True differnce G53SW / G53SX

As other here have already noticed - The gtx460 have 192bit contra the 128bit to gtx 560, but what does this difference really mean?

As I understood it the 460 wins when it comes to higher resolution when the 560 wins when it comes to around 720p gaming, can anyone confirm this?

Also - at least here in Norway the G53SW ships with the I5 cpu and not I7 - what will be the better choice for me when I prefer to game in 720p?

Thanks for all the help in advance, I saw that this subject frustrates other people as well so all info is appreciated.

 

The difference is probably going to be minor because the 560M is going to be clocked higher however the 128bit comparison shows that bandwidth takes a big hit 20gb/s in the 128bit 460M so that is going to affect higher resolutions because Bandwidth is how fast the memory can access to the textures to display on screen. Bandwidth is commonly not taken into consideration how important it is when buying a graphics card.

It has a huge effect on gaming performance especially on a laptop GPU that struggles to produce good bandwidth (bar the fabulous 6970M/485M which breach the 100gb/s mark). Overall do not necessarily aim for a higher width bus although normally it produces more VRAM, higher bandwidth etc but in the case of ATI cards they have shown you can get more bandwidth from a smaller bus due to different architecture. With Nvidia mobile cards so far it seems to be always higher the bus width the better.

 

They have the same performances. choose the cheaper one. (g53)

 

Dustinhome sells SWs with I7 CPUs in Norway, I recently bought one.

 

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Thanks for the answer, it helped since it started to make me a little frustarted.

Yeah, I just checked dustinhome and I saw they also had some i7 there as well, both laptops where price around the same price so is it any other difference between those two laptops if they both have I7?
One person mentioned the new sandy bridge will play a difference.

Thanks for the explanation - saw higher resolution on nvidia cards goes better with higher bits? I enjoying 60fps so I planned to play never games like bf3 at 720p so what would be the best choice for
me? : o

Cloudstrife: Vurderer, men erfaringmessig alltid så stress.

 

Any of the 460m/560m cards will not see 60fps+ in BF3 at least not on anything above medium, it took a ton of patches for people to see 60fps+ in BF2. Laptop GPU's are bottleneck normally anyway but these cards quickly become mid range which is why they are such a good price for the power you receive.

 

Yeah, guess you right there .. but it will be better then alienware m14x wth the 555m card that I have now. It seems that I going for the SX since noone of the cards are able to play over 720p it seems the 560gtx is a better choice.

 

Wrong^^ with an OC on the GTX 460, you can get the same FPS points like GTX 560 (Go for the GTX 460, cheaper, better for FHD, and the SX will have many bugs...)

 

Even if I OC the 560? Yeah, I have thought about the buggs and as you saying : newer aint always better. But it seems those two cost the same, appreciate your input btw.

 

I mean about the laptops. you can buy the Newegg's model for 1099$. The SX is $1405.53, so you earn 305$!! you can upgrade the RAM to 8GB plus/or buy a SSD SATA III!!! much better deal!!!

 

Can you link me it? im on my edit.. foundt it.. but its difficult to order thag to norway thanks to taxes when ordering expensive things outside norway. :/
cellphone so its limited browsing.

 

Newegg.com - ASUS G Series G53SW-XN1 Notebook Intel Core i7 2630QM(2.00GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M

The GTX 460M^^

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

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ASUS G53SX-A1 - XOTIC PC - ASUS Gaming Laptop

The GTX 560M^^

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

(Its the 192bit version^^, so think what will be the 128bit version... WORSE!!)

Both of the GPU have the same results... FPS... Bachmark...

 

waffle where are you seeing it priced for $1099??? I keep seeing a $1149 on newegg...

The only 1099 I found was the JW version which has a i7-740qm ... :/

 

Use this coupon:
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Price vs Power always the G73SW if you compare to the SX but if you are looking for a newer model then at least go for the G74SX with the 192 bit 560M GTX stay well clear of the 128 bit models.

Stay away from Best Buy as well.

In fact do yourself a favour and pick up a JH with the awesome 5870M

 

nuh^^ GTX 460M is better with the sandy

 

Not for gaming! The CPU is better only GPU benchmarks and gaming results apart from crappy OpenGL show the 5870M beats it.

Also when I put my 920xm in game over

 

I saw on all this but 17" is to big for portability since Im often home and travel alot as student. I used to have m11x and got the m14x and at 720p crysis2 is maxed out at around 30 fps, but that still not good enough.

Anyway, I saw one norwegian company which have the gtx560 with 1,5 192bit but the minium was the I7 2,2 which is quite expensive - as usual thanks for the advices, its appreciated.

 

460M 192 bit is what you should pick because 560M is basicly just a rebranded 460M. The difference between 128 and 192 bit is too big, especially at higher resolutions where you need bigger bandwith, memory bandwith. The texture fillrate is also much better with 192 bit.

If you`re looking for 15 inch, MSI have one, GT683R, with 1.5GB 192 bit 560M. Or you can do like what I have done the last 6 years, buy from respectable resellers in US like GentechPC and XoticPC. They can also do additional services to your laptop for an extra fee, like repasting the CPU and GPU with better paste so that your computer runs cooler, install new SSD and switch to better screens. Total price is only a bit more expensive than norwegian prices after paying customs, because the laptop itself is cheaper in US

 

How much more did you order cost? I consider a lot of options now, and browsing on the pages you linked til now.

I saw you linked to dustinhome as well in an earlier post, and I was looking at the asus g53 with an I5, how bad are i5 when compaired to i7 when it comes to gaming now and in the future? The I7 version does not come until like end of juli. =(

 

I don`t know if you are talking to me or not but,

MSI GT683R from Norway:
NetonNet
Total amount: 12490 kr

MSI GT683R from US (XoticPC):
XoticPC
8136 kr. + 600 kr in postal service + 2000 kr in customs.
Total amount: 10736 kr

With the laptop from US you get: Much better paste on GPU+CPU, 12GB RAM instead of 8GB, 1000GB HDD instead of 640GB HDD. And much cheaper


Asus G53SW from Norway
Komplett
Total amount: 8995 kr

Asus G53SW from US (GentechPC):
GentechPC
7636 kr + 600 kr in postal service + 1900 kr in customs
Total amount: 10136 kr

The G53 is more expensive from the resellers. But with the US version you get a Quad core 2630QM instead of a dual core i5 2510M which is a huge difference, 6GB RAM instead of 4GB, 640GB HDD instead of 500GB and IC diamond paste on both CPU and GPU. They don`t sell the G53SW with i5s it seems.

Waffleboy linked to G53SW from Newegg. Newegg
6480 kr + 600 kr in postal service + 1620 kr in customs
Total amount: 8700 kr
With that you get a much better CPU, 2630QM quad core instead of i5 2510 dual core, 6GB instead of 4GB RAM. Cheaper than the norwegian model and much better. Good offer

 

Now look at this <3 I just build one from the GentechPC, you said that you have done this before Cloudstrife? How long took it before it arrived? Are you happy when order from the US? How is it to use a english keyboard and I suppose it comes with an AC-adaptor so I dont fry it as well?

If I order from GenTechPC, they also shipping with SSD so I will just trow one of those inside but how about custome the ledlight for it as well, cant you do it yourself ?

The diamondpaste seems nice, how much cooler will it be if you OC the gpu a little? But waiting for your respond first before doing something thought.

Otherwise I just order one from newegg and remove the HDD for an SSD myself, it needs a fresh format either way - if I going trough with this it will be kind of unusal to have english keyboard when at school but guess I manage. Yeah, and of course customise the ledlights itself - is it possible?

Edit: I saw that changing the HDD with an SSD was a pain in the as well, I have to think about this since one guide stated this was not fun (removing the keyboard etc) -_-

I did not find anything but does the G53 support optimus ?

 

Yes. The last 6 years or so I have bought mine from US to get the best of the best. 3 Asus laptops is what I have bought and I have used both GentechPC and XoticPC and they are excellent. When you order a laptop they will first wait for the payment. You have to transfer the money from bank to bank since they don`t take VISA. Then when they recieve the money they will build it: Put on new paste, switch to a better CPU if that is what you want, switch to SSD etc. Then they will test it to see if it is working perfectly. Then they will ship it. By my experience, Gentech is the fastest one, and I think it took around 3 weeks til I recieved it here at my postal office in Norway. They are available through email support and they answer withing 24 hours so no problem there. You can also call them if you`d like to work on your english skills lol.

I have never had any problems with my purchase from these resellers. Plus if you are unfortunate and do, the good thing about Asus is that it have global guarantee, which means that if something happens you can send your laptop in to one of the worldwide service centers, instead of shipping it all the way back to US. They have service stations here in Norway, Oslo.

I have no worries about using english keyboard. ÆØÅ is not marked on the keyboard but as you can see I can still use them because you can switch to Norwegian settings in Windows. You just have to memorize which key is the letters, ":" is Ø, "[" is Å, "," is Æ.

You get an AC adapter that works on all electrical systems. 110V - 200V something. You just have to buy the right plug, because it come with the US plug that doesn`t fit in our electrical sockets. But that is easy. Here you can buy it: Komplett

If you order SSD from them, they will install it inside the laptop for you. I have no experience with custom ledlights. They do that for you as well, but I guess you can ask them to not do it if you want to do it yourself although I don`t understand why.

Yes IC diamond is much better than the stock paste Asus use. I don`t know the exact temperature drop, but it is significant.

The newegg offer is great. If you order SSD along with it you have to install it yourself. The custom lights is actually some coloured paper they use I think. So you must find a way to get them, and install it right.

G53 does not have Optimus.

 

Cloudfire, you should check the EU retailers, it may be even more cheaper and without the hassle of shipping from US + customs. g53sw | Geizhals.at EU

 

you can also check kobaltcomputers UK to see prices for an equivalent/better G150 which is fully customizable (cpu/gpu/ram/hdd/optical/whatever)