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    Twin Turbo G73

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by apachehavok, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. apachehavok

    apachehavok Notebook Evangelist

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    hey everyone
    Twin Turbo. It says the work TWIN. Meaning, 2 things.

    The CPU and GPU. As I understand it, it ONLY overclocks the CPU and NOT the GPU.

    Also, with it enabled, scores seem to be lowered. If its supposed to overclock the GPU and its not, is that not false advertising? Also, is with the lower scored with it enabled?

    Something is not right here..
     
    apachehavok, Mar 3, 2011
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  2. mite_jan

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    if you want to really overclock use SetFSB and not that stupid button which gives you 100mhz
     
    mite_jan, Mar 3, 2011
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  3. apachehavok

    apachehavok Notebook Evangelist

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    Its not a question of my wanting to overclock. An advertised feature says it overclocks the CPU and GPU. Everything ive seen so far states it doesnt touch the GPU. Is this false advertising?
     
    apachehavok, Mar 3, 2011
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    Everything you've seen so far? What tests did you run to get these results? Post some screenshots please...
     
    svl7, Mar 3, 2011
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    It doesn't overclock the GPU. It overclocks the CPU and RAM. Its not even worth pushing that "twin turbo" button just use setFSB.
     
    xxERIKxx, Mar 3, 2011
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  6. mite_jan

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    listen to me carefully apachehavok
    the twin turbo button can overclock just a little becouse every CPU and GPU reacts differently

    even if it overclocked the GPU that would be probably 50mhz on the Core and the memory which is not too much (and no it doesn't overclock the GPU)

    like i said in the previous post if you are interested in overlocking you need to manually overlock not let some button overlock it automatically

    just forget about that button ... i use it in front of the guys that don't understand and impress them :)
     
    mite_jan, Mar 3, 2011
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  7. lvldeath

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    same here ^^
    LOL
     
    lvldeath, Mar 3, 2011
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  8. Chastity

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    I think you should start a petition and consult a lawyer to sue. The GPU doesn't overclock, and dammit, you should have everything you read in a forum written by people not responsible for having correct data!!!!
     
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  9. apachehavok

    apachehavok Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow you guys have something up your today.

    Yes of course if I wanted to overclock I will do it manually bit guys, if you buy a car with power doors sure you can use the remote to unlock it, but if the key hole never worked in case you want to manually unlock your car, are you just going to say "screw it?"

    The Asus site clearly states:
    "The power of the Twin Turbo button instantly allows a slight overclock to both the CPU and graphics card in the system yielding even more performance"

    When I use the Twin Turbo button, even at stock GFX drivers, nothing on the GPU clock changes. The CPU sure but never the GPU.

    Also, here:
    Asus G73Jh Review - Laptop & Notebook computers

    Here is just one of the many cases that shows lower performance with it enabled.

    Fire up 3d mark, do a run with it on, then do a run with it off. You will get a better score with it off.

    Sheesh all im asking here is if anyone other then me things this is odd?
     
    apachehavok, Mar 3, 2011
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  10. Xellon

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    Yea, its kinda hard to get out... :p lol, sry, had to say that.

    Yea, its odd. I think that button should of been a downclocker, then it may have some use. Default stays at normal clocks, enable twin turbo also enables turbo boost. That would of been a lot better..... Of course, there are other ways of doing stuff like that.

    There is an amd overclock tool you can download for ez OC for your gpu (unless u have an nvidia then not sure). Depending on which g73 u have, you could even enable OC though ur video ctrl panel with a vbios update.

    Any tricks that a button does normally means I can probably do it better (or someone else).
     
    Xellon, Mar 3, 2011
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  11. Chastity

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    The discussion has been beaten to death. In a nutshell:

    1) It doesn't overclock any GPU clocks. Just RAM and CPU.
    2) Intel TurboBoost makes the TwinTurbo obsolete.
     
    Chastity, Mar 3, 2011
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  12. CrappyAlloy

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    Well...

    We've always known (at least those of us that keep up here on the forums) that all TT does it slightly overclock the CPU by raising the FSB, when the FSB is changed (the base clock) so does the RAM speed, hence ASUS calling it TWIN TURBO, to be honest Ive never seen it advertised (at least here in the states) as TT overclocking the CPU and GPU

    I dont see anywhere on this page about OCing the GPU, what page are you looking at? Welcome to Republic Of Gamers! - G73Jh

    Sorry maybe I misread something? But we also know TT mode gives worse performance. Thats because it doesnt raise the FSB by enough to compensate for the lost multiplier. So no we dont find it odd, like you do apparently, we just find it useless. (Well most of us anyways, I cannot speak for everyone)

    EDIT: What Chastity said...*cough*
     
    CrappyAlloy, Mar 3, 2011
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    LOL...

    Ok stop stop.. I can not stop luaghing....
    That is way to funny.....

    Oh yeah, and when you get to court make sure you brace your self...
    As no one person will care that our Turbo button does not work as the internet said it should work.......

    It is a gimick no mater how you cut that cookiey up
     
    Hrogi, Mar 3, 2011
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  14. mite_jan

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    i want the twin turbo button to overlock my gpu to 790/1090 at least for me
    i think there was a program to remap that button ... so i need to make a shortcut from amd clock tool and remap it?
    but also i want when i press it again to bring my default clocks
    can i do that ?
     
    mite_jan, Mar 3, 2011
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  15. xxERIKxx

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    That would be nice.
     
    xxERIKxx, Mar 3, 2011
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  16. mite_jan

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    i think there is a way to do that but with 2 buttons (for example twin turbo/ overclock and splendid button/get default clocks)
    but i don't want to use the two buttons
    if there is a way to do that with only one button someone speak now or never :)
    if not i give up from the idea...maybe i will do shortcuts like CTRL+SHIFT+something :)
     
    mite_jan, Mar 3, 2011
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  17. apachehavok

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    Ok sheesh. It seems that it is mainly a conflict with turbo boost thats built into the I7 anyway. I guess that is where the lost performance is coming from.

    Never did I say I was going to bring anyone to court. Man you guys are immature.

    Now back on topic, remapping that button to toggle a manual overclock by the user. Now that would be useful...
     
    apachehavok, Mar 3, 2011
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    There was a thread on here a long time ago about how to remap the twin turbo button. Sorry but I don't remember the details. I never tried because... I must be the only person actually likes twin turbo.

    Some of the reviews of the G73 when it first came out said the twin turbo was for both CPU and GPU. At some least one of the G series laptops before this one had the turbo button work for both. Ironically, none of these were referred to as twin turbo. The term may refer to the fact that the laptop has two large exhausts that resemble the twin exhausts of a jet fighter.

    EDIT: Here's the thead. There may be an easier way though.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/516895-remap-twin-turbo-button.html
     
    WarWyrm001, Mar 4, 2011
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  19. CrappyAlloy

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    ^^Yeap and I never got a reply lol :(
     
    CrappyAlloy, Mar 4, 2011
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  20. mite_jan

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    your question was how to make a shortcuts and when you prees the button to activate the clock?
     
    mite_jan, Mar 4, 2011
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  21. CrappyAlloy

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    No, your referring to desktop shortcuts for AMD GPU Clock tool right? I know how to make those (had one for ctrl+alt+U for underclocking and ctrl+alt+O for overclocking) :D but ive stopped using them since I modified my vBios.

    My question was how to remap the TT button to activate a specific setting in SetFSB, and how to remap the splendid button to activate certain GPU clocks using the amd gpu clock tool (while keeping the splendid utility installed)
     
    CrappyAlloy, Mar 4, 2011
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  22. mite_jan

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    ahaaa well have you tried to remap the button with installed splendid or p4g
    interesting question...i don't think people keep the programs if they remap the button
     
    mite_jan, Mar 4, 2011
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    OK AFTER THE TT DISCUSSION GOES ABOUT MANY MONTH, I TESTED IT ON MY OWN.

    I USED 3D-Mark 06 AND I GOT THE 1600x900 PANEL WITH i5 PROCESSOR AND HD 5870 @ WIN 7 64 Bit H.P.
    THE NOTEBOOK IS REPASTED AND RUNS WITH MY OWN VBIOS. BUT ITS NOT OVERCLOCKED OR TWEAKED WITH DRIVERSETTINGS.

    @ THE FIRST RUN I GOT WITH TT OFF:

    12891 3D-Marks

    sm2 5592
    sm3 6473
    cpu 2832

    @ THE SECOND RUN WITH TT ON (via bios):

    13052 3D-Marks

    sm2 5736
    sm3 6652
    cpu 2812

    AS YOU CAN SEE THE TT GAVE ME MORE 3D-Marks, BUT WITH A BIT LESS CPU PERFORMANCE. I THINK THIS COULD BE BECAUSE THE NOTEBOOK WAS WARMER @ THE SECOND RUN AS THE FIRST TIME AND THAT THE BUS WAS OVERCLOCKED BY THE TT.

    IF I OVERCLOCK THE VIDEOCARD A BIT I GET AROUND 15 - 16 K 3D-Marks.
     
    Rückenmark, Mar 4, 2011
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    NO NEED TO WRITE IN CAPITAL UNLESS YOUR CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN :D

    nice results... I don't think it's because of the heat, my guess is either Turbo Boost has problems when overclocked or simply it's because of some background processes... the difference is so small.

    So it works, at least in benching, nice.
     
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  25. Rückenmark

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    öhhhm yeeeeahr my capslock....right ....its "broken"...........................>.>

    :D
     
    Rückenmark, Mar 4, 2011
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    Well I do want to keep P4G but I could let go of Splendid.
    Perhaps I should PM HellCry or someone else in that thread :eek:
     
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    i don't think Hellcry uses P4G i remember him saying that he use windows power options :)

    hey if you manage to turn on/off clocks on one button tell me how you did it :)
     
    mite_jan, Mar 4, 2011
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  28. DCx

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    Lot of people just stick with the windows power options. All the same options, no extra bloat to potentially cause problems.
     
    DCx, Mar 4, 2011
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    Rückenmark, Mar 5, 2011
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    Well first things first you need screenshots for your results.
     
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    hmm dont have but trust me the score is true
     
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    Ugh...how? Lol you have an i5 and only overclock your GPU a "bit" and you get 15-16K? My highest with my i7 840 OCed and GPU OCed is like only low 15K...

    I know, but it shouldnt matter. Plus I only like using P4G since im too lazy to make an additional profile in windows power options :D lol
    Im going to be rather busy for the next couple of weeks so if/when I find the time and get around to it, ill let you know :)
     
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    hmm i havnt tested it with overclocking jet but im sure if i do, i can reach this
     
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    The i5 is like 2.5-3.3 or something, fwiw... so blame 3dmark06 for not being quad optimized.
     
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    really? I thought it was, and even utilized turbo boost?

    Still with my OC my dual core turbo boost should be around 3.2ghz hmm...

    I was just curious :)
     
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    I still don't think your OC on the 840qm is going to match the turbo boost on the i5. Still, the difference is so small, it's not really an issue.
     
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    True

    Bet my Vantage score is higher though :D lol unless it too doesnt take advantage of quad/turbo boost

    You have a 920xm dont you DCx? And do you know anything about the remapping I was talking about earlier?
     
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    Sounds like he ran it at non-standard resolution. With the 1600x900 screen 3dmark06 switches all the way down to 1024x768 and you end up getting a much higher score. He would have to use an external monitor that supports the standard 1280x1024 resolution in order to get a score that is accurate for the sake of comparison.
     
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