Cross platform = Console ports. And Consoles use equivalent GTX 7800 and ATi x1900 @ DX9. So no matter what game comes out, you can always play in DX9. And recent games have shown, the difference in visuals between DX9 and DX11 are negligible. Almost don't notice unless you knew already it was DX11 beforehand.

There is little to no worry at all, for another 3-5 years when the next gen of consoles are released. Both Microsoft and Sony are looking for 9-10 year span on the current gen of consoles.

Put it this way, Sony hasn't made a profit with PS3 yet. They will suck the life out of the PS3 for as long as they can, since they took such a huge massive loss on the Cell Processor and manufacturing costs of the PS3. Cell Processor was such a monstrous failure, IBM completely scrapped every project related to Cell Processor, gone, nada. It's outta here.

With current games, even people with GTX 8800M (overclocked), GTX 9800M, ATi HD3870M, HD4870M and GTX 260M are able to play all the latest games on high settings.

 

I like the G73 JH model with the ATI/AMD Video card.
And the JH models are running well now as it seems.
The guys here at The Fort are not having any problems with
the new ones that they are getting.
And ASUS fixed mine and it is and has been working great sense they did.
I like AMD Video cards myself and I just about only get that brand.

 

3D support is not as good for any hardcore gamers because it will decrease the performance of the game like Physx.

After a few years even with our top-of-the-line specs it will eventually become obsolete. In short, we can't help about gaming performance in the future because games upgrade their engines for graphics.

 

This is just one of the caveats when buying a gaming laptop - way less upgrade paths than a desktop. However the laptops you are looking at are both awesome performers and will give you at least 2-3 years of solid gaming performance. Sure eventually you may have to stop using high or ultra settings on new games as they come out but your laptop isn't going to stop playing them for a long time. As Ruckus said have you looked at the minimum requirements lately?

 

indeed, thanks you all guys, so you would simply suggest to get the full HD one :3
and the new JH has no problems you say? then I'll take a look again at the big ones

 

As somebody once told me, If you feel like buying it, just buy it, don't wait on technology as no matter what it will take very little time for you to be behind it again. Especially when it comes to computers, there's is always the next new thing.

So, What you need to ask yourself is, do you want to wait till 3D is more developed in games or not?

 

I have the 1600x900 model and I like it a lot, so far I am not missing the 1920x1080 as on this screen the former looks great and I get very good frame rates.
My desktop has a 1920x1200 28" monitor and two 5870's and it works great and is fast,looks awesome but I can say that if I set this G73 down beside the desktop the graphics on the Notebook still looks very good even at the lower resolution

But this is mostly up to you and how you perceive the visual display you are looking at. For me this works just fine and I can see all the detail in the games. But for some they want the larger screen as they like it better.

But for me I am sticking with the screen that I have , as I thought about ordering the higher resolution screen and installing it in this Notebook but I thought better of it after comparing the two next to each other, to me I just did not gain enough to justify the cost of the change over. But if you are ordering and the cost between the two is not that great then you will not loose by getting the larger resolution screen that is for sure!

 

You have the perfect screen right now for your GPU. Higher resolution won't do much for you anyways, because even newer games tend to have controlled FoVs that keep the format and sizes regardless of resolution.

I use 1600x900 in demanding games, while 1920x1080 on older games. To be honest, it would have been easier just to have a 1600x900 screen, specially on my 15.6 size laptop.

 

This is why I like the 3D one better, once I'm sick of 3D I know I can just spam 2D game on full detail with max native resolution... if it was 1600x900 It would have been perfect, but I think that 1366x768 can be good enough

 

FHD is so much better for productivity. If all you're doing is gaming, HD or HD+ is good enough.