What's the point?

Sorry all, but I'm a noob. What's the purpose of re-doing the BIOS and vBIOS as many have discussed on this forum? Should you do so if there is nothing wrong with your G73?

 

No. If you are happy, don't spin the chamber and click the hammer

 

I forgot to ask this but, how do you set up the warranty for your laptop to ASUS? I've been pretty busy and never got to it.

 

I'd appreciate it Quagmire that you do not tell people this, as all GPUs have the issue, just that some are more tolerant than others.

It is recommended to upgrade you BIOS to 211 and your vBIOS to the new beta. You may not have problems now, and if you update, you will more than likely not have any in the future.

Just monitor your temps, and if they get worse after 1-2 months, especially if they rise to 100C or more, then I would look into getting a repaste of your unit.

 

there was a card that would have come with your Laptop. it has a sticker on it with your S/N on it. Fill it out, send it off. If you send it off within 60 days you get a further years accidental damage.

 

Why it is a beta vBios, is there going to be final release together with a new bios in the future?

 

At this point, no. May as well call the current one final, unless we start getting a bunch of GSOD reports.

 

Why are we silencing dissenting opinions now?

Before there was the VBios update, there were MANY machines that experienced absolutely NO issues, and for as many times as everyone claimed that EVERY machine was flawed and broken many of us saw no evidence in our machines.

Reccomended upgrades are just that, reccomended. And personally, anything ASUS is not willing to post on their website or have a recall for is not required in my book.

Do what you want with your machine, as long as you are happy with your machine and its performance it is not "broken"

 

I'm only giving out the official Asus line on the matter. If you wish to ignore it, then fine by me. It's not my machine. When it has problems, ask rschauby what to do.

 

Yeah I was about to update my VBios, but haven't had a single issue with the computer in any game. Even heat is not an issue. I'm going to wait till something happens and then update and/or repaste. No need to fix something that's working perfectly fine.

 

If/when it starts having problems, then simply update the VBios. Very simple solution. It doesn't hurt to not update at the moment if your computer is fine.

 

I wasn't notified of your official position.

Was there an election? Did it occur on this forum?

I can't find it anywhere on Asus's forum that we are supposed to submit to Chastity for all our G73 needs.

Why do we have a forum when we should just transform this into a Chastity Blog and get all our advice instructions there.

 

What can I use to monitor the temps please?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/516164-monitoring-g73-temps-fans-4.html

 

I'm only trying to point out that your advice is detrimental to the care of the notebooks. It's like saying it's better to not get a polio vaccine and take your chances if you are not sick, than to get the vaccine and prevent the sickness.

And, yes, you are suppose to submit to my will because I am so awesome.

 

Was it determined that stock drivers and Vbios cause physical harm to the G73 and its hardware? If so I would like Asus to extend my factory warranty in a prorated manner according to the damage that the defective VBios's have sucked the life from my machine. Pretty shameful for them not to compensate us for causing damage to our machine that we had no remedy for. I suppose the real damage will be prevelant among the "unknowing" community, who assumes their machines are working properly, in the years to come as the detrimental effects of the stock Vbios are made known. I'm glad I purchased an extended warranty, this is going to get ugly.

 

Hasn't it been determined that if you wait, and something does go wrong, you may never be able to fix it as something has actually started to fail in a way end users cannot fix...I'll have to find where I read that on here.

 

I'm not sure that's been definitively identified and very few OEMs would ever officially acknowledge such a thing but it can be assumed that several hundred thousand G73 owners have never heard of this forum and are just using the system w/o any difficulties. I too had no real issues as long as I had the 705/1100 overclock active but I updated anyway.

See above

I see your powers of persuasion do not work on all humans. I think regardless of whether we believe the problem to be more widespread or not, the fact that bios and vbios updates help mitigate the issues indicate we are not talking about nvidia 8000 series level failures on the ATI GPU part. All you can do is make the recommendation to those that will listen. You are obviously only reaching a small % of users but of those I'm sure some will stay put unless they have an issue.

Cheers,

 

What bios version and ATI driver are you currently running with? I didn't have any issues either when I got my laptop; bios 209 and stock ati drivers: 9.12. As soon as I decided to get the latest ati drivers, BAM, GSOD. I decided to update bios, vbios and ati drivers. No problems at all.

 

If you are happy and don't have issues, don't update, just leave it be. If you have problems then update. That's how I would do it also.

 

Thats funny because I called local Asus support center and they told me if having problems with ati catalyst drivers then I should update the vBios or rma. There should not be a problem using Asus version of vga drivers.

Sounds like "I'm only giving out the UNofficial Asus line on the matter."

 

Years? Two years and this laptop is outdated. I will post a thread in next year "one year and counting... no gsod no vbios no repaste."

 

It is actually much faster to do it online...just google asus accidental registration.

 

Consider it future proofing. Most game developers build and certify their games on the most current revision of device drivers and almost always recommend that you update before you play.

Without the vbios update, you're going to run in to problems eventually as new games get released. So why not update now while information is still fresh and there are people out there assisting those doing updates?

 

You don't know that and my self have downloaded all necessary files and copied all the instructions how do all the needed updates if I need them in future. This forum is not the only place were to find them by the way.

 

No, but it is where people like Chastity worked their asses off with Asus and finally got it fixed.

Honestly, some of the people posting in this thread has got to be some of the most stuck up, ungrateful betterweisers the internet has to offer.

Jeez.

 

If it is not broke dont fix it. notebookreview is a huge forum with tons of misinformation. there are tons of good info here but the misinformation far outweights it.

 

I'm going to choose to trust the ASUS Technical Manager when he says that all the notebooks have this issue over you, but thanks for trying to clear that up .

It's akin to the polio analog earlier here, not fixing a latent issue is quite odd if you ask me.

But each to his own.

 

It makes no sense to compare this to something like polio. If you don't treat polio, you die? If you don't treat this problem, then maybe down the line you'll have a GSOD. Then what? Simply install the new VBios at THAT time. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend? There is a big consequence for not treating a disease, but this is simply a computer problem that will be completely fixed whenever you choose to apply the update.
So if you don't have any problems now...then leave it alone. If problems start, it's an easy fix. No harm done by waiting except maybe you'll have to see one GSOD.

 

Yes, of course I mean it literally. The human race never uses metaphors, analogs or allegory in general when communicating.

I am, quite literally, saying to get polio and die because it's the same thing as getting a GSOD.

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I'm sorry, but what ?

People can fix or not fix their computers as they please, they all have the issue in some degree and peoples comfort levels of using broken hardware is individual.

Either way, a lot of work went into finding these problems and when these people (i.e. not me, but Chastity for instance) is told off by a ton of newly registered people not paying any sort of respect for the work that has been done, I get annoyed and others should as well.

 

Well said!

Disagreeing is fine (I had to be convinced to update) but being rude or just plain annoying isn't necessary.

Whatever, they've had their say, life goes on.

Cheers,

 

Well since you don't have the intelligence to understand a well written paragraph, I'll explain again. I know you don't literally mean that we're comparing this GSOD to polio (DUH...but for you I have to say it so you don't misunderstand), but the ANALOGY still doesn't make any sense. A GSOD is not a permanent damage causing problem. It is something just annoying. So updating the VBios can be done later if you start to experience the problem. It is NOT necessary to update if you are having absolutely no problems with your computer.

And by the way, I was never rude to Chastity or anyone else. And newly registered. I don't think it matters when anyone registered. That's like saying your post count makes you smarter on the topics. Wow, you registered a month before me too.

 

Seriously Chastity, I respect you and appreciate your many contributions, but I said nothing wrong. Your response goes off in a direction that wasn't even addressed by the OP.
He simply asked if he wasn't having problems, should he update BIOS(s). Speaking as someone who has spun the chamber and pulled the trigger only to get my head blown off for 9 weeks in dual repairs, I suggested if he's happy, don't create a reason to become unhappy.

Let's say he did his BIOS(s) and bricked it (seen it happen in windows and by DOS), going from a perfectly happy to completely miserable.

Agreed

True dat

Exactly , but I see this thread is turning into a bit of a flame fest, so I'm out

Q

 

I would say the biggest issue is that I cannot guarantee that the vBIOS fix will remain online down the road. I can see that after 6 months, you have a GSOD and then you find all the download links are no longer valid.

My new outlook on the matter is that if you wish to procrastinate, and wait until you have problems, fine. Not my machine. You have the information, do what thou wilt.

 

You are VERY right on that. I'm going to keep the VBios file so I could update if/when things go wrong.

 

Calling someones intelligence into question in a discussion is a personal insult instead of going after the matter discussed at hand.

Whatever buddy, you come of as excessively rude.

For the record, unless you actually know what causes the GSODs assuming it wont do any permanent damage is just that - an assumption.

 

I dont seem to find the text which read's all g73jh has this issue.

 

People take these things too personally.
Opinion is like an a**hole everyone has one but it wont change a thing .

 

"All GPUs manufactured by Asus are susceptible to GSOD failure with the stock vBIOS and Catalyst builds of 10.3 or later."

There's the text you are looking for. If your system hasn't GSOD on you, you probably have a C0x part supply GPU, which is more resistant, but not totally immune. These original part supplies run hotter, but are more stable with the original vBIOS settings.

If you want confirmation, feel free to PM Gary Key.