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    Repaste with Tuniq TX-4 Result is Better Than ICD...

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by -keph-, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. -keph-

    -keph- Notebook Consultant

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    hi guys i just repasted my cpu n gpu with TUNIX TX-4 and the result is amazing..

    idle/normal browsing and chatting at 45c-46c

    load i havent test im planning to test with furmark tonight..

    enjoy..

    ps.if any one is considering to do a repaste GO FOR TUNIQ TX-4.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. HeavenCry

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    What is your ambient and can you post a 20-30min furmark run?
    According to the reviews it gets you around 1C lower than the ICD or MX-3...
     
  3. -keph-

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    my ambient was around 23c-25c sure ill post it around tonight...normally on my ICD around for just 20 min it reaches 88c-90c dont knwo about this new one..ill post it later...

    cheers...
     
  4. -keph-

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    after 15 min of furmark..the ambient was around the same 23c-25c..it just reach a maximum of 78c..and going down around 73c-75c..its really amazing what does this paste do..10c cooler than ICD..WOW..

    [​IMG]
     
  5. HeavenCry

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    Interesting... Very good temperatures indeed.
    If anoyone else does it and shows such a huge drop in temperatures id consider taking apart and repasting my laptop for the sixth time.
    It could be youre a lucky GPU owner like Chastity who got a very cool GPU and perhaps you just pasted better with this paste to explain such a drop in temperatures, becouse the tests from reviews dont show such difference. But id love to see it be true so ill wait if someone else will do it since id have to order this from USA or Korea if i decide to get it.
     
  6. rschauby

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    Given the hundreds of other possible variables, I wouldn't be too quick to claim it was all the credit to Tuniq. Did you apply and test every other TIM so you have a more valid comparison?

    Regardless, nice job and congrats on the new lower temps.
     
  7. ziddy123

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    Gratz on the low temps.

    Been trying to find information on Tuniq TX-4. So far I've come up with zero credible reviews, all of the reviews are completely bogus. And I haven't found any "user" reviews for it at all. I only found one possibly credible where it showed TX-3 being 1C cooler than ICD 7.

    Problem with TIM is that you can find a review to show any of the major TIM being the best, ICD 7, OCZ, AS5, etc. etc.

    I'm more inclined to believe a community like Overclockers.net who all pretty much say, ICD7, OCZ, AS5, ShinEtsu, MX-3, TX-4, any of these are fine and about within 1C of each other with proper application and use.

    I don't believe the TX-4 is 10C cooler than ICD 7. Now I'm not denying your results, but I would reiterate rschauby. There are other variables responsible like properly seating your heatsink or properly applying etc.
     
  8. -keph-

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    hahah u should get one..its really helping the temps..

    yes i did..normal thermal paste/standard idle at around 55c-60c cpu and 60c on the gpu.with load the cpu can reach 70c-ish and gpu up to 96c

    with IDC idle 52c-55c cpu with 55c-57c gpu at idle..and for load cpu 65c-ish and gpu 85c-88c..

    and last with this tuniq tx-4 i was amazed..now my idle cpu is 45c-50c with high performance setting.and the gpu is 50c 700/1000 and for load is max 61c and gpu at 78c max after a 20min furmark.

    all settings was done in high performance..

    hehehe i was amazed at the results too..i cant believe it but the facts is that on the picture i have print screen..15 mins on furmark and maxed at 78c and slowly going down to 74c.maybe u should try it to urself and see it hehehe..its amazing..
     
  9. ziddy123

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    Fact is, there is no credible information other your own screenshot that shows TX-4 being better than ICD-7 by more than 1C.

    So again, won't deny your results, but I flatly do not believe it's because of the TX-4. TX-4 has been out for a while and the complete lack of evidence of it's 10C difference of superiority says it all.

    I can't find any credible review or user experience of TX-4 being more 2C better than ICD 7 nevermind 10C.

    And no I'm not going to buy this stuff, which there is almost no information about. I already bought ICD 7 and OCZ Extreme Freeze and in the past AS5 all of which are considered to be within 1C of each other. This includes MX-3, TX-3/TX-4 and various other solutions.

    There is simply no credible proof to back up your claim of 10C of difference. There is no credible evidence provided by you that you applied ICD 7 properly just as you did with TX-4. There is no measurement of ambient temperature to ensure the same environment. The list goes on and on. That's why when it comes to these kind of measurements, I rather believe AnandTech, TechPowerUp, Overclockers.net.

    If the TX-4 was 10C better than competition, this would be proclaimed on every single overclocking and custom and DIY computer hardware forum and review site! And well it's not. It's barely even making any mention or news at all.
     
  10. -keph-

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    ive been putting paste for over 6 years now and yes i did a proper pasting on the ICD 7.im not saying that tx-4 is way better than ICD 7 but i did my own testing and i still cant accept the fact that its way cooler..and i was doing the testing in the same room with the same cooler pad with the same settings and room temperature(cuz my air con is always on 24/7)..as u can see peoples reviews of the ICD 7 u can compare it with mine..the last was that lets say the maximum temp ok..
    1.ICD 7 with 20min of furmark cpu around 65c and gpu tops at 88c
    2.Tuniq TX-4 with also 20min of furmark cpu maxed at 61c and gpu maxed at 78c and slowly going down to 74c after 20mins.(i seen it with my own eyes)

    soo conclusion is that ill stick with the TX-4 since what i experienced its better than ICD 7..

    cheersssss... :D
     
  11. -keph-

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    after almost 1 1/2 hour of furmark extreme burning mode test stable at 77c-78c

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Noxian

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    Wow that sure is impressive.
     
  13. -keph-

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    yep thx..im quite shocked to after 1 1/2 hour of burning mode on furmark the temperature is stable at 77c..wow :D :D :eek: :eek:
     
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    Laptop pad? table? Ambient temps?
     
  15. -keph-

    -keph- Notebook Consultant

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    cooler pad NZXT CYRO LX..and ambient temp around 22c-23c..
     
  16. PulsatingQuasar

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    What about a run without cooler pad?

    What BIOS version?
     
  17. kowell

    kowell Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess I got lucky with the factory paste job in my G73. Never got any heat problem. Room temperature is usually 20-25c. Cooler is usually good for an extra 5c while gaming but was not used for these benches

    [​IMG]
     
  18. -keph-

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    without the cooler pad it rises around 4c-6c..and im using bios 211.
     
  19. -keph-

    -keph- Notebook Consultant

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    in your picture there ur running at 15w.??thats my cpu running on only 928MHz..are u sure u play crysis with that setting??

    and btw how long did u play the game and at what setting??
     
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    These temps seem like the results I got when I had ATI Powerplay set to Maximum Battery on High Performance while using Furmark.........
     
  21. -keph-

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    are u refering it to me or kowell...??
     
  22. kowell

    kowell Notebook Evangelist

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    To be honest the screenshot was taken 2 seconds after I closed Crysis. I was only interested in the GPU temperture at the moment and not power so I closed the game and took the screenshot before the GPU temperature started to drop back to idle.
    That probably explains why the power consumption looks weird.

    I had been playing Crysis on 1080P with high settings for a little more than 1 hour.
     
  23. -keph-

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    but did u played crysis at 15w.?which is 928MHz??if only for the gpu i would say congrats because normal thermal paste could reach 80c++ for the gpu??but try playing crysis in windowed mode and open the hw monitor and take the screen shot thx..cuz normally the temps goes down extremly after closing games, benchmark and other heavy gpu applications..cheerss...
     
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    I hate to sound skeptical, but look at your idle vs. load temps. Given the heatsink/heatpipe supplied by Asus and a reasonable paste application, you're looking at a difference of about 30C between idle and load. If those are your true idle temps, they're ok, but not great. My GPU idles at around 55C with an ambient temp of 23C and will cap out around 88C at load (more like 80-82C playing SC). To me, it sounds like you're rocking a power saving mode, so do yourself a favor and press fn+space and set your system to the performance profile.
     
  25. kowell

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    Thanks for pointing that out. I was actually in Entertainment mode. Performance mode is now selected.


    I updated the screenshot with in-game temps.
    Power consumption makes a lot more sens
    Guess my temps just went from good to average ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  26. Dkumagai

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    Good deal, and I'm sure you're getting better performance now ;).
     
  27. Jody

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    The picture posted before (The 1.5 hour run) had a min FPS of 8 and a max FPS of 156. Why did the FPS jump around like that on your run? My Furmarks always have a min of 14 and a max of 19 with average of 17 or 18 no matter how long I run them. My max temp is 88C to 89C.
     
  28. Dkumagai

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    Interesting, at 1920x1080 windowed with post-processing and extreme burning I get 20-21 fps average. That's more than a 10% difference.
     
  29. Sabre-shin

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    I was referring to you about the temps.
     
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    Sorry -keph-, but you don't hold the best temp record. ;)

    On 211 I score 76-77C on Furmark with no cooler at your ambient with ICD7. With your cooler, I'd be even cooler.

    Your 10C drop represents you have a better seal and optimum paste thickness this time around. Sorry to burst your bubble. :) (No I'm not :p)
     
  31. DvvD

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    The new cooler .. :)
    [​IMG]
     
  32. sean473

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    wow man.. that's a bit extreme u know :D
     
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    Isn't that Mandrake's image?
     
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    no is my cooler.....
    but it must have low temperatures ..
     
  35. aramis109

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    Uh, that's Mandrake's rig pics. I specifically remember it. Are you referring to the cooler in the pic?
     
  36. ziddy123

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    Yeah that's most definitely Mandrake's picture.
     
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    I thought that pic was familiar, yes thats definitely mandrake's pic
     
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    If only I could increase the voltage on this 5870 I might be willing to pull off a trick like this just for benchmark numbers lol.
     
  40. lord_neno

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    yeah : D~~~~~~~~

    The problem of OC in the g1s was that vram was so hot. I put a peltier in the vram heatsink to reach the 6000 points in 3dmark06 :D (i got 6108)
     
  41. ziddy123

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    That's essentially what Clevo does. Have the GPU/CPU way in the back with a copper heatsink right on top and and fan directly on top. The reason why they are so bulky.
     
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    Looking at pics of the bottom panel of our G73's. It looks like part of the GPU cooler is visible correct? It looks like it is Aluminum... Is there any way to replace that part with an all copper part? Or hell can we attach an external cooler to it from below? ;)
     
  43. ziddy123

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    The heatsink for the core is all copper. The only parts that touch the GPU that is aluminum is the vRam. And honestly, copper is not needed for that. That's overkill.

    So no, I do no think replacing the heatsink will do much for you. Plus if you can get your GPU to run around 79C under Furmark Extreme burn what more do you want?
     
  44. -keph-

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    here u go...all pics are done without photo shop..

    Prt Sc.

    [​IMG]

    with my mobile phone(samsung Galaxy S)..(WITHOUT THE CYRO LX COOLER PAD AS U CAN SEE ITS BEHIND MY G73)..

    [​IMG]
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    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]


    no more to say..guess there are a lot of haters here... :D
     
  45. -keph-

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    no probs..all up 2 u..and all up 2 anyone..not trying to convince people to buy this but if theres someting better why not...??as u can see my pics and screenshot does it seems im using a fridge or something cool to cool my beast..im just happy that my GPU is one of the coolest in this forum like Chastity's..

    thx
     
  46. ziddy123

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    G73 in 72F ambient, will achieve around 80C whether you use OCZ Extreme Freeze or ICD7.
    TIM does not reduce temperatures as you are trying to imply. If the contact between the core and heatsink is as close it can get with TIM filling in the gaps, regardless of what quality TIM you use, temps should be within 1-2C of each other, ICD7, OCZ or LiquidPro
    Tuniq claims TX-4 will drop temps by about 1C over TX-3
    TX-3 loses almost everytime to OCZ Freeze and ICD7
    The only legit review I've seen, shows TX-4 dropping temp about 1-2C better than AS5
     
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    Physical mods might drop your temp 10C but merely reapplying thermal paste, no way. Sometimes people see a few C improvement and that had nothing to do with the actual paste, it was just the proper application which did it.
     
  48. -keph-

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    all up 2 u..whatever u think is just fine with me ok..and btw why in the hell am i trying to sell paste in here.?how much money i can make by selling paste come on and have i ever tell u people here to buy it from me and for how much..?from the first ive made this thread i never said about the price and where to buy in and so...i also buy it from INDONESIA where i got a family there who sends it to Beijing (when my brother goes for a trip here)..so stop thinking that im selling this paste..

    JUST ADMIT THAT U R JEALOUS OF MY TEMPS AND STOP ALL OF THIS..!

    with respect thx..
     
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    all i did was reapplying the past perfectly and bench..no mods no nothing all i did was opening the back pannel for extra cooling..
     
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    OK u say say anything selling bla bla bla...BUT U SEE MY MOBILE CAM PICS DO U THINK IM USING A PORTABLE A/C OR ANYTHING..come on ziddy im begging u to stop this can u...LIKE I SAID IM JUST A NORMAL USER WHO IS MAYBE LUCKY TO GET A WELL CONSTRUCTED G73JH.AND NOT TRYING TO SELL PASTE...
     
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