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    Problem with Light function and turbo boost?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Franchais, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Franchais

    Franchais Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi i was just wondering why i couldnt see my turbo boost and light function because it will usually be displayed on the screen. It still works but its hard to tell if i have my boost on or not. Can anyone help me? thnks
     
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    Oh the laptop im using is the Asus g73Jw. Can anyone help me? thanks
     
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    Do you have the turbo boost gadget on your desktop? And are you in high preformance or entertainment mode? As I believe quite office and battery saver turn it off.

    Go to your desktop, hold the right mouse button down, and move the cursor over the desktop back and forth very quickly lol i know this isnt very scientific but if if you have the gadget, it should show turbo boost working. If you dont have the gadget, and the rectangle seems to be lagging, then turbo boost is likely off.

    And im not sure what your referring to when you say light function. You mean the keyboard lights?
     
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    Everything is working fine, but i just cant see it being activated. Its when you press the lighting button and the turbo boost button on the top left hand corner of the Asus g73jw there will usually be an indication or a graphic that comes out on the screen saying turbo boost on, All Lights On/Off. But now when i hit those buttons nothing appears on my screen so i was just wondering what went wrong. The functions still works, but it can be quite annoying when you're not sure if you turn the Turbo boost.
     
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    oh...your talking about twin turbo mode, not turbo boost. Turbo boost is a tech by intel on your i7...twin turbo mode is an overclocking feature built in by asus controlled by power4gear

    you do have power4gear installed right
     
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    Oh my bad :/. Yeah its twin turbo mode. I do have power4gear. Do i have to reinstall it or something?
     
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    Well I would try reinstalling it yes, if that doesnt work, then there might be an update for it that you need, most likely on asus's website

    Edit: oh, id also check your bios, if it says turbo, that means your computer boots into twin turbo mode and that might also be why you arent seeing it, changing it to normal means the computer will boot normally (obviously right lol) and you can activate twin turbo mode afterwards. Check both out
     
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    Not scientific, but surprisingly effective. Quick question, I asked this the other day, didn't get a response. I do get the indicator saying turbo disabled/enabled, and yet it seems my T-turbo mode is on no matter if it says enabled or disabled. My benchmarking always produces the same results either way, and also reports that my processor speed is 1.86 (is the Q740 1.73) It also reports that dynamic overclocking/turbo is engaged at both settings as well. It is set to normal in bios, not turbo.. Any idea what may be happening/causing this? I understand that when turbo is engaged, many games will suffer instead of being enhanced by this and thermal limit on cpu. Would love to have a better idea of what is happening?

    Thanks!
     
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    What is it about moving mouse on desktop that makes turbo show up? How can I know if it's working or not? tks
     
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    Hmmm odd since 1.86 is the speed of my 840, sure you dont have that, by some fluke? Anyways, which power4gear profile are you in? Check to make sure the minimum state of the processor isnt too high, as that may be whats keeping your processor clocked higher, and perhaps mimicking TT mode...not sure, sorry. And if your concerned about it hurting your games performance, why not just uninstall p4g?

    Well as far as I know, most of the g73's should come with the i7 (or i guess i series) turbo boost gadget...if you have that on your desktop, do as I said in the other post and you should see it...or even move many large files back and forth between your hdds...or open one single large ppt (these are all just things that can require more cpu power, and since our i7's are clocked so low without turbo boost, most of the time they will engage it to get a task done)

    as to why dragging the cursor/rectangle back and forth on the desktop quickly, makes turbo boost active...my best guess would be that such a task isnt hardware accelerated (aka using the gpu), and since our screens are such hi res (many pixels to refresh) and we are moving the cursor so quickly, turbo boost has to be used to accommodate the action...this is why without turbo boost enabled, the rectangle you create by dragging the cursor around the desktop, will appear to be lagging behind the cursor
     
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    Appreciate the response. I don't know why it's reading higher. IDs as 740, but in benchmarks, reads as 1.83, attached cpu data. Reads this way no matter what I change. My performance seems good, but I really have nothing to compare to. Get ~13000 on 3dmark06, reads cpu speed as 1850, cpu score is 3341, seems pretty poor.

    Don't have any option in bios to display mult/bclock as far as Ive been able to see. Been a few yrs out of pc tech, so not sure how accurate the info is, but turbo gadget always reads jump to 1.87 before it goes higher, same as other tools. temps seem fine, fm reads max of 86c under full load, cpuid reads max of 69c. Running on 211 bios and 8.683 cat dvr. Tried updating but system got completely unstable, restored back to this after, it's what I had stock. Not sure if it's worth it to try updating vbios, since I don't have any issues like gsod atm. Don't fix what aint completely broke, right? May have to remain in dark on this one unless someone has a better idea of what may be going on, or thinks my performance is way off and could really improve.
     

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    Hmm that 3dmark score seems correct. Mine was mid-high 14000's, and the cpu score was only about 4000 i believe.

    you say the turbo boost gadget registers it at 1.87 then jumps? as in its always at 1.87? when you were in the bios, were all the intel technologies enabled (TB, virtualization, speedstep, ect)? Also your temps seem fine, maybe just a tad on the high end, as my cpu has never gone into the 80's, not even high 70's as far as I know. As for your bios and drivers, if you tried updating and had instability, thats what the vbios is for lol even if you didnt crash, they are indeed more stable for the vast majority of people, its up to you on whether or not you want to update those, since its highly unlikely it will fix your apparent cpu problem. Btw, you didnt mention any of your p4g settings, and are you able to hit your max of 2.93 at all? It sounds to me like your always at one speedstep higher then you should be, or your fsb is slightly faster then normal.
     
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    Good to hear the 3dmark score sounds within proper range. Hard to get good comps, most scores are desktops. Not good to hear my temp is high already, since I have only had this for 4 days now. I'm keeping an eye on it, since I have read so much about the issue. CPU sits idle at 1.73, then as it ramps up, I will almost always see it go to 1.87, then go higher after that, 2.4, 2.6 etc.. If I take the mouse and do light loops on desktop, it will just show that little jump to 1.87. If I really stretch the box out, it will fly through the 2000's, none of which seems bad, just strange that it tends to always hit the 1.87.

    P4G settings are all max at both entertainment and high perf. Just rechecked bios, and overclock is set to normal, intel virt., vt-d and tdt are enabled. Didn't see TB or speedstep.

    As for vbios, I am honestly a good bit scared to try, as I have seen others who ended up with bricks, and really can't imagine having to rma this thing for weeks or longer when I have just gotten it. Already annoyed that my gpu is likely going to be junked when tim wears out, and I'll have to re-paste.

    Do you think I have enough gains to be made to warrant updating the vbios? It is annoying using the old cat drivers, even the benchmarks won't read a lot of my results as they don't report correctly. Not sure if my cpu is hitting max, is their a way I can measure this?

    Thanks again for your responses, much appreciated.
     
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    Man Im sorry, im stumped. Idk how to address your first two paragraphs with anything I havent already said. I guess I would just keep an eye on it

    As for the vbios concern, I share your fears, Ive already done it once, but want to do it again with my own custom vbios (cant take all the credit of course, as I just modded anothers) but am afraid I will be unlucky this time. If I were you, I would establish exactly what you want and only do it once. Considering CCC 10.10 give a 5-8% increase in performance for the mobility 5800 series, and thats coming from 10.8 which already have a similar performance increase over the stock asus drivers, I would say the performance increase alone is worth it (unless you never really do anything demanding, then dont worry about it.), also establish if you want to use a custom one, or the newer one provided by gary.

    I believe Cinebench10 will help you with determining whether or not your cpu is hitting its max speed correctly, it can even help you test the different turbo modes (quad, dual, single core) and hyper threading, and in doing so, with another app, temps.
     
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    Thanks again. I've already put together most of a usb drive with bios updates. Haven't done this before with usb. Done boot discs in past, but when I use the util on this usb, nothing gets loaded in to make this bootable. I have just copied and pasted the dos files straight in, the entire folder. Hope it doesn't need it all unpacked already at root level. Guess I could just set them both ways, just don't want any confusion..

    Now customizing the vbios, that doesn't bring about more confidence with me ;) I just spent about 5 hours yesterday bringing myself back up to speed with all of the graphics tech in last 4 years. Do you know of a thread or link that would have a detailed review of that info? I likely wouldn't be looking to do anything very specific, but would put in the time to read up on it, and that would help me feel better about it. Tom's Hardware just ain't what it used to be... shame really. Trolling around misc sites now for info.

    DLing Cnebench 10 now, I'll let you know what the results are, interesting. I was able to see on the turbo meter that when running full out, it was reading 2.8 straight up. Very curious now.