Unlocking G73JH 920XM Multipliers

Hey, well the upgrade went smoothly, now I need to get things running optimally.

When I right click inside Throttlestop 4.00 after turning it on, I only get the following drop down lists:

When right clicking anywhere on the grey part of the screen:
Minimize
Exit

When right clicking inside CPU description/details box:
Undo
Cut
Copy
Paste
Delete



I need to unlock my 920XM (see my sig for full specs). I can't see Unlock Multiplier or any way to change the Multiplier above 15.0/Turbo.

I've changed TRL to 27/25/21/21 after I changed TPL to 80/72, but without changing the multipliers I'm kinda stuck. I added 'Extreme = 1' to the end of my .ini file, but that didn't change anything.

Help please :|

What should I do?

 

I don't understand why you're asking for this. The TRL and TPL are all you need to overclock your 920xm. For all intents and purposes the TRL is the unlocked multiplier on this CPU. The other multiplier setting might be useful for older CPUs or if you want to underclock but otherwise you can leave it alone.

Edit: just noticed we live in the same area. Lol

 

Please read my overclocking guide in my sig and also make sure you have read the entire thread by unclewebb that explains how TS works the link to which is in my thread I cannot say this enough if you misuse an XM you can fry your chip or worse your motherboard or brick you must understand how it works before pumping watts into it under load. Thermal protection can only do so much.

Trial and error to reach your highest overclock dont just raise them up without testing.

 

If the TRL is the unlocked multiplier, then explain (with the settings I changed above) why under Prime 95 the max my cpu goes to is 15 * 133 = 1995 MHz. This shows that the multiplier is locked at 15 max.

Read it several times, as well as the author of Throttlestop. I mean, I'll keep reading it over again, but something seems different for me. Could it be because I have an ES chip?

Also, I've only hit a max of 54 degrees Celsius on my CPU. I've been monitoring it closely with Throttlestop and HWinfo64.

 

You may have to raise the TPL setting. This specifies under what circumstances the CPU can use turbo boost. Also, if you have that multiplier setting enabled it will stay at the ratio you specified, ie. 15.

 

I did raise the TPL to 80/72, and I have Turbo enabled right now.

 

Adjust the multiplier to turbo, put a check into the box next to set multiplier, then uncheck it and click save. If this doesn't change it then there's something else wrong because this works for me. The CPU performance can also be manipulated to a certain extent by power management settings. Make sure that's not the problem.

 

Thanks, I'll try that when I get home from work at 5pm. I know I changed the power settings (to essentially make it all out performance with AC and lowest performance on battery) and I doubt they should conflict, but I'll double check the settings. I've got to be really close...

By the way, WarWyrm, you should get an SSD for your G73JH - they're awesome

 

That checkbox is kinda funny. If it's already set or checked and you adjust the ratio then you have to uncheck it and check it again to get the new ratio to take effect and that includes turbo. I just noticed this.

 

Weird. I could test it with the non-Turbo ratios first to see if those take effect. Then once I see how the program functions, I can get the Turbo function to allow the 27/ 25/ 21/ 21 multipliers that I want.

I DO know that some things about Throttlestop ARE working for me; for instance, just to see if anything was actually happening (don't try this at home), I raised my TRL to 28 / x/ x/ x (I forget the numbers) without raising the TPL. That caused a BSOD immediately, so I know Throttlestop does something...

 

Weird that you BSOD'ed, i can set the multipler to w/e i like as long as the TPL aren't change i still hit 15-16 multi at full usage:

 

Thanks for the screenshot. Is that how you normally run your multipliers, at 25/23/20/20? That seems a bit low for the potential of the cpu.

 

This was actually me using random values above the stock x17 x17 multis. I leave my 920xm at stock clocks except when i need the power, i run at x21 on 4 cores for simulations, TDP/TDC 85/75. I don't go over x21 for simulations since the program i use is nearly as rough as prime95, i see temps above 90 when running CFD simulations. I usually don't touch the dual and single core multis since i don't run CPU intensive single or dual threaded apps. wPrime gives me lower temps on 8 threads than COMSOL 4.0.

 

Interesting. I wonder what temps I'll get, cause I haven't seen the cpu go over 54 C since installation/pasting. I won't run Prime95 to test temperatures; only to test stability. While it may test temps for me, Starcraft 2 is the real test since that's what I do (or other games). However, I expect that I won't notice a great increase in performance much beyond 3.2GHz on all 4 cores. We'll see; I hope to test up to 3.6GHz.

Also, it looks like I had EIST off. This needs to be on in order for Throttlestop to control the CPU. I'll turn that on, check the Turbo button, then uncheck it. Hopefully that will make things overclock for me.

 

Confirmed: everything is working. I'm running 27/25/21/21 at 80/72 with max 90 Celsius Prime 95 (stable so far at 10 minutes, I know that doesn't mean much lol). Since these CPUs are rated good up to 105 Celsius (125 is shutdown temp), this should be a fine OC. This is, however, my first try at an OC... I could test a lot more Just wanted to see if this thing will actually run higher multipliers, which it does!

EDIT: Adding onto post lol. Has anyone seen an occurrence where 3 cores are maxed but the 4th is mostly hangin out? See here:

 

TJMax is 100oC for the 920XM and you do not want to be hanging in that region for long, anything above that is in the permanent damage zone.

When you see 3 cores loading fully but the 4th not that means you are throttling, either by heat or lack of power. Throttlestop will confirm this for you in the Co2 section all of the threads should be at 100% if they are not and they are bouncing/dropping when running a stress test that means the CPU is throttling. You might only need a few more watts to reach stability throughout the 4 cores though so just increase the wattage by 1 at a time and stress again. Also remember its good to set your DTS alarm to work once it hits your maximum temperature.

I require 93/75 to keep my 3.33ghz running over all 4 cores and after 10 minutes heat forces the CPU to begin throttling. Remember that you will rarely require all 4 cores running at 100% for a long period of time, you are stress testing the chip to find its maximum you can always push it up a little bit higher than it can handle if you dont intend to use it for intensive work. I rarely see mine go above 60-70% load overall even when it is at full pelt and the power required does not only depend on the clocks it depends on the amount of load over each core and how many are active.

 

Yeah, I got up to a max 99 Celsius on one of the cores with 27/26/24/24 and 90/75 running Prime 95. However, that is not representative of normal use at all. I tested playing Starcraft 2 at Ultra settings for all CPU details, and the highest the cpu reached was 75 Celsius.

I believe the CPU was throttling from a lack of power to the 4th core. I'll ramp up the wattage to 93; I expect that to solve the issue. Also, I bit on the Targus adapter. I'd like to test a bit higher clocks in applications I use (i.e. Starcraft), cause I expect temperatures to stay fairly low for normal gaming.

Oh, and I see a MASSIVE increase in performance in Starcraft 2. Massive meaning OVER 100 FPS at the lowest details (where I used to run) which is the one bottlenecked most by CPU. It's also simply a lot smoother. Again, I'm very satisfied with the performance of this cpu (and the performance of the cleaning + ICD7)!

 

I think you may just be getting confused with how the CPU works it will not stay at the multipliers all the time unless you force it too. Remember that the Intel turbo boost regulates itself depending on how much boost is required for the task at hand.

Load up Turbo Boost Gadget and run a stress test and set all of your multipliers the same ie 24/24/24/24 and then check in TS to make sure there is enough juice for it to be able to hit that amount you can also watch in HWINFO summary and it should say 3.2ghz across all 4 cores. You might need around 90/75 to get that stable.

Being able to see the difference in general tasking is near impossible you need to rely on the information from these programs to be able to see what is happening. As you mention in gaming you see the difference so it is working.

 

Oh, I've had Throttlestop and everything working properly since Friday night, Dallers.

 

What did you mean when you are said you did know that some parts of throttlestop are working for you then fella? Which parts do you think are not?

 

At that time, I hadn't tested the overclocks with Prime95, so even when I did overclock the cpu, I did not see the effects. Also, I might not have had Turbo mode on. I had some weirdness with having the box checked or not for Turbo.