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    Upgrade ASUS G74SX or ASUS G74SX 3D with external graphic card?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by MihaMiha, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. MihaMiha

    MihaMiha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello guys!

    I have only one fast question if is possible this 2 Asus models upgrade with extarnal graphic card like is written in this posts?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-egpu-experiences.html

    I heard that this Asus models have integrated graphic card. And I want to buy one of this models...and we all know that the graphic cards are in some months old and dont play all games in some years...for this reason so i maiby decide in further months to upgrade this pc with this option (if is possible).

    Tnaks to all for info!!!

    Miha
     
  2. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    The cost and your loss of your warranty would not be worth attempting this.

    The majority of people who did this have a lot of experience in external GPU's and modding and know the risks and it is normally done on laptops that are past it and are unable to be upgraded further. Also you will not see the full results of the card because of the limitations of the mobo.

    Not worth the time, money, hassle especially on a brand new G74 if you wanted more power from the GPU the G74 is not the laptop for you.
     
  3. MihaMiha

    MihaMiha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok tnx for info! I don`t want to do it now during the warranty because i hope this pc will work for at least 2-3 years without changing it (if i have to dissambly it). But than than when warranty goes and all, is possible to upgrade it such is written in posts which i linked?
    This upgrade will be done by my friend who are more expert than me in this, and i won`t have problems with this. :)
     
  4. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    It can be done yes I dont know if it can be done on the G74 as its doubtful anyone has tried but with the correct modding it probably could be.

    Is it ever going to be worth it. Nope.

    Get a desktop if you want a GPU and make use of its full power! :D
     
  5. MihaMiha

    MihaMiha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ahhhhh desktop is not "mobiled" such portable + this upgrade (with putted graphic card and power adapter in a small box)... :p :D Hehehehe

    I only want to know if the portable (or motherboard inside of it) have connectors with which i can connect this G74 models like that upgrade? :)

    If it have, i think that is not a problem to do it! :)
     
  6. Yiddo

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    The problem being that not only do you need the GPU you also need a PSU that can power the card itself so you will be carrying round a brick aka a small desktop along with your laptop.

    You have to physically mod the connectors on the mobo for the EGPU to be connected and as mentioned above laptops are not able to make full use of the GPU's power as a desktop would.
     
  7. MihaMiha

    MihaMiha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes i have seen that i need power supply + on/off switcher...this can be put in a small box + graphic card + 1 big fan and be the same size like 3-4 external hard disks in one. :)

    So it can be do with changing wifi card which are mini PCI express with this connector and connect it to graphic card...and all will be done... :p :D
     
  8. Chastity

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    I think people are trying too hard :)
     
  9. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    >.> does the g74 even have a expresscard slot? If not that would mean you would have to use a mini pci slot and if the g74 is like the g73 odds are its a half size slot so not sure that would even work or not.

    Pretty sure there's nothing about the egpu solution that would void the warranty though.

    Also since the g74 uses a dedicated gpu already it may not even be possible to uses the optimus optimized drivers which would make this almost a waste of time.
     
  10. Yiddo

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    Apart from frying the motherboard no not at all.
     
  11. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Well thats rather trollish.....the egpu uses regular connectors like expresscard and mini pcie. Not worth debating since its not even worth it for this laptop model.
     
  12. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    How is that trollish?

    'You' are informing the OP that using a new Asus G74 under warranty and attaching a GPU that uses more than twice the wattage of his entire laptop powered by a PSU made for a desktop machine and attaching it to the expresscard slot is perfectly safe and wont void it?.

    Im sure you will be happy to cover his costs should something go wrong as I dont see an Egpu sticking out the side of your G73 more like trollish advice if you ask me.
     
  13. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    +1. You'd need a notebook with an expresscard slot or accessible mPCIe slot that has an active Intel HD3000 primary video card. Only gaming systems with an Optimus configuration being:

    * Alienware m17xR3
    * Toshiba X770
    * MSI GT683R?

    The MSI GT683R was touted on some pages as having Optimus but I can't confirm that, nor can this Amazon review/discussion. If it does then it would be a better choice than the G73/G73 if wanting the option of eGPU NVidia connectivity. The eGPU would outbenching the onboard GTX560M.

    I'd love to see an updated G7x with Optimus and an expresscard and/or Thunderbolt port. The latter probably not in ASUS' business interest to supply.
     
  14. Rorschach

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    There is not a single case of anyone frying their motherboard the gpu draws the power as needed....by your logic people should be frying their desktops when they don't have a large enough powersupply or don't connect the connectors. The most likely scenario is the egpu does not function at full performance or not at all untill a higher psu is supplied.

    This is no different than people trying to put in a extreme processors or upgrading to a new gpu in their laptop. Worst case is you might need a better powersupply


    Nando-does the egpu support half size mini pcie slots?
     
  15. MihaMiha

    MihaMiha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello!

    Guys tnx for the answers! :) Such i understand till now is :

    -unnecessary doing it till is in guarante,
    -drivers maiby not support it (for now),
    -maiby in 2-3 years when it portable "start to be slowest", i can search this options on net and i maiby find it. :)

    But still i dont know one thing...G74sx or its motherboard have suitable connections to connect an external gpu?

    -expresscard,(yes or not?)
    -mPCIe slot,(yes or not?)
    -Thunderbolt port,(yes or not?)

    Tnx!!! :)
     
  16. Rorschach

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    expresscard = no
    mPCIE = maybe
    thunderbolt= no

    Bottom line is, its a waste of time for your laptop. The technology is here already to make the egpu a solution for people, the problem is your laptop does not have the connectors and your 560 gpu makes it not possible to use a optimus driver. Withought that driver your 560 is more powerfull than anything you could use in the egpu.
     
  17. ryanlecocq

    ryanlecocq Notebook Consultant

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    Quick question, partially on-topic. What ever happened with those express card/mini pci-e post processing cards that were discussed a few years ago? I remember a few CESs ago, Marvell was talking about a card that would do simple functions like AA to take the load off the GPU. So not exactly an egpu, but still interesting.

    This is just assuming that the OP is more interested in tinkering than needing an actual second core. You obviously can't do shading through a piggy-back card, but being able to do high-end AA at no cost to your GPU would be a nice add at the right price.
     
  18. evgasr2

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    heheheheehe , asus g74 has onbaord vga, and it has pcie slot , you can stick with egpu to boost your performance ,
     
  19. sarge_

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    Nothing like resurrecting a 6 month old thread and adding nothing of value.
     
  20. @tilla

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    evgasr2 is boring because he has no working notebook. :rolleyes:
     
  21. evgasr2

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    ya your 10000% correct I miss my g73 alot,
    and my scool hasnt started yet ,but it will on June , till that im free so no works for me . so im tryin fixin up my g73 and helping forum members. :D :D :D if anyone dislike this im very sorry. Il stop it by this last post.,
     
  22. quinid

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    couple months ago, I read somewhere(can't remember), manufacturers where toying with the idea of doing external graphics thru USB 3.0. Don't know what happened, but if its doable, i think there's money in that.