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    Performance Problems? (G51 vs G60)

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Pluberus, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Pluberus

    Pluberus Notebook Evangelist

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    Alrighty, I actually have a problem that's not heating related. :D (Well, I don't think it is.... :rolleyes: )

    Anyways, I get low FPS (20s) in Global Agenda and Bad Company 2 on my G51vx-rx05, while my friend, can run both games on medium or high with much better frame rates.

    Only problem is, his rig is basically identical to mine excluding the processor. He has the G60-rbbx05.

    HIs processor is the P7450 while mine is the P7350. I don't understand why that makes such a drastic performance difference.

    Am I missing something?

    Also, I'm the tweak freak between us two. I turn off unnecessary processes, etc. He does none of it.
     
  2. Pluberus

    Pluberus Notebook Evangelist

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    No ideas?

    I'm in the process of completely reformatting/clean installing W7. I'll let you know how that goes.
     
  3. Joseph@XoticPC

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    That would be my normal recommendation. Have you run HWmonitor to see what your temps are? Which driver are you using? Maybe run a synthetic benchmark 3dmark06 or Vantage and post the scores.

    Also do you know for sure that you both are running identical settings as well? Really those two computers are nearly identical. The CPU difference surely isnt enough to make the type of difference that you suggest.

    Run a few benchmarks after you get your clean install and let us know how its running.


    Good luck!

    Joseph
     
  4. Pluberus

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    Ya, I'm sure his PC is a G60-rbbx05.

    I'm using Nvidia 256.21 drivers

    At the moment:
    CPU - 55C - After 3 minutes of Orthos I hit 75C :(
    GPU - 68C - Minute of Furmark makes me hit 98C+

    My laptop is propped up with a cooler. I have added copper blocks, replaced stock paste with Arctic Silver 5 and drilled holes in the backplate. Unsure of my ambient temp, but pretty warm (75C+?)

    Oh, and I finished reformatting and my performance is worse. lol. Need to reapply my tweaks now. ^^

    My windows experience index is 5.5, his is 5.7 (processor is better).

    3DMark06 Score:
    8508 3DMarks.

    CPU Score: 1715
     
  5. Pluberus

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    Still havent' figured anything out. :(
     
  6. paperbag846

    paperbag846 Notebook Consultant

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    Two ideas:

    I had problems with my framerates and those drivers you mentioned when I used the Powermizer Manager. It locked my GPU at 2d clocks on AC power when I set it for max power saving on battery. I do not know why, but changing both AC and Battery to "adaptive" fixed the issue.

    Also the NVIDIA driver setting to force ambient occlusion on can mess up some games. Switch it off, and then apply ambient occlusion per game. I have no played those games so I do not know if this could be an issue.

    Check your power settings. Do you use power4gear? Make sure you are running at max performance / 100% when you test your game. Also, in windows power settings ensure that your processor performance is set to "active cooling" and 100%.

    You either disabled a service which is messing you up (VERY UNLIKELY) or you have an Nvidia setting which is limiting you (either a powermizer setting or a 3d quality setting), or you are artificially limiting your processor inadvertently.

    I'm a tweaker myself - I know how hard it is to remember every little thing you have changed.

    To start, check out power4gear/windows power manager, and then set nvidia 3d quality to "balanced" and see if that clears things up. If it does, change the Nvidia settings one at a time, to max out your quality.

    If it does not work, I'd get powermizer manager and see what's going on there. You can monitor your GPU clocks with CPU-Z.
     
  7. Pluberus

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    Thanks for the awesome reply. +Rep

    My PowerMizer is set to Max Perf./Min Power save when on AC power. Adaptive doesn't throttle up for me very well. GPU-Z confirms that my card is clocked to 500/799/1250 when on AC Power.

    Nvidia Ambient Occlusion is set to off. Windows power setting are on High Performance, and CPU can/will go to 100% (1.99 GHz - Stock Clocks).

    Don't use Power4Gear.

    I tried OCing to 2.3GHz for a bit (I'm scared of temps, still not sure what allowable temps for my CPU are), and I got maybe 2 or 3 fps improvement? Not really worth it for the temps.

    Not sure what else to do. I've tried forcing everything off that decreases performance in Nvidia Control Panel (Disabling application-controlled settings), and didn't see much improvement either.

    Its really weird because my friend doesn't tweak at all and he's getting better framerates in BC2 and GA then I am while the only difference in his rig is the increased screen size and 2.1GHz C2D CPU.
     
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    48 hour bump.

    No one has any other ideas? I guess I'll just try and be patient for a price drop on the t9900. :D