So long g73 hello Alienware m17x r3

I bid you all farewell and thanks for all of the wonderful support and troubleshooting over the last year. i just purchased the new alienware. to be honest, i have always wanted one but the price was just too steep. the g73 was jsut the next best thing for me. I will be giving my g73 to my 6 year old to play on (that just seems wrong lol). I wish you all well. One last thing. Chastity, buy an alienware so we can get your genious over in that forum

for about $2000 (usd) i jsut got this:
External System Details:
System Name and Type: Laptop - Alienware M17x
Monitor: 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920x1080 120Hz WLED w/ NVIDIA 3D Vision Bundle
Color: Alienware M17x, Soft Touch Stealth Black
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 2630QM 2.0GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (2DIMMS) (gonna aftermarket to 8gb)
Hard Drive: 1.5TB Raid 0 (2x 750GB 7,200RPM)
Video Card: 1.5GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M
Optical Drive: Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
Internet & Communication Features:
Wireless: Wireless 802.11 g/n
Software Included:
Operating System: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit

 

Have fun!

I am both an ASUS and AW fan, personally.

 

Wow. Droooooolingg. ~ Goodluck on that.

 

I too have always loved the Alienware brand, though I could never afford it.
I will stick to my g73 since I got it at such a steal and will upgrade it until I cannot anymore. If at that point I can afford and Alienware, I will probably do it just for being able to say I have owned one.

I agree with you about the 6 year old, but nothing wrong with nice things ha!

If you get ready to sell it and maybe get a little redemption money, shoot me a PM.

 

sure i would sell my g73 to someone.....and by the way i hate you and your fast internet signature lol.....i live up in the mountains of colorado.....DSL baby ;(

 

Welcome to Alienware and don't worry we've got plenty of bright individuals in the AW forum.


P.S. If you have steam, join the alienware group (see my sig).

 

Dell makes decent computers with the alienware line. I'd say the BEST feature is the ease of end-user upgrades. That, to me, is *almost* worth the ~$300 (minimum) price premium over a comparable asus. I think if I kept my computers longer, it would be worth it.

Then again, I'm getting to a point where I don't want to bother selling computers. I really hate EBAY, and Craigslist and dealing with people who think you're trying to rip them off, so they try to rip you off... *sigh*

 

so with blu ray and 8gb rams the price would be ????

 

+$100 for the BD drive, +$50 for ram. And since it's alienware, it's dead simple to do on your own.

Also note he's got a 120hz screen.

 

dell wanted 250 for 8gb of ram...forget that, im going to newegg it for less then 100.

it was 150 more for the blueray, but i NEVER watch movies on my laptop...well not legal ones from a disk anyway

 

so 2200 $ ... too much for me
1600 $ was too much for my G73 but i am not going to regret

and what about baterry life?

 

Thx for the invite BTW, I hope you enjoy your new system, as it does look pretty sweet spec-wise. BTW, I just updated the Driver page with 265.96

 

Not willing to buy anything til the best they can do is:
Video Card: 1.5GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M

Mid range card in gaming pc .. meh

120Hz monitor kills any chance to use i7 2630QM built in gpu for optimus.

The time to upgrade is just not here yet.
Only worth to buy if replacing a 3 generation old computer. (c2d)

 

@sama98b,
Why does a 120hz screen kill optimus?

 

It doesn't, no idea what he's talking about.

 

My thoughts exactly. $2000 and for a GTX 460M equipped laptop? IMO the Mobility Radeon 5870 is better.

 

Nah, it's a good choice considering it's new tech - not the GPU, but the mobo & proc. And because it's AW, he can crossfire/SLI two newer GPUs when they're released, and sell his old one.

I really do think the price premium is worth it if you're the type of person that wants the ease of access and the fact that dell won't void your warranty when you upgrade.

Really, the G73 is great (mine is, anyways) and I've got the technical skills to upgrade it if there are any options ever available. But with an AW rig, you KNOW there will be options. Non warranty-voiding ones.

 

For those curious about how the new Alienware M17x-R3 (9 lbs, thinner than the G73) matches up against the Asus G73SW (sandy bridge version), I created a configuration sheet with similar specs for both machines and a list of features each has. I've attached it to this post. In the sheet, I added on costs for lighting effects with the G73 since Asus doesn't feature it with teh system and it's added by reseller. Also note that those generic lights added by resellers are nowhere near as functional as what Alienware builds into the M17x (see my sig for what Alienfx are capable of doing). The Asus lighting effects added by resellers are static and fixed from what I can tell. Lastly, the M17x-R3 has already been discounted by $250 by Dell and if you call in to order, further discounts can be obtained. There's also coupons for 17% off floating around on eBay.

DCx--the new M17x-R3 is a slim profile single GPU notebook so it will not have dual cards. The rumored M18x will be taking care of that. Also, the new M17x-R3 will not be limited to 460M GTX, Dell already has the GTX 485M listed under it's technical specifications and the 6970M is also due for release with it.

 

This post makes me very happy today. Rove you rong time.

 

Wait... The M17x R3 weighs only nine pounds and it's thinner than a g73? Where are you getting these spec Joker, as Dell's website is listing it as weighing almost 12 lbs and over 2 inches thick. Are those the old specs for the R2?

If those are old specs, they should update them because I stopped considering the R3 for that reason. I am looking for an SB and 3D gaming / blu-ray laptop for traveling and there was no way I was going to carry a 12 lb behemoth through the airport and on and off planes.

9 lbs and less than 2 inches thick is however very doable for me. I looked at the g73 at BB and felt that it was fine to lug around trailing with, with perhaps maybe a bit too much depth. If the R3 has less depth, I'm sold. And if the battery lasts more than 3 hours I'm in heaven...

 

The roll out was a mess, I'd give it some time, let the dust settle and check again. Or, if you can't wait, just jump into a chat session and get your facts straight because dell most certainly has not.

 

How loud is the AW r3? For $1649 base w 1080p is the best deal I've seen in AW. I like how upgradable it is but wonder if it's as quiet as the G73. I don't want to go back to the noise my desktop used to make.

Cheers,

 

My info. was pulled from the M17x-R3 service manual, it's correct. The website guys just need to get their stuff together.

 

Thanks for that side-by-side. You forgot to add a 1 year accidental warranty, and a 2 year standard one to your DELL. Which means another $150-$200.

Too bad it doesn't apply in canada - AW rigs still carry a ~$500 premium over a similarly configured asus if you have equivalent warranties, and factor in the Dell discounts (10% from email coupon + EPP discount).

That's right, up here in Canada, AW is almost as bad a choice as buying Apple. Except, well, upgrade ability.

 

How user-customizable are Sager/Clevos/MSI's by the way? Based on the number of mods I've seen around NBR, AW hardly is be the sole upgradeable laptop on the market right?

Plus a similarly customized Sager NP8170 with 8 gigs of ram, an i7-720qm, equal in most specs save the 3D screen, comes up to $2088. Would MUCH rather get a Sager.

 

sager = clevo, and they are pretty much market leader on upgrades/customization. AW is a somewhat close second because often times, you need to order the gpu from dell (they use standard mxm chips but with special firmware or something), but everything else you can do alone and they are fairly easy to open. MSI is about equal to everyone else including asus, so not really.

@5150: AW is headed in the right direction with the R3... I would never have considered an AW because the price difference, sheer size and flashiness all screamed no thanks. Glad to see they are bringing the prices and sizes more in line with everyone else, I might actually consider an R3 if I were in the market. Seeing how slowly the gpu tech is advancing though, that might not be for quite some time

 

So if I were looking to get the r3 for a "good price" (by ordering over the phone), what would I try to get the base config + gtx 460m ($75value) + 1920x1080 60hz ($150value) for? If I use dell.com to configure, this comes out to be $1724. All this for $1500 would be good, right? Anyone have any experience in getting them to waive/cover your sales tax as well? We sure do get screwed in California with all these taxes

 

wow lol what a good job trying to make things look convincing.

Upgrading the G73's stock N card to the 6300 when there was no need, downgrading the two 500GB SSD HDD's for no reason because the M17X only comes with a single 320gb HDD.

You have to upgrade the M17X to 8GB of ram it only comes with 2, when the G73 comes with 8.

The G73 comes with the GTX460M while the M17X comes with the 6870 you have to add $75.00 to upgrade to the GTX460.

Dont forget the G73 comes with a bag & mouse. Looks like the M17X requires you to pay $100 for the bag, It also did not come with a 1080p screen so that has to be upgraded.

The M17X only has 1 year warranty and no 2 year option, it cost $300 more for the 3 year warranty.


Here is a M17X R3 configured similar to the stock G73
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9122/m17xr3.jpg

Cost $2300.00

G73 still has the better warranty, and the gaming mouse included as well as 250GB more HDD.

Here is the G73SW stock with the HDD Degraded to come closer to the M17X

Cost $1725.00

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6319/g73sw.jpg

A Difference of $500.00 !!!!!

I do not know how you came up with your numbers lol.

Plus nobody would pay for LED mods and stuff on the G73, we are not impersonating Alienware, if we wanted to have flashy lights and flashy alienheads we would buy a M17X, you basically admit thats a major selling point for the M17X, and I admit it is, and its about the only one it has.

I also love how constantly your like "the website is not the real price, you have to call and haggle sales agents to get a better rate.."

All that means to me is your

1.) admitting the laptop is overpriced and you need to get a discount
2.) that its annoying and painful to purchase one because you have to haggle instead of simply logging onto a site and buying it

Why should I have to do that? Why cant they just sell it at that price? Because they assume you, there loyal customers are idiots and will pay the higher price, then they make you feel good if you manage to get them to lower the price thinking you got a deal, when all you did was get the real price, and that price is still more expensive than the competing Asus product.

 

:yes:
+1

 

if we are doing apples to apples, lets use my exact order as an example:
Alienware M17x Soft-Touch, Stealth Black
1 317-6602 Intel Core i7 2630QM 2.0GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
1 317-6116 MOD,DIMM,4GB,1333MHZ,DDR3,2X2G
1 331-1347 Alienware M17x 240W A/C Adapter
1 320-1932 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920x1080 120Hz WLED w/ NVIDIA 3D Vision Bundle
1 320-1938 1.5GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M
1 342-2229 1.5TB Raid 0 (2x 750GB 7,200RPM)
1 313-8792 AlienFX Color, Quasar Blue
1 421-4655 Alienware Command Center Software, M17X
1 421-1400 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
1 420-9691 DataSafe Local BackUp
1 420-9956 Vista PC Restore
1 421-0092 DELL-DOWNLOAD-FLAG
1 410-1883 Adobe Acrobat Reader 9.0 Multi-Language
1 318-0395 Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
1 421-4541 Roxio Creator Starter,No Media
1 318-0424 Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
1 430-4019 Wireless 802.11 g/n
1 330-6348 Automatic Updates: On
1 410-9452 McAfee Platinum, 30 Day, MUI
1 939-0320 Dell Hardware Limited Warranty, Initial Year
1 939-0340 Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Plus In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis, Initial Year
1 950-3337 1 Year Limited Warranty
1 950-9797 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
1 421-1721 Soft Contracts Service Hardware Agreement for Alienware
1 994-3730 Warranty Support, Initial Year
1 330-0171 S and P Drop-in-Box Marcom forDHS Notebooks
1 421-1360 Steam and Portal Factory Installed
1 421-2611 AlienGUIse Theme Manager with Breed Theme
1 421-1574 Alienhead Chrome Blue
1 421-1593 Alienhead Chrome Blue
1 331-1349 Standard Nameplate

Also add in a alienware backpack and next day shipping

You areabsolutly right, you have to call and haggle, but i kinda enjoy that part lol.

my discounts are as follows:
$250 off (dell promotion, only applies if you get the nvidia 3d bundle)
$50 off (over the phone haggling)
$75 off the backpack (over the phone haggling)
$75 off for calling and threatining to cancel the order (yes i fight dirty)
grand total of $1950.08

i plan on upgrading to 8gm of ram go add $50
after a few months i will prolly upgrade to a gtx485m video card. Since its is upgradable i can do that. upgrades were too limited im my g73

 

LOL at "$75 off for calling and threatening to cancel the order"

485m surely beats the hell out of all other mobile GPU cards out there as of the moment. I wonder how much performance difference will be there between 485m SLI and 485m alone.

But comparing AW and G73 design, G73 still operates silently with better cooling than AW. I just wonder how much life span will an AW with SLI or XFire have considering it's high operating temperatures.

 

I dont know about 485 in SLI but from the benchmarks in clevo systems we have seen so far, one gtx485m is on par with SLI 460s. that is super impressive.

 

There is no SLI/CF available in the r3.

 

exactly, which is why getting a single kick- card is required.

 

Optimus is the kicker for me... It's too important to not have it, especially since its 2011. It's not that hard to implement such a simple feature, especially since the 460m is already capable of doing it..

 

Yea, the AW spec wise is nice, but the price is just killing me. If it wasn't for that price, I would of gotten the m15 back then ages ago.

That 460m is killing me, but that 120hz screen is just freaken awesome.

I just can't wait to see how the NP8170-S1 performs. HP failed due to heat (I think) with the processor. In any case, with that clevo, I'll keep the stock 470m card. I'll just throw in one upgrade to the processor and BAM!

Now if asus can do that, we'll have an epic win, at least imo

 

I know, eh? I love(d) asus computers, but having to void your warranty to upgrade is a pain, and lack of upgrade options is frustrating.

Considering I really only budgeted $400 for my computer (above whatever I got when I sold my g51), going from my g51 to a g73 was pretty nice. There was NO way I was jumping on the AW bandwagon with only $1600. that only gets you a foot in the water, and after market upgrades (and the hassle of trying to sell a used laptop GPU or LCD screen) pushed the end user price even higher that simply buying it configured the way you want it.

*siiigh*

Asus, when will you learn? OH wait, you DID learn - the g50/51/60 series was PERFECT for user access. Just ... well, having a decent cooling system would have been nice there.

Now that we've got good cooling in the g53/73 lines ... why does it have to be so ... warranty voiding ... to upgrade?

 

One thing to keep in mind when consitering upgrade paths for the AW,

Your paying about $300 for the GPU you get now (6870 or GTX460) if you decide to go pay another $500 to $600 in a few months to upgrade, you just added another $500 to $600 cost to your laptop.

Its not like you will get your money back for the included GPU, it will be a $300 paper weight. Nobody is going to buy the lowest gpu so forget about selling it.

Id imagine even if you could sell it for $50 or so you may need to hold it for warranty, if your laptop breaks under warranty you need to send it back with the original equipment unless the upgrade was done through Alienware then you could probably send the laptop with your new GPU in it, but I imagine that means you had to send your laptop to them for upgrade to keep the warranty, pretty much any user upgrade like that would void a warranty.

Well I dont know the policies at Dell/Alienware too much so I will not really dwell on that, just know about the additional cost and factor that in now when buying rather than forget about it and be paying more without realizing it.

 

all true, but i will be able to change the color of my keyboard lights with the touch of a button = priceless lol

actually being able to type without missing keystrokes will be a nice switch

 

Assuming all Asus misses keystrokes would be a falsity.

Some people just do not type well on chiclet style keyboards, others have said they fixed that issue with an update to drivers or bios.

At any rate the number of people with that problem are a very small %, less than 1% so dont make it out to be a larger problem than what it really is.

 

This.

I did a blind test with some of my friends and about 2 out of 5 swear they missed keys due to keyboard lag while I've NEVER missed any keystrokes in my entire ownership of the laptop.

Independent variable was the keyboards they were used to.
Those two friends were Mac/Dell owners and even to me (I adapt to new hardware very well ), their keyboards 'felt' radically different to me.

Edit:
Disclaimer: I'm not saying that there isn't a touchpad/keyboard problem present that doesn't need to be fixed, just that some users might jump to conclusions and assume they have the keyboard lag issue from what is just bad typing. lol

And the touchpad could be jumpy because the palm rest and the touchpad are on the same level, and not indented like most other laptops.

 

The default ram is 4 GB (not 2 GB) with the M17x and the reason the 500 GB drives in the G73 were dropped down was to bring the storage between the two configurations into relative parity. Had I left it with 2 x 500, the price for the G73 would have increased.

When I did the price check, it was $50. Just went to $75 recently but Dell now has a $225 off deal that includes the 120hz display + kit and nVidia 460M GTX WITH optimus support for 6 hours of battery unlike Asus.

I'll give you that, it come with a cheapo mouse and a bag. I didn't factor that into the calculation. The 1080p being an upgrade is irrelevant, the final configurations I listed in my price sheet took that into account.

The Asus warranty is inferior in every way. It may give an extra year but you have to mail it in and sometimes deal with 3 weeks to 1+ month for turn around times and even then they may send back a damaged system. I could pull up several examples on the Asus forum but I'm sure you are well aware of that. Dell's warranty, while not flawless, still provides NBD at home service which is far better than Asus's service. Not to mention Dell guarantees a system replacement after 3 failed service attempts. Personally, the extra year for Asus warranty would be meaningless if I bought one of their laptops and had to deal with sending it to them for every little problem.

If you can't read the sheet I made WITH the configuration photos listed right in front of you and figure out how I got my numbers, then there's not much else I can do for you in that regard.

So Asus is not trying to impersonate Alienware, yet Asus resellers are imitating it by selling lighting fx. So which is it?

Haggling is part of how Dell works. Whether you like it or not, that's how Dell has operated for a long time and it won't change anytime soon. When you do haggle, the savings can be substantial. I can't comment on it since some like you view that as a bad thing while others do not. I'm personally neutral about it all.

Wrong again. Unlike Asus, the M17x-R3 GPU's are MXM 3.0b compatible and they WILL work on all recent Clevo and Alienware gaming systems (M15x/M17x-R2) that comply with MXM 3.0b. The 6870m (the base GPU) is hardly a "paper weight". It could easily sell for more than a 5870M does right now on eBay. Seeing how a 4870M is selling for $300 on eBay, one would get substantially more for a 6870M/460M GTX.

Now an Alienware owner could sell their card, call Dell and buy a shiny new 6970M/485M and be on their way with 2x the GPU power of any Asus G73. Asus users would have to sell their G73 at a loss and PRAY that Asus releases a new model that supports the 6970M/485M. Oh by the way, Dell warranties aftermarket video card sales.

Finally this one's for you:

Features the M17x-R3 has that Asus G73SW lacks -

[X]nVidia Optimus support in order to use the Intel IGP for extended battery life (that's a big one)
[X]HDMI Input (not important for some)
[X]MXM 3.0b for GPU upgrades. (that's a big one)
[X]240 W power supply so the system doesn't power throttle and can accommodate future GPU/CPU upgrades. (another big one)
[X]Built in customizable lighting effects with official software support (important to me, maybe not others)
[X]Display port (minor and not important overall)
[X]2 USB 3.0 ports vs 1 on the Asus (USB 3.0 is the future, the more ports the better)
[X]120 Hz display option (I'm aware there will be another Asus model that offers it and it should be more expensive than the G73SW)
[X]1 x eSATA + USB2.0 Combo port (with USB charge function Support) (When will Asus add this?)
[X]9-in-1 Media card reader


For those that claim the G73 has better cooling than Alienware, I've go to ask, WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? The M17x-R2 always had better cooling than Asus G73's pitiful overheating 5870s and as for the M17x-R3, take a look at the attached photo and then try to make that claim again (hint: M17x-R3 can handle 100W GPUs). So does the M17x-R3 cost more than an Asus? It certainly does and that was never disputed but the gains over the Asus are substantial enough to make it worthwhile.

P.S. I hope you guys realize this debate is all in good fun.

 

Can't argue with the man's logic. Win.

 

So aside from ego, the other thing Alienware fanboys are known for is trolling? Awesome.

 

Huh? Keeping the stock configuration makes G73 more expensive?

The bag is fine, been using it daily for a year now and so sign of deterioration and it works. There isn't a single scratch on the cover of my machine, keeps it safe and pristine. And the mouse works for portable on the go solution. I don't need a massive Dell bag to just carry my laptop and a few books, nor do I want one.

There are just as many threads in Alienware of crappy service. Service tech coming to house not ever seeing an Alienware before and then wrecking it. Countless people sending in their notebook only having to have it lost and then haggle for weeks to get it replaced. I'd rather have Asus warranty any day and it's free and I've never had any issues with Asus support.

Your sheet and numbers aren't always the case, you always factor in haggling and other stupid BS when I can just go to Asus site and get all of this stock without having to do the BS you suggest for AW.

Changing keyboard light color is copying AW? Maybe, but who cares? Are you hurt over that? You yourself said the M17x R3 was to compete with G73s.

All that shows is that Dell pricing is wrong and they are overpricing products and they know it. I highly doubt sales reps are authorized to haggle over prices like that. Rather they are told they are authorized to give certain discounts if customer gives them issues and to make the sale. Reality, give them the actual real price they hid from the website etc. And that's just rubbish and garbage. Asus resellers tell you the price up front.

This whole GPU upgrade thing is tiresome. AW forum has plenty of users having countless issues trying to upgrade. Bios updates, vBios updates, just not working. And then having to ensure the heatsink fits or modding it to make it work and on and on. And in the case with Sandy Brdige and Intel, you have to upgrade the whole system for new socket anyways. Every 2 years to get a whole new system is fine as the most of us would want to upgrade the CPU to latest model anyways and be able to use the fastest ram also. Upgrading GPU on MXM is so overrated. You are proof as you constantly buy new AW models instead of upgrading them.

What is actually important to me.

Playing my games, Crysis, Metro 2033, Empire TW, etc my temps are never over 78C and this thing doesn't sound like a turbine. I'm ok with that, I don't need or want AW's cooling. I don't need a 100 watt GPU either. If I want a 100 watt GPU I'll buy a Clevo not an AW. Maybe if I was 10-12 years old I would want one.

Right. We know you love trolling Asus forums, it seems to be your hobby. I've never seen you say one good thing about Asus laptops or their users. It's almost as if you are paid by AW to troll Asus users and tell they bought crap and buy AW instead.

P.S. I think AW machines are great machines for those who want them. I think G73 are great machines vice versa. Their design and target are obviously not the same. Clevo and Alienware if you need the absolute best like the GTX 485M etc. I do admit AW ports etc are top notch, they provide it all. There is no left wanting for something with that, even if I don't use any of them, so makes no difference to me personally. But I can understand if someone would want them. If I needed them, then I wouldn't have bought the G73. Either way, I still wouldn't buy an AW, I'd buy a Sager from the same resellers that sell Asus.

G73 matte and rubber finish is excellent. It's a machine I can take to class or work (I do both) and not feel embarrassed for using it. Yes I would be EMBARRASSED if I ever was seen using an AW. The price was right, I'm not willing to pay over $2,000 for a machine I know I will be replacing in 2 years. Even if I had an AW I would replace in 2 years. I want it all when I upgrade, latest ram, latest CPU, latest design. And I especially don't want to spend even a second talking BS with a sales rep to pay the actual price and not the BS markup price on a website.

And lastly again emphasize if I need a high end machine like AW, I'd buy a Clevo instead, I would not be EMBARRASSED to be seen with that machine. It's simple and professional looking. But doesn't matter, my next laptop will be a 14-15" thin notebook. If I'm still gaming a lot I'll build a desktop instead, I don't game at work or school or on the go as much as I thought I would be.

 

Come on guys, lets not turn this into a flame ware.

Both are great machines, and depending on your budget/style, get what you want. Everyone just play nice :-D

 

Would agree if AW trolls stop crapping on Asus users and forums. Suppose posting in AW forum and fawning over each others machine's isn't enough to stoke their ego.

 

Yes it does.

There are equally as many threads complaining of Asus warranty. Thus when it comes down to it, having service done at home always wins.

Sheet was taken with stock prices from dell's site, no discounts.

I don't care if they do or not. My answer was a response to Vicious claiming they weren't copying AW.

Haggling is as simple as calling in and saying, "is that the best you can do?" and 2 mins later they check with their supervisor and come back at you with a lower price. Really, it's that easy. Is it unfair to those that are unaware of this? Maybe.

I don't know where you get your info. but nothing you said above has anything to do with upgrading from one generation of a GPU to another. vbios updates are the same ones Asus G73 owners had to go through because of AMD's incompetence. There are no heatsink mods needed to fit a card as long as it's MXM 3.0b

I've stuck with an M17x-R2 for nearly a year now. I changed from a 4870 xfire model to 5870m during that time only because I had planned to get rid of the M17x entirely and then later changed my mind.

78C with a 5870m out of the box? I can find lots of Asus G73 owners saying otherwise.

Why would you construe it as trolling if the thread is specifically about G73 & M17x-R3? I'd be trolling if I threw some one liner out there to get people riled up and disappeared. So far I've presented logical arguments. Apparently you are having a difficult time dealing with it since you've so far done nothing but wield insults.

Actually the target audience with the R3/G73 is similar. Just one costs a bit more for extra features and brand name. Now the R2 vs G73 were targeted at different market but not with this latest iteration.

 

5150Joker can't stop can you? Trolling Asus forums must be like crack to you. An addiction perhaps? TBH I think it's weird how often you do post in Asus forums and not using an Asus laptop or looking for one. It's obvious you have no intentions of buying any of the current Asus models. Baffling so which only leads to me to one conclusion, crapping on Asus laptops and users is your addiction, you can't stop.

 

For real? Asus isn't a brand name?

Seriously dude, you aren't convincing anyone in here. Please let the Asus thread be and go back to yours.