Throttling ... no help

Hello !

It seem that i got a big throttling problem , but it only happens on BF3

Just did a clean install, now i got great FPS, but once every minutes ( sometimes even 30 sec ) , i got HUGE lags, my fps drops below 30 ( where it was between 55 and 100 before ) , and on the graph , my CPU goes a bit crazy , and GPU is also going up but the " draw " on the graph from CPU goes crazy for a few sec , then go back to normal ... Even if i don't move ! So it's not like if i goes on smoke or something.

I use Throttlestop , but it didn't help at all.

Any ideas ?

 

First of all make sure that you have installed Intel MEI ( http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/MEI/IMEI_Intel_Compal_Win7_64_Z7041197.zip)
Next step would be trying to switch over power profile to High Performance (and in Advanced settings try setting "Minimum processor state" to 100%, "Maximum processor state" should be 100% already)
Same in Advanced settings set in "PCI Express", "Link state power management" to "Off".

Also it's important that after a fresh install you use parameter "-overall" for installing the Intel INF chipset driver.

Maybe as a last resort you could try installing standalone DirectX redistributable package. (i mean the 90+mb version installer, not the web installer since the redist rewrites all the DirectX files that you had earlier and sometimes fixes corrupted during installation files)

 

Thx ,

I had already check max performance ( CPU minimal state and PCI e is ok ) , tried to install the latest MEI , reboot , still got the problem

 

Sorry to hear it did not help you

I'm gonna brainstorm for a bit and get back to you as soon as i have anything.

 

After all the problem people got with BF i'm wondering if it's not a laptop issue but just a baddly optimised game ...

 

I have it running flawlessly on high setting with FXAA(medium).

But then again i have my GPU overclocked...

 

I also do, but i can't run it on high settings ( i have the very same config as you ) cause i like to have it really smooth. So i play with only texture on ultra, rest on low, and AA on low so it's not so ugly and i'm near 60 FPS all the time.

EXEPT THOSE NEWLY APPEARED SUDENT FRAMERATE DROP :'( :'(

 

How do you have ThrottleStop set up? Can you at least post a screen shot?

How about running ThrottleStop with the Log File option selected so you have a log of your CPU's performance. When you start having these slow downs, stop the game, stop ThrottleStop and copy and paste your ThrottleStop log file into www.pasetebin.com and post a link here so I can have a look.

The Asus G73/G74 series usually needs to have BD PROCHOT unchecked to disable this throttling. Make sure ThrottleStop is turned on and there is a check mark in the Set Multiplier box and that is set to Turbo. If that doesn't solve this problem then try putting check marks in the 2 clock modulation boxes and set those to 100.0%.

There is always a logical reason when you have sudden FPS drops like you are talking about. You need to do some CPU logging with ThrottleStop to get things figured out.

 

What GPU Drivers are you using?

Are you sure you're set in High Performance and have the Asus Power4Gear installed?

There's also some other essential Asus software that seems like bloatware that you actually need but I can't remember off the top of my head.

 

I'll check Unclewebb solution and give you the log !

Yes smellon , i'm sure it's on high performance everywhere , but i do not have Power4Gear ( wich is , like every asus stuff, kinda bloatware ? )

I do not have any of thoses as it's a fresh install

The strange thing is that when i just did my clean install , i play 3 hours straight and no throttle ! SO it came after a few games , but i think i've change nothing on my laptop ... no prog install or else ...

Throtling should be permanent right ? No reason i got " often " the problem and not " always " the problem ?

I'll try to check the log anyways and send them ( tomorrow ) , thank you guys !

 

Throttling is very dependent on the game you are playing. Some games play just fine at the CPU's full rated speed. Other games that work the CPU or GPU harder can trigger throttling which will slow the CPU down to a crawl and will instantly kill frame rates. Just as quickly as throttling begins, it can also end instantly and the frame rates will suddenly return to normal. It can be temperature or power consumption related and sometimes it can seem random which makes it hard to track down. If you do a ALT+TAB in the middle of a game, you will probably miss what is going on. Running ThrottleStop with the log file option selected will give you some hard numbers about what is going on. The log file data ThrottleStop produces is second to none and it also allows you to correct the majority of throttling schemes that laptop manufacturers continue to use.

 

I agree on the fact that it depends on games , as proof , only BF3 seems to throtle on the several games i had.

But , there's no reason sometimes BF3 throtle , sometime not ...

 

It wouldn't hurt to try it.

I also did a clean install and only had to manually install Power4Gear and ATK Package and haven't had any throttling problems.

Could it be your wireless adapter? I've read that the Atheros wifi card can present problems like this. Maybe try reinstalling/updating those drivers.

 

Oh , good idea , now that you said it, i was on RJ45 after fresh install , and i first got the problem at friends and at school ...

I'll check all thoses ideas todays , thanks !

 

Up , this morning , no problem ... cause i forgot to launch my overclock ...

How can it be related ? Btw that overclock is far from being too high ... 895 Clock , 1470 Memory and 1790 Shaders

 

A 120Mhz increase on core is not something i would call little (15% overclock if my math is still valid )

 

Well , i mean " little " cause people here with the same config ( i know , all card are different ) plays @freq like 965 core oO

And the other problem is that i use to play with higher OC before clean install on the very same laptop with the very same game and never experienced such problems before ..

 

I read the thread but no one mention temperature ? (unclewebb did but OP need to tell what temp he is on ~~)
Higher clock = more powerdraw(depends if you up the voltage) = more heat
So overclock have everything to do with throttling.

BF3 throttle sound like heat related as it heavily stress both CPU and GPU.

 

That's why I asked to see a Log File. It will show when the throttling begins and at what core temperature the CPU is at when this starts to happen. You can also turn on Nvidia GPU temperature monitoring and add that data to the log file too.

If I was having throttling issues I would start by not overclocking anything. It doesn't make sense to increase your CPU or GPU speed if it results in overheating or throttling and you end up running slower.

 

The G74SX has best cooling I've seen on a laptop. If it's a temperature issue i would be really surprised.

 

Review Update Asus G74SX Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

The G74 had some throttling issues when it first came out that had nothing to do with temperature. I have no idea if a recent bios update has taken care of this. Throttling can also be triggered by power consumption so perhaps that is the problem in the G74 series.

 

Yep , nothing to do with temperatures ... after like half an hour of Furemark , it never get above 68°C with 920 Overclock , nothing to worry about in game at 885 ...

Tried the latest WHQL , same as before if not worse. Not related to beta driver. I'll try tonight to plug on cable to see if it's wifi related , i'm on the go this week end.

BTW , Chasisty was talking about a future bios update to fix throtling with Asus ingeneer , but no news ...

Considering the laptop is one year old, they :

- Don't care
- Don't know how to fix it.

( Asus , you can also put me a newer CPU free of charge ahaha )

 

Did you try CPU? as it sounded like CPU throttle?