What is the hottest my G74sx should get before I get concerned?

Some games make it run at about 61-62, and I was wondering if that is too hot.

 

62??? in some cases i would say its almost not normal if it's the max temp on a G73, it's very low temps. You should not be worried unless it goes over 90 for a new computer

 

That seems pretty good actually. If it starts getting above the 85-90 range, that is when you would want to worry. Generally, the ASUS G series has the best cooling system on laptops, so it is quite efficient.

 

Perfect! I was just worried because around where I keep my wrist (arrow the arrow keys) feels rather warm on my hands. So I was worried in the long run this could damage something.

 

Unconfirmed since Asus doesn't ship with the most taxing and hardcore setups that Alienware and Clevo ship with. So I wouldn't disagree but I'd also say this is an unconfirmed claim. SLI HD6990M + 2920XM, and then you can make a claim if Asus generally has the best cooling systems on laptops since Alienware and Clevo have been producing laptops of that calibre for nearly a decade now.

The ONLY time Asus attempted such a system they failed. Failed so hard they had to discontinue the model. And the HD4870M which wasn't even that powerful of a card was running much hotter than they would have in a Alienware/Clevo.

Also MSI can cool their laptops better than Asus can with a single large, dual venting fan while Asus with dual fans still can't compete.

So personally in order for me it would be.

Clevo
Dell/Alienware
MSI

Then Asus in the middle.

Not far behind, HP, Lenovo.

Then Toshiba and the rest of the brands.

So to me, I'd say Asus is adaquate, somewhere down the middle.

Asus G73JH vs MSI GX660
17.3" vs 15.6/16"
Dual Fan vs Large Dual Venting Single
i7 in Asus runs hotter
HD5870M in Asus runs hotter.
HD5870M in MSI can be clocked higher and clocked lower and with lower voltage. Even overclocked runs cooler. And when idling, about 10c cooler.

MSI in a smaller form, has a better cooling system beating the dual fan system of the G73jh in from what took me a few seconds to think of, 4 factors. CPU, HD5870M cooler, cooler overclocked anc cooler idle.

AND THE MSI HD5870M HAS A PROPERLY FUCNTIONAL WORKING VBIOS WITH THE ASUS IS STILL BROKEN AND ASUS REFUSES TO FIX IT.

 

I dissagree, my friend has an M17x with the i7 740 and 5870, relatively same specs as my G73JH and my G73 is about 2 months older and runs much cooler and slient that his alienware ever did.

 

Tell your friend to check the Alienware forum. Alienware users can run HD5870M at 900/1200 overclock with a max temp of 76C. But then this all has to do with how competent you are. Your friend's Alienware could be running so well it will put anything from Asus to shame.

And Alienware M17x R2 users were running TWO HD5870M at 900/1200 overclocks and still running cooler than an Asus that was had the thermals redone.

Asus user can do whatever they want and will never get close to that kind of performance on the HD5870M and that level of cooling.

As for running quiet, I disagree again. Alienware have a super low performance mode which also means an M17x R2 with two HD5870Ms can have better battery life than an Asus can with 1 HD5870M, also because their VBIOS actually works and not broken. But then even if the Alienware was louder at performance mode I wouldn't care. I'd have my desktop speakers or my heaphones, so wouldn't hear it. And if I could overclock to 900/1200, I wouldn't care how loud my Alienware was, and still laugh at all the G73jh users.

 

Laugh away, for double the price we paid.

 

I've never seen so much butt hurt in one thread. Are AW users that insecure about their e-peen?

 

You'll be fine. I had to use Furmark Burn Test in order to push my G74's temps up just to make sure I don't have a bad temp sensor . In OC'ing my G74, never had a single temp spike. Looks like Asus did something right using those beautiful grills behind your machine.

Have fun gaming and don't worry about anything.

 

I guess I'm just used to the G51VX's overheating troubles, I'm definitely satisfied with this one.

But do you notice that intense heat around the area where the arrow keys are? Including that long smooth part above it?

 

Hmmm didn't notice or gave attention. Will play a session of Witcher2 later and check that area. But if you're not getting high temps from your monitoring utility, I'm sure warmth on certain areas of the machine is normal.

 

Too bad I have an Asus. And yes I am jealous of the performance the Dell HD5870M and jealous that they don't have a broken vBIOS. I wish I could flash my HD5870M to a dell vBIOS without bricking it, since Asus are too incompetent to get it right.

 

Don't worry bout it brother.

Truth is you came to an Asus forum and spoke the truth. You never once bashed it with an opinion.

I respect that and don't expect anyone else to really do that.

I am definitely not "butt hurt" ?? whatever that means lol

I always knew something was up with the way the fan works on this G73JH.. the fan always cuts on too late and turns down to early. Nothing even reads the RPM's correctly. I don't ever fear of overheating after repasting, but I do believe it is warmer than normal.

 

Yup, there are a few people who can do this. The majority? I doubt it. Also, having paid nearly $3k for those systems, most people who bought a g73 paid nearly a third.

So ... good?

Also, you're talking about a system (g73jh) that is almost 4 revisions old, and nearly 2 years old.

 

hahahaha....agreed!

 

Considering you paid for a broken machine, you shouldn't be happy about it. It's Asus that is laughing.

 

I am one of the victims that "payed for a broken machine" (the G73)
The problem were my temps getting over the limit and it would freeze, restart, crash most of the time. i used it in less than 1 year...
This laptop when stable would only make me happy for less than a month before it begins its crashing cycle... until it died.

I want this marvelous power machine back... but i'm too scared to buy another, the G74. I'm a student that used his last month of holiday to earn some money and buy stuff i want, i get 2k EUR for the month but to buy an ASUS laptop again without insurance that it will work perfectly unlike the G73... thats scary. I mean, the difference between desktop and a laptop is that building a desktop yourself u can be more sure that it will work perfectly than a laptop.

Thats why i'm also struggling to choose for an AW, Clevo or a Battalian from IBUYPOWER.

Sry for my English. I'm BE

 

I can help by saying IBUYPOWER should be eliminated from your options. It's just an overpriced Clevo. They don't make laptops.

As for Clevo I'd go with a Sager which you can get from XoticPC or GenTech. Both are great resellers and Sager comes with good support, and good warranty.

Alienware are great also. Nothing wrong with going that route. Full aluminum casing, best LCD in a gaming machine, best keyboard in a gaming machine and the best support. They always have functioning Bios and vBios. And at least they fix something when it's not working or they will give you a refund.

Asus just says tough cookies. Here we send you Gary. Gary leaves. vBIOS is still broken. Lots still have touchpad issues. Hooray.

 

They released a vBIOS fix that works. Their touchpad works. Their keyboard works. They updated their bios to support new GPUs. They actually listen to their customers. Dell also resolved the latency issues with the M15x.

Gee, that's a hell lot better than the support I got from Asus. Asus gave me the finger. My vBIOS is still not properly functioning, my touchpad still sucks on occasion, and I still have 5000us latency spikes. And instead of supporting new GPUs, Asus now has integrated them onto the motherboard! Awesome! Asus sure listens to their customers.

 

Speaking of which, where IS Gary?

He certainly isn't anywhere close to Gary Oak.

 

to be honest i have the g53jw and i could not be any happier i bought it for $1199 6 months ago, and i definitly didnt have a single CRASH or a single BSOD NEVER NEVER NEVER !

also the keyboard is just awesome, by just touching the keyboard it makes you feel that it is the best keyboard in the world, what ALIENWARE ? i admit that alienware look nice and stuff, but some COLORS IN the KEYBOARD also the MSI colores makes it retarded to pay an extra $500 to get it seriously ?! you care about the colores ? i mean whats wrong with the white color on the asus g series ?

also every company have some bad laptops, and i would say you just got unlucky with the laptop you had the (g73jh) and i am sorry for that, but belive me that could happen to alienware too, just get an rma or something .....

asus is awesome company and i love it !

 

You obviously have never seen an Alienware keyboard, and it has nothing to do with colors. And it's sad you think Asus keyboard is the best in the world. Sad for you, you've never used a nice keyboard before. Asus keyboard comes nowhere close to the level of quality provided by Alienware or Lenovo for example.

You also are completely ignorant of the issues for G73jh and apparently that people had keyboard issues with your model as well and touchpad. ROFL the G74SX just had a new Bios to fix it and there is already a thread about missing keys.

You may like your laptop but it's very obvious you are clearly not able to make a comparison between Asus and Alienware or even be able to judge my G73jh. This is clearly can be seen when you are oblivious to that fact the keyboard on your G53 is the same as the one used by the G73jh. My issues with G73jh keyboard have nothing to do with white lights, ROFL. It's insulting to even suggest that.

 

if you are such a fan of alienware why you bought the g73jh ? or even thought of buying an asus laptop ? if you know alread that the alienware and clevo and msi are the besT?

also i have seen and used the alienware keyboard and i like the asus keyboard and i am 100% satisfied with it.

go troll somewhere else okay also i want to know the answer why you didnt buy the msi of clevo or the alienware ? you didnt do research before you buy ? (that if you didnt even already knew that the clevo/msi/alienware were better) ?

 

Usual answer is because its cheap. Or cheaper, than the other offerings with an ATI 5870M.

Owners of the first generation JH (and not a refurbished, or cheap 2nd/3rd hand models but an actual full price JH) can't be faulted for lack of research as we sat through the most bizarre crop of issues (Fn+Esc freeze, PSODs that heal automatically, revisions of the card that just run hot because its red, floppy touchpad behavior and missing keystrokes).

Half of you accepts the fact that you paid a lower price and the issues with such a 'cutting edge' laptop come with the territory, and for the most part its true; but then we opened up the innards and discovered handiwork befitting of chimpanzees when it came to the thermal paste and heatsink installation.

You see, this is coming from G73JH owner who is living in the desert with a non-repasted, non-overheating, G73 complete with flawless touchpad and keyboard. But being around here since day one, I don't dismiss the issues others have with their G73s. The current crop of G-series laptops are flawed beyond measure. (with them fitting a non-upgradable 560m in their latest iteration the biggest flaw.)

On top of it all as you are a 460m owner, I don't think you can judge the state of disappointment we JH users feel when we compare our semi-gimped 5870M to the others on the market that perform better, cooler and overclock higher with WORKING FEATURES like Powerplay and a more complete vBios.

I supposed with the sheer amount of money you pay for an AW (given its popularity and reputation) Dell is obligated to help with queries but tis a weak argument. Most of us paid substantially for our JHs too. And even more in time loss, and time troubleshooting.

I love my G73. Without a second's doubt. I love it beyond measure. It works when I throw everything at it, has zero issues (lol be jealous every one) stays super silent, is light enough to be used for chest topping, and looks so damned good. In fact, so good I recommended the G53 to a pal of mine who needed a gaming laptop. He RMA'ed it twice.

But I had the funds I would have gone all out on a Sager (most likely no until I fix my need for backlit keyboards) or AW (until I can haggle the price down for the config I want to below 2.5k), and again, coming from one of the few, lucky G73 owners.

 

Well, the AW EU prices are down. Now its the time!
I'm buying this setup for only € 1.482

Code:

Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64-bits
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 2630QM (2.00Ghz, 6MB, 4C)
1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M
6.144 MB 1.333 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1 x 2.048 + 1 x 4.096]
320 GB (7.200 rpm) Seriël ATA-hard drive
44 cm(17,3-inch) WideFHD (1.920 x 1.080) white led lcd-screen
Dvd+/-rw-station
Dell Wireless 1501 wireless-N
9-cel lithium-ion battery

EDIT: I'm going to upgrade the hard drive to something fast i have lying around tho.

 

You could get that setup in a G74. Saving about 400usd in the process. With 750GB and 12GB of ram

 

Stick with the AW. It's much easier to maintain, take care of and in the future next year you can upgrade it. And you won't have the problems the current G74 users are facing.

The build quality of an AW just blows away what Asus offers. Not that I need anything more, this plastic machine has held up without any nicks or dings so far.

 

Which manufacturers would you guys rank in order in terms of build quality, and cooling?

Is Alienware really ranked first in terms of build quality and cooling?

 

Overall yes, Alienware is hands down the highest in terms of quality.

Overall beefiest cooling system would have to go to Clevo.

For best quality models, I'd have to go with HP EliteBook 17", Lenovo W70x series, and from Dell, the Precision series. Those are the three very best notebooks IMO, the best industry has to offer for professional level hardware.

Asus like MSI provide decent hardware specs at an affordable price. For the price I'd say the quality from Asus and MSI is good. But that's why you pay more for an Alienware or Clevo. But as I also said, you don't need an aluminum chassis (Alienware) or a full copper heatsink (Clevo). Cooling in the Asus is adaquate and the plastic holds up, unless you plan on playing drums on your laptop.

But for my next high performance notebook, never going Asus again. They just don't care, they entice you with decent specs and price, but that's all you get. All their notebooks have endless issues that are never resolved and the company couldn't care less.

 

Having both Asus and Sager I can honestly say that I miss my Asus as far as cooling noise goes. The Sager is much louder machine and sometimes it really irritates me.
However you cannot have both, either great power or great cooling or great sound.
Asus hands down for cooling and sound that their machines have, and Sager for the raw power.

 

So what temperature do the Sager laptops reach when at max load?

 

Sager forums has all that and more.

But from personal experience with an ICD repaste and the 460m, not higher than 70C.

 

Not to rain on your AW parade, hula, but, when the JH came out, Sager and Dell units all had high running temps. Asus really raised the bar on temp performance, and the others are all finally catching up.

Also, they've had their own boners with some model lines too. And some models still have issues that haven't been fixed either. Asus has a lethargy about it sometimes, but that is something I'm looking to address when I get started.