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    The Witcher 2 on the G73JH

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Daniso7, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Ifrin

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    MSI Afterburner
    I've got 1600x900 screen.
     
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    So Ifrin already set as me and it works fine (I even set Lod distance to Normal/Far). I have 11.4 driver - maybe 11.5 is not good for the Witcher2.
     
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    1 hour till I get home from work to play this awesomeness of all awesomeness.

    I envy those of you that are currently playing it. Pure Envy! :mad2:
     
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    hmm... works pretty horrible on my g73 on full hd. I get about the same fps on ultra without AA and on the lowest settings. Badly optimized imo
     
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    Dallers you the man but this runs absolutely terrible. Even on low..not lag but constant jerk.............Let me know your findings with your rig brother?

    Bought this laptop for its gaming prowess and now.....may aswell revert back to a desktop.....maybe an ini file will sort it.......LOL


    Update : CDProject says on the box that any config is optimised for gameplay and that is .
    Cant believe that low settings plays like . Anyway rellay upset and cant be to wait for a patch.
     
  6. Kevin

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    Does lowering the resolution improve the framerate?
     
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    Didnt arrive gonna have to wait until tommorow not happy with all these comments though is it really that bad? :confused: I will be happy if I get medium with 1600x900 and a good FPS although im sure updates will sort out the issues.

    Sounds a bit like the gothic 4 engine in that it didnt matter if you ran it low or high the frames per second did not change.
     
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    The Witcher isnt great on this config but x20 better than what i experience on its Sequel. Again cannot believe their spec settings on the packaging.....my 5870 must be wasted cos it says the recommended rig should be an HD4850....bullsh!t cos low settings take the p!ss...forum wise for the game..... watch how many complain...really annoyed

    ON THE BOX :

    NEW CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY - the REDengine, which adjusts the quality of graphics to the computer's efficiency and allows you to enjoy the gameplay even when using the minimal configuration...YEAH right oh!!!!!

    Wouldnt surpise me if the 9.XX stock catalyst drivers play like a dream though and its down to ASUS......again....I know PCs are unpredictable but there is always something to get on your nerves!!!!!!!
     
  9. Ifrin

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    Disable Anti-Aliasing, SSAO, Depth of Field and force off VSync in Catalyst Control Center .
    Reinstall GPU driver (I'm using 11.4), kill all unnecessary processes and defragment HDD.
    So far, game runs pretty good on my Asus.
     
  10. BaggyBizzle

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    Yeah point taken.... but why???? This is terrible on low settings and if i use the games optimised setting it chooses medium. It makes me wonder what rig they use to play the game in its full glory
     
  11. Chastity

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    Witcher 2 players on NVIDIA: Download the new 275.27 Beta's (on my Driver Page as usual) ;)

    Fixes slow Witcher2 Performance
     
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    Yeah I am reading everywhere that it's due to drivers... I hope ATI gives us something good this time
     
  13. Daniso7

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    Yup, the game is running terribly on my G73, tried all settings and each one's really choppy, even low...
     
  14. DRevan

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    I posted some screenshots with FPS here.

    1920x1080, Very High, Vsync OFF
     
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    You still got way too good FPS compared to me. I'm getting 22 on average if I'm standing still and it drops as low as 5-12 when moving. I'm wondering how can you be in the 30s? I'm using cat. 11.5, updated directx, did a defrag on my HDD but still absolutely unplayable. At this point I would be happy with a constant 25-30, anything but this 12-20 : / ...

    Of course all those demanding settings are disabled.
     
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    Having the same problems as most others. Can't break past 25-30 FPS even on Medium, and High runs the same as Medium pretty much.

    Running 11.5a Hotfix RC3.

    I think I'll go back to 11.4 and give that a shot, but I'm starting to think it's these drivers... people with 5770 desktop cards (same as our 5870m's pretty much) are getting much better performance...

    Turn off Depth of Field - Gameplay and SSAO for a big FPS Boost.

    You're on 11.4, right? I'm going to try those drivers out...
     
  17. Yareck

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    I told you to try 11.4. All of you with bad performance have 11.5. The only secret is to disable Ubersampling and enable Dangling Object Limit (which is advanced physics related). I got in FRAPS between 22-45 frames even with AA, SSAO and DOF enabled.
     
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    I'm on 11.4 now and my performance is the same. I'll try enabling the Dangling Object Limit.

    Edit: Enabling Dangling Object Limit gave me a decent boost in average FPS. But I still can't break past 25-30 FPS even with SSAO and Depth of Field off...
     
  19. Yareck

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    I don't know what to suggest you more... As already written I would also clean install ati drivers or restore clean windows (it should work fine on the machine with core i7).
     
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    Everybody on 11.5 should try 11.4 just to make sure. If you are the only one still having low fps, well... that's sad...

    lol I hope I won't get any problems when I'll get the game
     
  21. Disgustipated

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    My Windows install is only a week old... it should be fine. :eek:
     
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    The game patch servers are offline currently at this moment in time 2350 bst apparently for optimization. Dont know what for but a lot of people been complaining about ati performance and other things. Hope it is because of these type of issues.
     
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    What clocks are you using? The others might be overclocking different to you.
     
  24. Yareck

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    I use stock clocks. Maybe it is some other hardware drivers conflict or maybe you use pawer safe mode with decreased clocks? I heard about the patch as well, maybe it will fix performance for you.
     
  25. Disgustipated

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    840/1100 for my 5870m, and my i7 720m is overclocked to 1.8 ghz from 1.6 (so 200 mhz increase in turbo boost as well).
     
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    Might be an idea to overclock you should quite easily be able to handle 800/1100 clocks and although small will give the 5870M a much needed boost a year on from release. I can push 840/1135 before I start having problems.

    I paid for it a couple of hours ago and im waiting anxiously for it to finish downloading on my wack UK broadband. I will join you in your pain shortly dear fellows :D
     
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    Ok, a little tip for anyone that disabled Core Parking: turn it back on! I seemed to have gained a good 5-6 FPS by switching from my 'Gaming' power plan with Core Parking disabled to the default 'High Performance' power plan with core parking enabled. Turbo Boost seems to kick in better with Core Parking enabled for some reason...
     
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    I've been running @ 1920x1080 res, all settings maxed except ubersampling, SSAO, AA, and vsync all off. I average anywhere between 20-30fps on my G73JH stock clocks with 11.5 drivers.

    I wish I could push over 30, because anything under 30 you can really feel the sluggishness. It was as low as 15-20 during the first assault battle too. I just did a full Windows install along with all the latest drivers too, so I don't want to revert back to 11.4 drivers. Even with driver sweeper and ccleaner, I never trust driver swapping all the time.

    Ok, so I just tested. No matter what options I select in the advanced area, the only one that has a huge noticeable effect is ubersampling, with AA and SSAO giving only 1-2 fps, if that.

    I did, however, change my res down to 1600x900 (as per one poster here) and I immediately went beyond 40fps and averaging 35-45fps in my tested area. I will never use this res though, as it had the worst appearance than anything else. Running outside of native res just made it look totally horrible.

    So the only thing I can think of is running with ubersampling, AA, and SSAO off or downgrade my drivers to 11.4 if I want consistent 35-40fps. Is it certain that 11.4 drivers are giving better performance though, or is this just presumed based on previous postings?
     
  29. Disgustipated

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    Ok guys, I made a post on NeoGAF that I'll repost over here for anyone who had FPS issues like I did on my G73JH. I fixed all of my FPS issues, boosted my FPS by an average of 15-20 FPS! (from 20-25 FPS to 35-40 FPS avg in the starting area!)

    Here's the guide:



    Ok, I'm going to post what works for me on my G73JH, these settings SHOULD work for any other G53/G73SW and G73JH users. YMMV but I've gotten 10-15 better FPS by doing all of this vs. what the game was originally running at (20-25 FPS, now I'm at 30-35 FPS avg).

    ASUS G Series Laptop owners (or anyone else using modern Radeon or GeForce Mobile GPU's and Core i5/i7 CPU's), here's some tweaks/tips for better FPS!

    1. For ATI users, get the 11.4 drivers. NVidia users, get the newest beta drivers released today. Uninstall all 3D Vision drivers, Nvidia users! Huge boost in FPS there


    2. Download unclewebb's ThrottleStop. This tool is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for any Core i5 or i7 owner! It stops your CPU from throttling down and keeps it clocked higher during games especially. Install it, make sure to right click the icon and 'Turn On', and then go into Options and hit 'Unlock BiDirectional PROTCHOT'. After that, make your ThrottleStop main screen look like this!

    [​IMG]

    For Core i5 (non Sandy Bridge) and Intel Extreme Mobile processor owners, make sure to click on TPL and set TDP and TDC to something much higher like 60, 70, or even higher. It'll force Turbo Boost to clock higher consistently. On my old Core i5 430m in my previous laptop, I had it running @ 3.2 Ghz constantly on all four cores @ 100% load.

    3. ATI and NVidia users, change your Image Quality Settings in NVidia Inspector/Control Panel or Catalyst CC/Radeon Pro to 'Quality' for Texture Filtering. Also, force Vsync Off unless you're familiar with forcing triple buffering and checking for Vsync performance loss.
    MAKE SURE ANTIALIASING IS SET TO APPLICATION CONTROLLED!
    I also highly recommend NOT setting Anisotropic Filtering. It makes a 3-4 FPS difference in performance but makes angled/distant textures look MUCH, MUCH sharper. Maybe try 2x, 4x or 8x AF... 16x AF is pretty intensive on this game, which is strange, since 99% of games have no performance hit from 16x AF.


    4. Make sure your laptop is in High Performance power plan mode! Also, if you've previously disabled Core Parking (If you don't know what that is, ignore this) make sure to re-enable it! From what I've seen, Turbo Boost works much better with Core Parking enabled, at least on The Witcher 2. I got a 5-6 FPS boost from this alone.


    5. For Witcher 2 Graphics options, I'd recommend disabling SSAO, Motion Blur, Depth of Field - Gameplay (ruins FPS), Ubersampling, and Vertical Sync. Disable Bloom as well, it makes the game uglier and it loses detail (in my opinion) and costs FPS.

    ENABLE Dangling Objects Limit. Set AntiAliasing on or off depending on your resolution/tastes,
    Texture Memory Size to Large or Very Large, Shadows to Medium or High, and anything else to Medium/High/whatever you prefer.


    6. (Optional) Overclock your GPU or CPU! If you need help, just ask. If you've got a Core i5/i7 Mobile and your BIOS doesn't support overclocking, you'll need to use SetFSB. I can help you with that. For ATI users, use Sapphire Trixx/MSI Afterburner to overclock your GPU. For NVidia owners, use GPUTool/MSI AfterBurner.
    My 5870M is stock @ 700/1000 (Core/RAM), and I've got it stably clocked at 840/1100 for Witcher 2. It'll really help at high resolutions like 1600x900 and 1080p


    7. (Optional but good to do anyways) Make sure your Intel Chipset INF drivers are installed properly! There have been bugs with Intel Chipset installers where it doesn't force Windows to use the new driver, so Windows keeps using some generic bull. Either go into Device Manager and check all your Intel drivers to make sure the dates/driver maker are recent and NOT Microsoft supplied, or follow these steps (Core i5/i7 Non-Sandy Bridge). DISCLAIMER: These are provided by an Asus employee (known as Chastity on NotebookReview Forums) that has set up a useful resource/guide for all G73/G53 owners HERE: G73 Series Driver and Application Reference

    a. Download and install these Chipset INF drivers: http://pcaudio.ath.cx/stuff/infinst_auto.exe
    b. Reboot
    c. Verify through Device Manager that it replaced all Intel drivers with recent versions. If you haven't done this previously, your system should feel a lot more responsive!
     
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    It looks bad because you have scaling set to Fullscreen. Change scaling to 1:1 or Original, and it'll look better.
     
  31. Disgustipated

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    Screenshots and FPS of the game with SSAO On, off, and 16x AF on (and performance hit). Note: These are taken off another poster's GTX 580 equipped desktop.


    Check out the FPS hit with 16x AF... enable 4x or 8x AF only for a much less drastic FPS loss.
     
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    Wait a minute, so you had ordered the game already which was supposedly on its way, but didn't arrive on time. And then a day later you just paid for it again and downloading a digital copy of the game? What happened to your physical copy? :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
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    Runs pretty good here, but didn't go too far yet. I decided to play the first one first so I'd have a save file to load.

    I have the 1600x900 Bestbuy BST7 model of the G73JH, running Catalyst 11.5a modded drivers. I run the game using the "High" settings and didn't bother changing anything in the Advanced page. Running on Ultra settings resulted in a bit choppy but playable framerate, and reduction to High gives me 30+ FPS 90+% of the time (I played through the first scene, but didn't bother going for actual FPS numbers).

    Game looks to be amazing though, and I'm eagerly anticipating it once I finish the first one.
     
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    Probably not getting 30+ FPS if you didn't check FRAPS. Depth of Field - Gameplay and SSAO kill FPS.
     
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    Faithful amazon my friend I WILL be getting a refund. Refused to wait till the 20th when they claim it will now come.

    Installed it just before I left for work I am so not impressed gotta wait till 5.30pm before I can get home and play it :mad: Trisssssssss! hahahaha.
     
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    I'm playing with Afterburnrer turn on whole time, and my fps is similar (SSAO and DOF on).
    I think 1600x900 vs 1920x1080 makes a big difference.
     
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    Depth of Field (Gameplay) doesn't affect my fps at all. SSAO does, but only slightly. Like Ifrin said, it's that resolution change that made at least a 10fps difference.
     
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    Nope nothing makes a blind bit of difference to my i7-740qm 5870m g73jh setup.

    Exiting triss' tent getting about 15 fps according to fraps whether it be low or high settings. Uber just makes it lag. Once i follow the king it picks up to 25 but no more on average. I have tried throttlestop, disable/enable core parking, different resolutions all the way down to 1280x720 LOLOL, 1600x900 the best overall with 11.4,11.5 and asus cd drivers no joys. TBH the cd drivers 9.xx etc are suprisingly good although gone back to 11.5. Must be an optimization thing unless its my ssd or graphics card problem which i doubt.
     
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    Thanks for the tip - these beta drivers seem to allow the game to run at a much improved framerate. I have only tested them very briefly but they do seem very promising.
     
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    Installing finally :D will update shortly how bad it runs for me.

    EDIT: Seeing 30-40+fps and perfectly playable for me. 11.5 standard. 1600x900 on high with SSAO+DOF+BLUR all off. Running clocks 840/1100 and cpu overclocked 1.93-3.23.

    Looks an awesome game.
     
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    I installed the Chipset INF drivers listed on the page 8 (and rebooted), but when I go to the device manager, the drivers under "processors" are still microsoft and date back to 2006.
     
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    I end up with no difference between SSAO on/off, but DOF and blur are off, running 1600x900, about 20-35 FPS. 20-27 gameplay, about 26-30 in small, enclosed areas, and surprisingly smooth during cinematics and conversations... factory clocks, and 11.4
     
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    Processor drivers are fine, makes no difference.

    Check everything else - USB controllers, PCI-E bus, etc. Make sure they're Intel drivers. If not, I have a fix.


    SSAO makes a big difference in FPS, at least for me it did. It makes a big difference because with SSAO on, the game has to render so many more shadows on almost every object.

    If you're on a G73JH or G73SW, overclock your videocard. It helps a lot. Easy 4-5 FPS boost with overclock alone.
     
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    Frames aside once you turns off FRAPS or similar apart from the odd slow turn when turning its very hard to see the low frame rate in game it is very smooth for such an overly powered engine. 30-40fps for me running high at 900p with a few extras on I really cannot complain.

    I expect once the driver updates and game patches start rolling out things will improve so im very happy that the 5870M still proves its worthy of the most demanding games when others claim mobile cards are not gaming.
     
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    hopefully witcher 2 hotfix coming soon..
    Twitter
     
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    Just installed the game but I don't have time to play it yet and I must finish chapter V from the first game. I will give news later :)

    Just wondering... there's a patch out? I didn't have to download anything and no patch pops anywhere. My version currently is 1.0.6, is that up to date?
     
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    i believe the current patch for tw1 is 1.5
     
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    The steam version of Witcher 2 is currently up to date, the GoG version was/is missing the day 1 patch.
     
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    I was talking about The Witcher 2 and I don't have the steam version
     
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    I never realized how much better looking the game is with SSAO on. I tried it while playing in the forests of Flotsam, and everything had so much more detail and a shiny natural look to it. My fps dipped about 3-4, but I felt it mostly when turning how harsh SSAO feels on the interface. :(

    One thing that bothered me though....

    Sometimes when I entered conversations with people in Flotsam (not cuscene based, but merchant based conversation dialogue), my fps would drop to 14-15. You can feel it too. The merchant will be speaking, but then as soon as Geralt speaks and the camera changes, my fps jumps back to normal (like 20-30 range). Then when the camera jumps back to the merchant again (same camera angle as the 14-15 fps), the fps stays normal at 20-30.

    I don't know what it is, but the initial dialogue coming from an NPC drops fps until the camera changes around.
     
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