SATA2 or SATA3, and few Q about SSHD =)

Hello everyone, have a few questions about HDD upgrade in my notebook.

I have G53SW-XA1, which has Seagate 500gb 16mb cache 7200rpm.

Is it worth buying SSHD Seagate 750gb 32mb cache+8gb mlc nand 7200rpm?

And what type of controller do I have, Sata2 or Sata3?

Thanks=)

ps: any sence in installing additional 8gb ram(total will be 16gb) for gaming?

 

No benefits goinf rom 8 to 16GB or RAM unless you run out. Your laptop has SATA III. Given that you already have a 500GB drive, i'd say get a caddy and a SSD.

 

Its hard to get caddy in our country=( Already thought about that...need to w8 for 1+ month to get it. SSD 128gb is same price as SSHD for 750gb, and i prefer more space, ssd cant do much for me, especially for gaming

 

I second what Tijo said and a SSD will own a Hybrid drive, you will get a perky increase in performance with a Hybrid drive accessing the data you use the most faster but with an SSD all data will accessed faster and there will be a total increase in responsiveness especially on a SATA III.

My HyperX in my sig was at a bargain price and I read at 530mb/s, you only have to compare that to the 90-110mb/s from a 7200RPM drive to see the performance gain. You can easily get away without a caddy just get some foam from a washing up sponge and pack it in.

 

Is it safe? Temperature of ssd in foam....)

 

You are only putting sponge where the caddy would be so that the gap at the base of the hdd is filled to stop it moving. There is never any heat near the HDD anything above 50oC is detrimental to it so heat wont be an issue where it is located.

 

A-Data AS510S3-120GM-C
Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F120GB3-BK
Kingston SH100S3B/120G
OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-120G
OCZ VTX3-25SAT3-120G

Which one is the best for G53SW?=)

 

Everyone is going to have their own opinion, naturally your main focus wants to be on the READ speed as that is the most important feature but you will need to listen to others opinions on what one is best as I dont know a lot about Firmware updates etc.

I can recommend the one I have because it is fantastic and needed nothing done to it just Plug and Play it is the 120GB Kingston HyperX SSD SATA III and in the UK it is an absolute bargain on Amazon so I assume it would be in the US.

 

Im in Ukraine)

 

The ones that get the most recommendation in the SSD section are the Intel drives, the Samsung 830 and the Crucial M4.

Off topic, but how has the HyperX been treating you BSOD wise Yiddo, dang i'll never get used to not calling you Dallers .

 

0 BSOD I have yet to run into an issue with this SSD. Is that a common problem with these drives? Only going on my experiences mind my setup arrived with the latest firmware and BIOS for everything which impressed me even more from a UK seller.

However sadly the beast is actually in for RMA lol but not from the build I had a stuck sub pixel and for someone with OCD as you can imagine I was going out of my mind trying to engulf myself in skyrim with a little green dot staring back at me even literally standing on the screen and massaging for hours could not get the little bugger out tried all the software tests as well and in the end decided new screen required I chose the 1 year pixel guarantee for an extra fiver so glad I did.

 

The HyperX uses the infamous SF-2281 controller, i have seen far less reports of HyperX BSODs than for OCZ drives though, i was just wondering. The latest firmware should have fixed the BSOD issues too.

 

Ah I see I Hope so I was considering buying a second and running RAID 0 online results show this thing can push just over 1000mb/s when running in RAID. Scary fast.

 

One man told me, that there is no actuall difference between 550mb\s reading speed, and 300mb\s for gaming, cause nothing can use such speed for now(in home pc, not servers)
Is it true? Any sence to pay more for 550mb\s HyperX, or just simply buy V200 = 300mb\s | 190mb\s


ps: SSD will be used as a system disk

 

Ermmm whoever told you that hasnt got a clue what he is talking about an SSD will make no difference to gaming it only effects the load times and the load times are affected by how fast the hard drive is able to read the data stored on it, so the quicker the better.

It affects the ability for the system to boot and load system files etc faster enabling you to speed up access to any of the files stored on it and also it can copy data at much higher speeds.

In comparison from my Kingston SATA 2 (sig) which runs at 240MB/s READ to my hyperX SATA 3 (sig) which runs at 530MB/s READ the difference very noticeable.

You want the SSD to be your system disk and for any programs you use regularly like games, store your DATA on the mechanical drive.

 

But general perfomance isn't just influenced by this sequential read speeds. That is more marketing. I think, you won't feel a difference from 240 to 550 MB/s (special circumstances) without any benchmark. It's more the 4K read speeds combined with IOPS. But yeah, Sata3 interface has little bit more performance in general.

 

My boot speed has dropped by 12 seconds from SATA 2 how is that not visible?

SATA 2 to SATA 3 affects all read speeds I dont know of a SATA 3 SSD that runs as low as 300mb/s for sequential read speeds so I assumed the OP saying above what his friend mentioned was him saying there is no difference between SATA 2 and SATA 3. Or was that not obvious?

 

But that has nothing to do with Sata2 or Sata3!
It's just because the Kingston wasn't the fastest SSD at all. Don't compare it with your HyperX.
I bet, a Crucial C300 64GB at Sata2 isn't slower for booting than your 550MB/s hyperX. The C300 still has the highest 4K speeds ever (30MB/s read!). Today the companies prefer higher seq. read/write and reduced 4K. Why? Because no normal end user really can make usage of this performance. And seq. values looks better for selling SSDs. The most people out there just look at the highest seq. read/write speeds. But that don't have to be the fastest SSD!
Btw: which source really can deliver >500 over long period? Copy from/to the same drive isn't a point here.

Peace.

 

The OP said that his friend informed him there would be no difference in performance from an SSD running at 300mb/s to an SSD running at 550mb/s when gaming. I told him that there wouldn't be any difference at all when gaming because an SSD only affects the load speeds.

What are you on about? and how was I comparing it to my hyperx I was referring to the difference between my SATA 2 and SATA 3 devices referring to them by name. I mentioned nothing to do with the 4K speeds or the like I was referring to the overall benefits of having the latest SSD speeds compared to older 3GB/s.

But thanks for the Science lesson although I dont have a clue what you are on about.

 

The OP means (or friend), that there will no gain for gaming between SSDs with 300 - 500 MB/s or Sata2 - Sata3. I would subscribe that. Nobody said stg. about FPS.
Sry, you had said the same at one point.

You said:
In comparison from my Kingston SATA 2 (sig) which runs at 240MB/s READ to my hyperX SATA 3 (sig) which runs at 530MB/s READ the difference very noticeable.

My boot speed has dropped by 12 seconds
But not because Sata3 or 550MB/s seq. READ.
That was my point. Calm down.

 

I did yes, so what is your point? I referred to the READ speeds to simplify my explanation that I am referring to two different types of SSD you piped in to try and prove me wrong when not everyone is a genius and knows that there is more to an SSD than just a sequential read/write speed as these are not made common knowledge.

Keep your arrogant calm down comment to yourself as well I am not the one with the problem here.

 

Nothing was meant arrogant!
Didn't you seen the smilie?

But OK, I'm out here. Don't want to blame anybody.
I ought keep unwanted knowledge.