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    Regarding my brothers ASUS

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Trickster29, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. Trickster29

    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    My brother has a G750jx (the one with the 770M) it's 770M is running really hot even on stock clocks if I open the thing and repaste it with IC Diamond will Asus void the warranty I know Alienware doesn't but ASUS I'm not sure about so I'm looking for advice from other ASUS owners
     
  2. Clintlgm

    Clintlgm Notebook Consultant

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    Yes you will void your warranty, And yes it sounds like that is what need to happen, to get your GPU temps back to normal. You might want to take it to a certified repair shop that you trust to handle it and maintain your warranty. Otherwise RMA it.
     
  3. Trickster29

    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I was thinking it would -.- is there like a warranty sticker in there....I never liked Asus :| of course our money man never listens :p so he bought 2 nightmares for Christmas his which was dead out of the box and my brothers which is too hot I was just playing diablo III with him and his is at 80 to 85C and my 2 780Ms are at <62C I have no idea why his is so hot if I ask a shop to repaste the 770M with ICD will they do it
     
  4. Clintlgm

    Clintlgm Notebook Consultant

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    You have two choices, if this was a Christmas present then It would still be in the Return to vendor as defective window? Otherwise RMA it support.asus.com/ServiceHome.aspx?Language=en

    rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.hp?46-g75-g55amp-G46-series-notebooks you can register in the ROG forums and get some more direct information however your choices remain the same.
    1. Return to the vendor for replacement or Refunds t is defective
    2. RMA it to ASUS Repair
    3. Attempt it yourself and void your warranty It not that hard to accomplish however should the GPU or Motherboard Be defective you will not have warranty to have it replaced these GPU are proprietary You can't just go buy a new one

    Sorry for some reason this forum will not allow me to past in links I hope I typed them in correctly if not just goggle for them
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would use the store you got it from since they are who you bought it from and it's so new.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    80-85C isnt too hot while under load and gaming, those are normal temps and right where they should be. Your 2x 780M <62C is amazing! I've never heard of temps that low while gaming.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's true, those are astounding temps if under proper load.
     
  8. villiansv

    villiansv Notebook Guru

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    80-85 while playing D3 is, however, hot compared to a properly pasted 770M (JX owner here). Under stock clocks, you shouldn't be going over 75 ever while gaming, I usually max out at 72, including D3.
    Yes, it's not dangerously hot, but in my opinion it's an at best mediocre paste job.

    As for 62 max 780Ms.... do you play in a walk-in freezer? I don't want to hear the fans of the beast that keeps those so low :)
     
  9. Clintlgm

    Clintlgm Notebook Consultant

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    80-85 C Temps would be normal running Furmark 1080 full screen for a 15 minute Burn in test. High 60's would be normal for a G75 in hard gaming I don't think the G750 are that much different.
    My Guess is he will be throttling if he tries running Furmark!
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Not trying to start an argument but those are very normal temps for a notebook while gaming. Furmark usually gets up to 92-97C. The Asus G series do have some of the lowest temps out of pretty much all gaming notebooks but you're stilling going to heat up that card while its under load, however they are designed for those temps.
    If you feel that temperature is too higher for your liking you should return it.
     
  11. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Not sure how OP configured his but I can keep mine (also 2x 780M) <60 C if I cap the FPS to 60 and use 8x MSAA. If I turn off AA completely then it barely hits 50C when gaming. This was with Sleeping Dogs btw.

    Oh should probably mention I'm using a Clevo P370SM.
     
  12. Trickster29

    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you everyone :)) sadly in on my iPhone and will have a hard time independently quoting everyone xD

    However now it's shutting down because of heat in saints row the third

    And thank you ^^ I have no idea how my alien runs so cold ether

    What I really wanna do is sell it on eBay and get him a Alienware 18 however the money man is the only flaw he's not gonna let me sell it XD

    And I'm just worried if I RMA it...it won't come back with the problem fixed

    I like Alienware cause u can open it and not get yelled at by the warranty later I have no idea why the money man went with a brand that doesn't even have a OS restore disc and the windows 8 native reset my PC doesn't work if Your hard drives dead not even with the flash drive and the key is considered retail so u can't download a ISO from Microsoft the money man had to buy a whole new copy of 8 cause we swapped his drive to a Samsung Evo

    My brothers 770M is amazingly slow even my old pair of 460Ms scored better even when the 770M was unlocked and overclocked and overvolted it's really depressing
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Walk in freezer XD no and the fans are barley audible :p
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Normally the cards are running max settings in all games sometimes with only a single card like in saints cause it doesn't like SLI meaning that 1 780M is at 99% usage (as EVGA P X says)

    I say normally cause if I find a game they can't run on max this post won't be wrong XD so far I have yet to find out

    As for the 4.5ghz overclock on the 2920XM it can run 4.4 to 4.5ghz constant 1 Celcius from shutdown so I'm just glad the cooling capacity barly meets it XD
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Actually it's bad for cards to run at 90 C or higher ruins there life span

    However I would agree with you on smaller notebooks and smaller g cards (750M 650M etc) there embedded on the board and the manufacture must do something to them so they work ONLY with there machine there for it must be optimized for the machines temps

    However anything x60 and above is normally a MXM card kinda like a desktop card snaps in there for the manufacture doesn't often touch it

    I know some of the 650Ms memory clocks varied by notebook to notebook with the max of 4000mhz and the min of 1800mhz something like that my other brother has a HP Envy DV7 with a 650M love the hp restore method and alienwares alright just have to install all the drivers after but ASUSs doesn't have a official way and M$ way doesn't work without the original drive

    My 650M brother runs saints on max and his thing gets pretty hot however doesn't shut down even when the fan isn't even trying so yes your right about the x50 and lower
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    If I could refund it that be perfect I can get my brother what he originally wanted (his list specified ALIENWARE JUST LIKE [insert my name here :p] but money man cheaper out and said they were overpriced and they are however they work and they let u open it and use it as u wish unlike most companies and most people know if it has a Alienware logo on it most of the time it's faster I'll have to talk to him about it

    Even the bare basic AW 18 should be better then that 770m

    I can even bargain with AW over the phone and get 770M SLI for 2000
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Lots of perceptions of the desktop world just don't translate over to the notebook world.
     
  18. Arog

    Arog Notebook Consultant

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    I believe him, I mean that laptop is quite a big tank of a form factor, if I paid 3k for a big 18 inch laptop that didn't cool well, I'd be pretty pssed off.

    Hey what is the 770M scoring and what benchmarks are you using? I'd like to compare and run some tests to see how it fairs against my OC'd 660m.

    Just change the paste seriously. Warranty is only a year any way. I've repasted both my gpu and cpu with mx-2 on the G46 and it was well worth it. I'd recommend it if you think you can do it.

    Personally my main gripe with G series laptops is how the fan speeds cannot be changed. Even with an unlocked bios I cannot control the fan speed...change the trip point values doesn't help at all...it appears that the fan control can only be modified at the hardware level on the g46 any way. If I was going with a 17 or 18 inch laptop, which I have no desire to, it would be an Alienware because I'm an enthusiast and the ease of upgrading and overclocking is fully supported. These are things your brother should have thought of before his purchase.

    But I think for those who don't see themselves upgrading, the Asus G series line is the right choice as the form factor, design, and thermal/noise levels cannot be touched for the most part. My laptop for instance is noiseless at idle especially with the ssd, I can't even hear it at all, and I've actually made the mistake of thinking it was off when it was actually on, and that is with my laptop at an arms length away. I have very sensitive hearing as well which is kind why I had to move away from desktops, my last desktop had two radiators and still a bit loud for my taste. Does your brother tavel at all? If he did travel at all, the G75 would be the right choice in that case.
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    My brothers under 18 so no XD he's just the bro I come to my parents house sometimes and game with ;) or wake up in my parents house hint hint......I am the admin of the house and the geek of it....the money man is my dad....connect the dots :p......I am 16 about to be 17 my brother is 12....... I could change the paste but I'd rather give him an Alienware plus my dad says the warrenty is 3 years he is considering returning them :)

    I'll grab the score hold on

    Here's the score without any overclocks completely untouched 770M

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1220223
     
  20. Arog

    Arog Notebook Consultant

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    At your age I was playing varsity basketball, oblivious to thermal paste, video cards, cpu, etc., barely took a typing class in my senior year in High School. Didn't really find my geek self until after a few year later. That's cool though to be tech savvy so early. I find that the younger generation these days are very tech savvy, you almost need to be these days it would seem. You got 10 year olds teaching their parents how to use tablets, it's funny.
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    Believe me I hate my generation XD there not smart at all at least where I live XD

    Just revealed the result so the link would work sorry about that

    My generation just knows how to teach cause they use it early they don't actually know all the tech specs I find myself jailbreaking my moms iPhone so she can have her text bubble pink or forwarding ports on the routers working on all the pcs in the house suggesting buys of pcs building PCs my gen just uses them however after using them they don't even know how to talk correctly in .....other words they use know instead of now -.- ......or even be mature enough to partake in forums with rules that's are generation for you I hate being a part of it however I am I just choose to surround myself with people who are not the bad of my gen or the older gens

    I will be telling you how the refund goes dads refunding his too I'm gonna see if we can get his windows 8 working properly again as if it's untouched
     
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    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    How can you get the AW18 with 770m SLI for 2k? I would bite on that. What do I say to them on the phone?
     
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    You can head over to the AW forum to get the best advice.

    I'd probably stick with a single 780M setup over 770 sli though.
     
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    Trickster29 Notebook Consultant

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    @Talon
    XD u can't however I got it for 2500 cause were buying two 100$ off the 2600 I guess :p
    @Meaker
    I prefer SLI SETUPS over single cards due to I've always received better proformance from SLI SETUPS regardless if there x50s x60s x70s x80s vs there single card counter parts however my dad is still deciding which to get I've told him to stay away from 765M SLI due to its based on the Fermi Architecture and not kepler
     
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    Well that's odd as scaling is only around 60-70% and you get increased frame time variation, it makes sense when you can't get a single card that's faster (I have 2x780M in SLI) but until that point a singe card is more consistent.
     
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    Yea I get increased frame time by a couple MS and even then it's above 60 fps I don't have a plasma display with 600hz so it does preform better in my book plus if we get SLI (we can only get duel card SETUPS with the 18) with the 770M he'll get about 180% better then his ASUS as well as that if we ever wanted 780M or the so powerful rebranded 880M we can upgrade it later.....I feel bad for people who waited I mean 8GBs of ram is overpowered for a Gcard ESPECIALLY on a laptop it's not like I'm driving 8 displays or anything maybe 4 but a gig per display sounds like enough

    You know what I was doing this morning XD I walked into the middle room and I had my charger and it hit me "WHAT IF HIS HAS THE SAME CHARGER HOW WILL I TELL THEM........oh wait my service tag is on mine" it has a sticker on it that the techs in Houston put on

    We decided to go with the 780Ms
     
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    The 780ms can't be matched ;)
     
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