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    Thermal Paste Apply on G73jh-A2

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by LuCkyM3, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. LuCkyM3

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    So guys i am newbie here.... i just want to know how do i apply thermal paste on g73? i already watch a clip shows how to tear off the pieces of g73jh but i don't find it useful...

    So, Do you have a new clip specificly how to apply thermal paste change?

    And then, what is the best thermal paste around?
    i'm thinking of AMX4, AS5 or IC24 ..which one is the best? Thanks a lot guys..
     
  2. Chastity

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    I think so far I'm the Thermal Princess Leader, and I used IC Diamond 7.

    To do a repaste, you need to disassemble the laptop, in order to flip over the motherboard. The you unscrew the heatsink, remove, and clean both the heatsink and gpu chip with high-grade (90%) isopropyl alcohol and lint-free cloth. (coffee filters work great) Now apply a 5mm ball of ICD7 to the middle of the gpu, and drop in place the heatsink, give a slight twist to remove air, and screw it back into place, following the number sequence next to the screws. Reassemble, and profit!
     
  3. Tim4

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    What about 10 mins wait until solvent will evaporate, as stated in manufactures applying manual?
     
  4. LuCkyM3

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    Hmmm i still don't understand... do you have any video maybe? Sorry.. this is my first gaming laptop, i just dont understand...

    Hey, if i bring my g73jh to ASUS Service Center, will they do it for me?
     
  5. ziddy123

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    Google for Youtube BTOTech G73 disassemble guide.
     
  6. Chastity

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    Get their phone number and find out.
     
  7. Sydero

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    If you're not comfortable opening up your notebook then don't do it. You don't have to apply new thermal paste.
     
  8. ziddy123

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    Ditto. If you are unhappy with the G73 return it. Get your money back and get a Clevo W870CU which will have great temps. The G73 was made for two things, stock settings on the HD5870M while remaining silent. Those who are having problems are those who overclock the HD5870M and the fan settings were meant for quiet when overclock needs full on speed loud. Clevo and Alienware will give that to you. You can get a Alienware M17x for around 2K with some discounts.
     
  9. LuCkyM3

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    that's the clip that i don't understand...


    Ok i will find it out


    i just not sure if i can assamble it.. :D



    OKay so IC Diamond 7 is good? What is the different of IC 7 and 24?
     
  10. ziddy123

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    The video from BTO is as clear as it gets. If you don't get that, then just forget it, seriously.

    Difference from ICD 7 and ICD 24 is just quantity. You get more ICD from 24 than 7, the carat and diamond compound are the exact same. Just one costs more for more quantity.

    Is it the best? No it's not. There is OZC Extreme Freeze, there is Arctic Silver 5, there is MXM 3, and Liquid Cool etc. All of these perform about the same. You can find results showing any one of these being better than the competition.

    But if you want to know what the resellers, XoticPC, GenTech, BTO and PowerNotebook are offering? Yes it's ICD 7.

    In general the results I've seen from various overclocking forums:

    #1 Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
    #2 Innovation Cooling Diamond 7
    #3 OCZ Extreme Freeze
    #4 Arctic Silver 5

    Personally I bought ICD7 since it seems to be easier to apply than Liquid Pro and Ken @ GenTech PC has had great results with it. I've already tried OCZ Extreme Freeze and can tell you it's easy to apply and it works great. But I want to see for myself how good ICD 7 is :)
     
  11. LuCkyM3

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    Okay then how do i recognize that HSF where i should restockk the paste
     
  12. Der Kommissar

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    I've also watched the YouTube video on g73jh disassembly.

    One thing I'm not clear about from the video .. Is it necessary to remove the hard-drives to get access to the mobo to repaste GPU ?

    I can't tell from the video if hard-drive removal is required. Can someone tell me as I'm planning to re-paste soon ?

    Thanks !
     
  13. ziddy123

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    You have to remove the HDDs because under the HDD are two screws you need to remove.

    The way G73 dissasembles is that the top is screwed to the bottom. So you have to remove all the bottom screws so you can remove the fan cover on top, the keyboard and the entire top.

    So yes remove the HDD and remove the screws underneath.

    What I would do is have different containers with labels. This way you don't have to remember where each screw goes and you won't lose any screw.

    HSF is heatsink? The one you want to repaste is the GPU which is the HUGE one. There will be two heatsinks to two fans. When you flip the motherboard over to get access, this one will be on your left or the BIG one.

    And to apply ICD 7 or OCZ Extreme Freeze. What you do is clean off the old paste from heatsink and the HD5870M. Use cuetips, that's what I use. To get the very last residue off, I use nail polish remover, one with no dyes etc. That will clean off the grease and air dries instantly.

    Then you place a pea size drop of ICD 7 or OCZ Freeze. Then place the heatsink back on top, give it a wiggle to left and right. Screw it down, and you are done.
     
  14. LuCkyM3

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    Heat Sink Fan...
     
  15. Dkumagai

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    I don't mean to sound condescending, but I don't think you should reapply your thermal paste. If the BTO video didn't make sense, you will have a hell of a time getting your laptop apart. Trust us on this one, have someone else or an authorized technician do it for you. Chastity mentioned before that MicroCenter would be a good bet if you're willing to pay to have the service done.

    If you insist on doing this yourself, the GPU heatsink is located on the right side of the board. you can see it when you take off the main access panel on the bottom.
     
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    Whoa... You don't touch the Heat Sink Fan. Why would you apply thermal paste to heat sink fan? That makes no sense. You leave that fan alone!

    It's on the rightside when you have the notebook assembled. To apply the thermal you have to flip the motherboard over so it will be on the left.
     
  17. gstboy

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    Coollaboratory is the best but it comes with a price, basically once you put it on and heat the chip up you will have a hard time getting it off if you want to reapply anything. It basically hardens and becomes a permanent bond to the gpu. Plus it is electrically conductive because it is a metal so if you dropl some on any of the connectors you will fry your laptop.

    ICD7 may scratch your gpu because of the diamond particles in it but that's only if you move it around when putting on your heatsink. It's probably minimal and it is better than the others. MX3 is not electrically conductive and won't scratch your gpu so if you want a completely foolproof way of applying a high end thermal paste to your gpu then use that.
     
  18. ziddy123

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    Actually Liquid Pro uses no metal and is non conductive. They also have a video that shows you how to remove it in a few minutes.
     
  19. LuCkyM3

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    so where i should apply the paste?

    Damn am i just like a idiot around?

    And is Tuniq TX4 is good?

    Now i already slightly understand the BTO video... but how do i assamble it???

    There is a pat of the clip that shows that i need to cut something behind the keyboard... how do i re-install "the something"?
     
  20. Dkumagai

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    HSF is an old term primarily used to describe heatsink and fan assemblies. The GPU/CPU are cooled with a passive heatsink/heatpipe that draw heat into a radiator and out with rear impeller fans. You will apply paste directly on the GPU die. You flip the motherboard vertically. Unless you are working from the LCD side, the GPU will still be on the right side.
     
  21. gstboy

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    Are you talking about the same stuff that I am thinking? I have a tube of the coollaboratory liquid pro and it looks like mercury to me. I don't think there's anything non-metallic in there. It looks like the stuff that the T1000 terminator is made of. It took me a while to spread it on my desktop 260gtx but that gpu is 10 times the size of the 5870m in our g73s.
     
  22. PulsatingQuasar

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    With these questions I think you should go out and buy second hand computer for a few Dollars and practice somewhat. Because chances are you will wreck this thing before you have it even disassembled.
     
  23. Dkumagai

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    Also, ICD does mar your shiny GPU die a little.
     
  24. LuCkyM3

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    What is GPU DIE?
     
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    The squarish bit of silicon on top of the GPU substrate. Seriously, dude, I'm not sure you should be doing this yourself. Have you ever even worked on a desktop at all? This was my first laptop disassembly, but I had a pretty good understanding of how everything went together. Where do you live, maybe one of us is close by. I live in Tacoma, WA, soon to be Seattle.
     
  26. LuCkyM3

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    I never done any mod to my Pentium D Desktop...
    Sorry guys being stupid around....

    But i really need to know...

    where do i should apply the paste?
     
  27. Dkumagai

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    On the GPU die... I mean, the square opaque glass looking thing.
     
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    If your laptop is shutting itself off when you are playing any game then you might have to consider sending it in to have asus do it for you or do it yourself and risk whatever comes with it.

    If you don't know too much about the components that are in a desktop or laptop then I wouldn't risk opening it up to do this. You may damage something unrelated that will force you to pay for an rma.
     
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    So the white thing on the Die is the thermal paste right?
     
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    Yes, the whitish-gray material is thermal paste, and poorly applied by the manufacturer in my case. It is relatively easily removed with high percentage rubbing alcohol (70%+) and cotton swabs. Make sure the die is dust/lint free before applying the paste. You sound pretty hell bent on doing this, but please take our warnings seriously. This process isn't for the faint of heart. It's not too terribly difficult, but there are a lot of things you can screw up if you're not careful.
     
  32. LuCkyM3

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    i think i gonna ask ASUS Service Center first then think whats next


    Thanks guys
     
  33. Dkumagai

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    I think that's a wise move. Good luck. By the way, what are your GPU temps anyway? If your memIO is under 100C then I think you're fine.
     
  34. bertio

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    Don't do it, your warranty will be voided.
     
  35. Chastity

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    WRONG!!! Your warranty will only be voided IF YOU BREAK SOMETHING.
     
  36. bertio

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    I want to believe you Chastity but my phone call two minutes ago says otherwise...any advice?
     
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    ROFL, thanks I misread on their site. You are right it is 100% metallic. I misread when it was talking about non-metallic, it actually said, it has no non-metallic parts.

    So yes, I agree with your warning.

    DO NOT PLACE ANY OF THIS STUFF OUTSIDE OF THE GPU DIE. It will fry your notebook. Watch the Coollaboratory video on how to apply this stuff first.
     
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    Dude just leave it alone... Your bound to screw up if you don't know the basics of it. And its not about learning how to do it. I'm confident in taking apart desktops and stuff but i don't in this mainly because of the keyboard. And from the results u've seen here, although many have had very good repaste done, they also have had things falling apart. For example Chasity screwed up her keyboard in the process, some others pull the speaker connector off the motherboard. And if that can happen to them, i predict something worst would happen for you. Either get someone who's confident in doing it other then yourself or send it in....
     
  39. Chastity

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    I should open a shop for G73 repairs.
     
  40. gstboy

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    Jury is still out on that. I just got mine back after breaking something so will let you know if I have to send it in again and they deny me the warranty.
     
  41. ziddy123

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    No jury is not out. I replaced the thermal paste on my GPU AND CPU. I sent it in for RMA for my idiotic decision to try MSI bios...
    - Yes that means my void yellow sticker was ripped.

    They have so far already replaced:

    - Motherboard (my keyboard lights borked)
    - GPU (the obvious)
    - Keyboard (Guess they were lazy to diagnose and said, screw it, replace that also!)
    - The screen (Again, screw it, we replaced the GPU, replace the LED also!)
    - And they have ordered the entire top cover to be replaced (I suspect tech ripped the ribbon to the touchpad and blue led lights, rofl)

    No phone nothing. Was told to expect it back early next week.

    And I know another owner who did the most extensive work documented on these forums for G73 cooling and his RMA went without issues.
    - Yes this means he did modifications to the actual heatsink and heatpipes.
    - Yes his yellow void sticker for CPU was ripped also.
     
  42. bertio

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    So where did you send yours Ziddy?

    USA?

    Fremont, ca?

    or Midwest (cant remember the place)
     
  43. ziddy123

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    I insisted on Fremont, CA. Argued with the rep for a while as he went back and forth between me and his supervisor.