Repasting G53JW laptop

i ordered ARCITIC SILVER 5 from newegg (couldnt find IC diamond 7) hope i made the right choice, and arcitic thermal remover and surface purifier, and i am going to repaste it tomorrow, so what i am asking is any tips ? (this is my first time repasting something).

also on arcitic silver 5 i should put a ball (pea size) on both the graphics card and the cpu ? or that only applies for the IC diamond 7 ?

all i am sking is to give me some tips for those people who already repaste their g53jw or g73jw laptops or those who have experiance with repasting.


thanks ! and wish me a good luck

 

ok i repasted my g53jw and my highest temprature on furmark is 86c .......

this is the first thing i did after repasting the gtx460 !

should i expect a better results within 200 hours ? if so, how many degrees will be lower ?

and the cpu is running much better with 47c !! ...... also should i expect a better results with it ?

ps: i am using arctic silver 5.

 

Hi again, I replied to the other thread

In regards to Arctic Silver 5 you might not see a major difference after 200 hours but it does need time to cure so expect a few degree's lower hopefully.

Good repaste results you have there 86oC with Furmark is very good for AS5.

CPU even better. Grats and glad you got it sorted

I look at temps like this:

CPU: Below 90oC is fine. Below 80oC is finer.
GPU: Below 100oC is fine. Below 90oC is finer.

 

thank you, you know that you saved me ? because i didnt expect anyone to reply to me that fast.

i literly was looking at my gtx460m and didint know what to do with the thermal pads, now thank you very much.


another question is that furmark was without any overclocking on the gpu ..... so .....

another question is, on arctic silever website, they said that i need to wait 200 hours (use it normally for 200 hours) so the thermal will work on its maximum and decresses several degress.

dunno but thats what they said on the website soo .....

again thank you.

 

Remember that Furmark stresses the GPU way beyond what most normal software and games would only very few games cause the same 'burn' effect ie Crysis 2 at max settings or Witcher 2 at max settings so the temperature you are achieving using Furmark with stock clocks is very good compared to other JW results and you should have no problem overclocking.

Just use the laptop as you normally would so that the temperature fluctuates during curing, and your welcome I know how scary repasting can be the first time round!

 

so can i overclock my gpu and i repasted it 1 hour ago ? XDDDDD

because i am just so excited XD

http://imageshack.us/f/695/unledpyl.jpg/ THIS WAS BEFORE REPASTING !

 

You waited an hour? What are you waiting for?

Curing is a funny old thing but honestly you have shown your max temp is 86oC against 93oC+ you had before so you have nothing to worry about, what they are referring to is to not leave the laptop in a freezer or on furmark extreme burn for 200 hours but to use it normally.

 

ok now i am really really issed, i overclocked my gpu to 814-1500-1628

and my tempratures are 92~93 (and ofc it is because the video card throttle down).

i really did what i could, i am even running it on a cooler, and still cant get this gpu to cool down while it is overclocked.

i still wonder how other people keep their gpu (gtx460m) so cool, is it because they have the sandy bridge processor? or newer version of gtx460m ? or what ?

 

Ok firstly 92-93 with an overclock in the G53 is not that high. Because it is smaller the cooling is restricted and most see temps in the 80's and 90's. Overclocking WILL raise your temps.

Secondly the GPU will not throttle until is passes 105oC+ so you wont be throttling unless other sections are not running the same temperature. MEM(IO), Diode, etc

To make sure of this check your temps with HWINFO and select Sensors and then run a test and post your results.

 

it wont show, this s not only me having this problem there are alot of people having the same exact problem, and some dont.

my fps when i start the test was 24~25, and when it reaches 93c it become 19 and then 20 when it reaches 93 and so on and on and on .....

what do you call that ?

do you think if i open the laptop and do repasting again will help ? or not ?

but i am pretty sure i did it right .. .. .

anywaysi will go to sleep now it is 6:24 am O.O but please give me advices as much as you can so i can think of what to do tomorrow thanks again.

 

It does still have to cure ^^ 200 hours remember.

Run HWINFO ^^ and check all sections of the GPU temperature. I still think that those temps are not that bad unless a section of the GPU is running hotter that could be the cause of the throttling you can see this by running the Hwinfo sensors.

The G53 models have been known to run hotter than the larger models but remember again that you are running Furmark and that pushes the temps far higher than that of a game.

You could consider repasting with ICD if you dont see better results although the difference as many claim is minor it brought my temps down from 95oC to 81oC and I tested this religiously 5 times repasting with each and ICD destroyed AS5 for me.

HWINFO. Curing. Clean your vents. Check your gaming temps. Only then consider a further repaste with ICD.

Goodnight

 

hwinfo is reporting the temorpature of the gpu core is 93 tho there is no THROTTLE in the clock speeds ........

but i watched furmark and the fps droped from 24 to 19 on 93c, same when i play gpu intensive game, like mw2 or witcher 2, those used to happen also before i repaste.

also i bought already 2 compressed air cans, and i cleaned the laptop 100% when i opened it .

i dont really think it is a paste issue, i mean it could be but maybe something else is causing the heat for the gpu ?

the only deffirence i see is when i run the video card on stock speed, which is 86c on furmark and before it used to reach 93c and then the same thing happen.


it look like my gpu want to reach higher than 93c but my laptop wont allow it to do that.....

i really really sleepy now, i know i said i will go to sleep but i didnt cuz i am thinking about what to do, but now i will really go to sleep.

 

When you wake up run furmark with your overclock and can you attach a GPU-z log file that will show if it is throttling or not.

I forgot that Hwinfo does not show each section of the core on the 460M

 

ok hello, i just woke up, i hope you still there.

first thing i did is running furmark with gpuz (as you staed before).

and here are the results :

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i really dont see any throttling but the FPS dropped from 24 to 19 after it reached 93c

 

I am always here fella

What we need to take a look at is the log file. See at the bottom of the sensors page it says log to file. You need to click on that so that the tick brings up a box and says where to save it too. That will show if there is any throttling so run Furmark after doing that for a couple of minutes until you see the frames drop.

 

i already did it and there was no throttle, it is really really really wierd isnt it ?
plus i just run furmark and the tempratures are now 93c too ! but guess what there is no drop in fps (20~19).

my conclusion is i guess when i run the gpu (overclocked) after it reaches a certain degree it restore itself to its default clock speeds (thats why it go back to (19~20fps) same when i run it on the stock clocks.

another thing is i am 100% sure that when i ran it yesterday on stock, the max temprature was 86c.

why it is now 93c ? XDD

i was really happy yesterday but now i am sad (( please help me ...

 

Can you upload the log file so I can have a look ^^ I know you have run Furmark but im talking about checking the throttling through GPU-z now.

If it is throttling it will show the drop in clock speeds in that log file.

 

zzz i deleted the file, but i will run 00it again and attach the log file capiche ?

edit : this is before it reaches 93c http://imageshack.us/f/263/beforeitreaches93c.jpg/

 

Do it mate lets take a look and rule that out then we can have a think.

Capiche is that a word?

 

here is the log file ....

 

capiche is italian word mean ''deal'' XDD

 

Ahhh vedo vedo

You can cook me some pasta when this is sorted out then. Well the log file confirms that your clocks are not throttling and you replaced all the thermal pads correctly when you repasted and you conducted a pea sized blob repaste in the centre of the chip before reseating the heatsink.

What I think you should do is to try and stabilise your overclock, try lowering the clocks and test them with Furmark until it stops the frames from dropping.

Are you using the stock Asus 150 watt adaptor?

Remember that Furmark is a stress test it is not made to test FPS specifically and if the GPU and CPU are not throttling then I would also once you have your clocks sorted and your temps are below 93oC run FRAPS in the background while gaming and check to see if your frames suffer. Run HWINFO sensors in the background to monitor your temps.

Lastly remember 200 hours are not up and it still needs to cure, I believe that you will see better results with ICD so if you are confident and would be happier attempting a second repaste using ICD I can only recommend this to you from the results I have seen from ICD and they are pretty special.

Any other questions post em up here or PM me.

 

well i amnot italian but i know what capiche mean XDDDDDD

umh i told you that now even when i run it on the stock clocks it will reach 93c (but no fps drops).

also i am using the ac adapter that came with the laptop, should i use the my brothers AC adapter ? (he have g73jh)

i will go play the witcher 2 and see the frame rates, also i belive that modern warfare 2 takes alot of the gpu(i know it is old but sitll take alot of gpu power)

the only reason i bought the AS5 is because i didnt find ICD on NEWEGG website.

an addition the only thing that keeps me thinkin is that if there is no throttling why the frames per second goes down after it reaches 93c ?

one last thing, my laptop NEVER NEVER reaches over 93c no matter what are the clock it will still be the same (((

 

Dont bother with the JH adaptor they are both 150watt.

Yes this was also the same issue with another JW owner that his did not go above 93oC and he was facing similiar issues to you but clearing his vents dropped his temps by around 10oC and sorted his problems. If you have checked everything is in full working order ie, heatsink not damaged and fan is properly connected, radiator is clear and extracts through the vent it could just be a hot chip and the G53 do have higher temps than its G73 counterpart.

Go game and see how it goes and see what your temps hit. I cannot advise where to pick it up in the US but im sure that you can get it because it hard to get hold of in the UK but I managed, try Ebay maybe

 

ok i just finished playing the witcher 2, and my max gpu temprature while overclocked to 814-1500-1628 (stock are 675-1250-1350) is 83c, but maybe the witcher 2 is cpu intensive because i just cant belive the tempratures XDDDDDD

 

Witcher 2 is very hard on the GPU it is intensive. The temperature may rise slightly more after a long period of gaming but I think you are pretty much sorted with those temps now and 83oC is nothing to worry about

Its easy to think 93oC is not acceptable when running Furmark but as mentioned earlier on, Furmark pushes things to the very edge of the cliff and it is made to do so, on my 5870M before applying ICD I was hitting 107oC

Enjoy it now and if you have any problems consider ICD but allow it to cure for 200 hours before considering this.

 

okok thank you very much for your help, i really dont know how to thank you +rep !

 

You owe me pasta remember ta ra mate nice speaking to ya!

 

lol i told you i am not italian

 

hello again my friend, i have another question, can this be good Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING Arctic Cooling MX-4 AC-MX4 4 gram (g) All-Around Thermal Compound ?

because i have red the reviews and they said it is excellent, plus this thermal is mad for gpu and cpu, this is new thermal from arctic, plus they said that it is a new formula and there is no curing time.

do you recommend this ?

 

I cant comment on that one as I haven't used it.

If you want awesome cooling go for the Storm SF-19 or the Cryo Nzxt they are both very powerful coolers and if you remove the maintenance panel when you plonk the laptop on top you will see a severe decrease in temps when its run full blast.

 

i wasnt asking you about coolers lol, did you even click on the link ? it is a thermal compund .................

 

LOL just arrived in work late and im still half asleep and instead of working im on the forum so forgive me for not looking.

MX, ICD, Shin Etsu etc are all good TIM's. ICD is normally mentioned and recommended because of its proven results and argument that is beats all others but there is no proof of that.

I haven't used it so I will only recommend ICD to you.

 

ok more question fr you buddy more questions.....

i se you upgraded your cpu to the i7 920xm, is there improvments in gaming ? also you bought it for $1000 or you got it on sale or what ?

also can i upgrade it to the same cpu (will my laptop supprt it?).

another question is, did i void my warranty for the gpu and the cpu only or the whole laptop ?, for example i scratched my LCD screen by mistake and it is extremly annoying(if you know what i mean), so i was thinking to send it to ASUS i have this laptop for 4 months and i have 1 year accedental warranty and 2 years normal warranty, so can i give it back to them ?

 

Feel free I will answer them best I can.

Not $1000 I used laptop monkey. They currently have them listed for $348 Here you could probably make an offer to haggle them down a bit.

The CPU will make an improvement to frames in games that are CPU intensive ie Starcraft 2, Civ 5, RTS titles etc games that have a lot of processing going on screen if you are under attack by a vast amount of aliens an XM helps. The CPU also improves the frames in other games but mainly shows an increase in the minimum and average FPS it is rare to see an increase in FPS unless you count 1 or 2 fps in certain scenes an increase.

The main ability is A. Prolonging the life of your laptop B. Being able to unlock the cores ie having 4 cores running at 3.2ghz instead of 1.6ghz for the 720QM C. Processing faster - A LOT faster if you do CPU intensive work 3D editing, video editing etc it will show a difference. Finally it is a fantastic upgrade for the price you can get one for now.

Be warned: This all sounds good but with it comes an increase in heat and an increase in the power consumption. For 3.2ghz on 4 cores at full load for instance will require 95watts of juice and push 90-100oC. Obviously you would not require it to be at full load all the time and I risk running mine even higher but make sure I have Throttlestop profiles ready for if I intend to do something that pushes it above 60-70% load, but they are hot stuff that is for sure.

Yes it will support it.

Did you remove the warranty sticker to repaste? If you did that means you may have voided your warranty. If you are under warranty its really only recommended to repaste the GPU as this does not require any seals to be broken. Although if they where to replace the screen it does not require the Motherboard to be removed so they would not see the break in the seal however its a trial and error thing if you have broken it RMA it and worse case scenario they send it back saying no.

 

more questions XDDD

i have seen your signature cpu overclock video on youtube.

my question is why would you overclock the i7 ? doesnt it have turbo boost ?

or maybe byoverclocking you will make your cpu (all cores) run at spicifc clock speed (unlick the turbo boost) ?

if it is better, can you tell me how to overclock my i7 740qm processor ? (i want to take full advantage of my laptop 100% of its performance !)

 

Personally fella I wouldn't recommend overclocking the CPU yours is already running 1.73ghz-2.93ghz and that is more than enough, I did not find much benefit overclocking my 720QM. The way in which it works is like this for instance with the 720QM.

1 core active: 2.8ghz 2 cores active: 2.4ghz 3 or 4 cores active: 1.6ghz

They multipliers are Locked for the QM models meaning you cannot change these speeds.

With the XM model they are unlocked meaning you can simply unlock them and have:

1 core active: 3.2ghz 2 cores active: 3.2ghz 3 or 4 core active: 3.2ghz



So with QM models by raising the FSB you are actually shifted the total core speed up for instance 10% would change 1.6ghz at 3 or 4 to 1.73Ghz. Similiar to what the Twin Turbo button should do.

If you still want to overclock the CPU just follow my instruction as per my video as it pretty much covers everything.

Here is a slab of text as well:

With SETFSB you simply raise the PLL and test every couple of mhz by using something like Prime 95 to make sure it does not lock up or BSOD. If you have the 720qm like me you will start at 139PLL or 153PLL depending if you have turbo mode on. Work your way up and as above you will gradually reach a point where things start not responding, gadgets and programs start crashing and you eventually BSOD. For me that is around 187PLL although my overclock ability as per my sig link of 2ghz is a lot higher than the norm and I usually hang around 185PLL to remain stable. Remember what your highest clock is and drop it down 4 or 5mhz once you have rebooted from the BSOD and then stress and test the PLL to make sure its stable, if not drop it a few more.

(SETFSB will reset back to default 139PLL if you crash or restart your computer)

IMPORTANT: have a read through this and apply this fix if you plan to o/c the CPU as Windows 7 has an adverse effect which needs correcting with a simple timing fix applied through DOS prompt using administrator settings. All compliments go to Unclewebb for this fix and his continued support with CPU overclocking.

Overclocks are limited by voltage and thanks to Asus it would appear because of hardwiring the G73JH cannot be changed so as long as you have good temps at the moment or good paste you wont really need to worry about the small increase in temperature, but use HWINFO to make sure everything is running as it should by using the sensors. Also every chip is different so do not expect to reach what others have or expect to reach more, as Tijo has explained on another recent overclocking post that chips are put through certain tests to make sure they can handle the stock clocks, voltage, watts, etc (called binning) and if they pass the tests they are allowed into the OEM production world, they do not necessarily test for the chip to reach the sort of output we aim for which in my case is excessive and im nearing the point of attaching a car battery to the GPU/CPU.

 

then i dont think i will overclock my cpu ....

thanks again if i have other questions i will ask..

but i really really wish that i can give you more REPUTATION (( but it wont let me ...

 

I take pleasure from solving problems not aquiring pretty green squares so dont worry fella!

 

pretty green squares are pretty

 

how many games you have ? what are they ? because i want to compare the fps in my laptop with your laptop

also i think my CPU is already overclocked using power4gear software see this picture : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7982/rogg53jwxn1i7740qm.jpg the speed is 3.1ghz ! and the bus speed is 141.1MHz ! so i dont need to over clock it anymore correct ?