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    ROG Strix GL503 and GL703 gaming laptops

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by hmscott, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. hmscott

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    GL503V(GTX1050) Review By D2D

     
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    The 503 seems decent from Dave's video. Not sure how I feel about the price, though. You can get a full 1060 for 1300$ in the form of the 502VM.
     
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    The design on this new one is terrible. The GL502VMK Titanium looks much better and classy. I don't know why Dave is saying "Wow, finally a laptop that's not black and red" when Asus already released the Titanium version, which is not even black like 90% of gaming laptops. Anyway the GL503 screen, even if color accurate, doesn't have G-Sync, and the GTX 1050 is totally useless for the price. It's even worse than the 970m, who the hell would buy that in ending 2017?

    Honestly I was expecting much more from the 503, such as better speakers, better cooling solution and a color accurate panel with G-Sync, or at least a 4K panel.
     
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    I like the look of the 703 but why would Asus use a 1050? I know the 1060 models will be out soon but couldn't they at least have used a 1050ti?

    I hope Asus is using a different thermal solution on the 1060 models or it's DOA in my book.
     
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    G-sync would have crippled battery life. What's the point of a portable device if it can't last more than 2 hours on battery. Without G-sync, you're seeing battery life around 6 hours (+/- 30 minutes depending how hard you're pushing your productivity and browsing). If they had opted for G-sync, they'd be looking at 2-2.5 hours of battery. I'm very much happy they decided to not go with G-sync and enabled Optimus. As for the 1050, yep, it's expensive. But I wonder whether the prices will get dropped soon or whether the 1050 models will be bumped up to 1050 Tis
     
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    Not really. I have the GL502VMK with G-Sync and I am able to reach 3-3.5 hours of battery while browsing and listening music on YouTube. As Dave said, the 503 one (with Optimus) goes around 5 hours at 250 nits, so it's just a 1.5-2 difference but you get a better tech that it's a game changer, expecially when your fps will inevitably go to 45-50 but it will look smooth as 60. Now I don't have to go crazy with programs running with Intel integrated card and I can even use Nvidia DSR. Also, battery will decrease over time anyway. G-Sync won't.
     
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    Dave also claimed that the 502VT gets 3 hours of battery. Meanwhile, my machine lasts for at least 5, often 6. I've kinda stopped paying attention to his battery statistics because there's something off with his testing. Also, 250 nits means 80% brightness off the screen on the 503. If you tone it down to 50-60%, you're looking at 6 hours or more. If you go to 40%, you're going to hit 7 hours. It also depends on the G-sync range of the panel. But at 1080p/60, I still find G-sync pointless and useless in laptops.
     
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    I had the 502VT too and yes, Dave stated that the VT goes at 3.5 hours with regular use and he's correct.
    Sure, you can get 6 hours with 50% brightness as well, it's basically what Dave said about the GL503 getting 5 hours at 80% (the battery is the same).
    If you don't trust him, I think Notebookcheck resumes it pretty well:

    GL502VT: WiFi Surfing v1.3 - 5h 56min
    GL502VM: WiFi Surfing v1.3 - 3h 40min
    GL502VM: Big Buck Bunny H.264 1080p - 3h 55min

    Now considering that you get G-Sync, it's a nice trade-off with just 1.5-2 difference.

    I used to say the same as you before trying a G-sync panel, but trust me, G-Sync it's a game changer even at 1080p/60, we're talking about gaming laptops and not business laptops that need to run 7 hours on battery at office. In some years the battery will decrease no matter what while you will definitely benefit from G-Sync when your GPU won't be enough to support newer games at solid 60 (without screen tearing or stutter).
     
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    NBC basically disproves Dave's video. Also, 2.2 hours is about 40% here (goin gfrom 3.4 to 6.0). That's massive for anyone who spends a lot of time on the go. For me, it's the difference between it being usable in Uni and not.
     
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    NBC? Who is he?
    Anyways, most people here, on NBR - worried for the heat and system noise more, then a battery life. Just saying.
     
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    NoteBookCheck :) - their listings are a lot more than what Dave listed and, based on my own usage, they are correct.

    Thermals seem okay on these, though.
     
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    Why dont you list the VS models? All of the info is available here:

    http://laptopmedia.com/comparisons/...ero-and-scar-edition-what-are-the-differences
     
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    120Hz IPS? Sign me the hell up. Brb, selling kindey.
     
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    The only thing I would have liked on the GL502 is the white lettered keyboard. Even white keyboard backlight is 100000x better than this hard-to-see red light and red letters.

    and hdmi 2.0, and optimus.

    I hate 60hz gsync. I'd rather have an extra 3 hours battery life.
     
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    I'd like someone to make a Laptop with Yellow or Blue backlights. Those are much more soothing and make people calm. Red makes people agitated and aggressive if I remember my psychology semester correctly.
     
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    red does make me agitated.... cuz i can't see the damn letters without the backlight on. Whoever started the trend should be smacked upside the head.

    White letters with white backlight were always the best. Can see it even with the backlight off.

    red/black, blue/black colors don't have enough contrast.
    Another stupid color combo is white/silver. Like the UX501.
     
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    I think the red backlight trend got started by the Y500 in 2012. Though I may be mistaking. It's either that or some MSI laptop that I am forgetting.
     
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    Err... it's not 3 hours battery life more if you check at NBC testings. It's 2.5 and in 1 year or 2 it will probably decrease, depending on how much you use the laptop on battery.
    Why do you hate 60hz gsync? If you're a gamer you can't hate that. Not everyone can afford a 120hz screen on a laptop, but in any case, even the 1070 mobile is not able to reach 120 in the latest AAA games at high/ultra settings 1080p, so in both ways gsync helps quite a lot and 2.5 hour difference is not as much to make you say "am fine playing games with tearing and stuttering, but at least I can stay 2 more hours on battery".

    I agree for the keyboard but I don't even look at it when I text so it's not a huge problem for me. At least it's not glowing (like the orange letters on the 502 black version).
     
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    they confirm GL503 Scar Edition will use 144hz panel and up-to GTX1070, the processor will be intel 7th 7700HQ or core i7 8th gen ?

    [​IMG]
     
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    144hz paired with a 1070 is an absolute joke and a waste of money.

    Asus knows this. They just figure they can rip off unsuspecting customers.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
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    hmI don't necessarily agree. There is older games that people play competitively that will play fine on a 1070. Counterstrike Go being the biggest one that comes to mind.
     
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    I don't agree. If you back off from ultra settings, even moderately demanding games like Tomb Raider can get above 144fps on a 1070, especially at 1080p.
     
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    Yes, if you play CS then you may benefit from the 144hz display but why in the world would you want to crank down the visuals to medium on a single player game like Tomb Raider? I'd much rather play Tomb Raider on high settings at 110fps or even Ultra settings at 95FPS.

    But hey, if you're a Doom or CS player and you think the extra $200 is going to be worth it for 144hz then go for it.

    Also, I can't wait to see what the thermals are like with a 1070 and a 144hz panel in this chassis. Welcome to throttle city.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
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    Not necessarily, they could have opted for a 1070MQ (as many other OEMs). It would be sad but make sense.
     
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    ROG Strix GL503/GL703 – Quench Your Thirst For Victory | Republic of Gamers

    ROG Strix GL703 Unboxing – Quench Your Thirst For Victory | Republic of Gamers
     
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    Only during stress tests apparently. Witcher 3 produces good thermals and the battery life is not bad. Though the 1060 model may need an extra heatpipe.
     
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    They say that del xps 15 stay cool, not the gl703!
     
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    The XPS 15 has known heat issues (VRMs reaching 120*C and such) and cannot hold base clock. Not sure why says it runs cool but they're obviously wrong.
     
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    Asus ROG GL703vm (gtx1060) SCAR EDITION (for FPS) review by d2d

     
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    The temperatures on the Fire Strike benchmark seems to be way better than the temperatures I had on the GL702VM, that's a good thing!
     
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    How come it doesnt have G-Sync?
     
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    Maybe becouse it has a 120Hz screen... Somebody prefer a 120Hz screen over a 60Hz with G-Sync.... I'm not an expert on this aspect
     
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    You can have a 120hz screen and gsync. My gl502vs has it. I would guess it's to try and save on battery life, but the gl503vs (scar edition) has a 144hz screen with gsync.
     
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    having a 120hz screen doesn't mean gsync is unnecessary. It's more necessary, because many games won't hit 120fps on High, and the screen refresh needs to slow down.

    I think Asus just forgot to put it in. No Optimus, no Gsync, is like laptops from 2009.
     
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    Obviously that's right, but this is if you don't care about price.... if you have to keep the price low, you have to choose, and that is what I was saying in my previous message... Maybe they chose to keep the price lower and focused on just one aspect...

    By the way, I just found out that the normal Strix version of this laptop (not the Hero or the Scar) has soft-touch finish... why the hell they're still using that sh*t? They ruined the laptop -.- ... So the only good finish is on the Scar version, wich haven't got the IPS panel I preferred, sigh...
     
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    soft touch finish is only the Best Buy version.
    I hate soft touch because they inevitably deteriorate and become sticky after several years.
     
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    Any reviews on the gl503vs-dh74 yet? Is the 144hz IPS or TN? Sellers aren’t displaying consistent results.
     
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    Is that the one with 1070? How are the temps and the screen?
     
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    Hello guys, asking for help to choose!
    I'm confused between three options, I really like 17' screens and the 1070 is much better in the long run.

    rog gl503VS: 1070 but 15 inches

    rog gl703VM: 1060 and 17 inches

    rog gl702VS: 1070 and 17 inches but bad keyboard layout and back-lighting and terrible thermals

    I don't care about the price, weight and design and I it must be ASUS to pick from. Shall I compromise the screen size for the performance or get a 1060 and wait 5 years to switch again or pick the old model and live with terrible keyboard ?

    I use my laptop as a desktop replacement and my usage is browsing the net, watching tons of media and coding from time to time. Your opinions are highly appreciated.
     
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    Personally - I see no point in a 1070 since when next gen drops it will be just as outdated as the 1060. Look at the 960M and 970M - both are equally outdated now.
     
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    It gets warm under extended load, but nothing crazy. The screen is nice, and you only really see backlight bleed when you're starting the computer up, it's fairly nice for what it is. I don't have any complaints.

    Yes, but according to nvidia, they won't be dropping new cards for a while, since they consider pascal to be the cream of the crop for the foreseeable future. Probably not till late 2017 early 2018. In the meantime, we'll probably just get refreshes.
     
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    So a couple things. Based on what you're saying you'd use it for, it honestly doesn't seem like you would need a gaming laptop. Even if you did want to stick with asus, you could always go with the zenbook line, and get a more premium feel for your money. Also the thermals on the 502/702 are just fine, nothing amazing but good for what it is. Lastly, if you're dead set on a gaming laptop, but don't care about the weight, the 752 series should have some good sales going for it this week with black friday, and everything about that is computer is damn good. You should be able to get it pretty cheap compared to normal.
     
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    There is always something right around the corner, but in this case I tend to agree. I don't think buying top end or right now is a very good idea. Intel will be releasing 6 core mobile CPUs sooner rather than later, and we might even see yet another Paxmaxwell refresh with the latest rumors. If you don't NEED a laptop today, wait 6 months with current config. Pascal has been out a very long time.

    That said even a 970m is still a very capable 1080p gaming laptop. The 1070 is a total beast in most games, including those AAA titles. If the price difference is small like sub $150 get the 1070 vs the 1060, it crushes it.
     
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    Could anyone verify if the new GL703VM variants have 120hz + gsync? And is the panel model N173HHE-G32 (CMN1747)?
     
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    You can wait six months or longer to buy an updated Pascal laptop, but then you're stuck in the exact same situation because the new Volta cards might come out in another six months.
     
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    Yeah no. The pascal jump was big but don't expect another one of those for a few years. Intel is just adding more cores. It doesn't mean much for gaming right now and probably not that much more in the future.
     
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