Who got the Battlefield 3 alpha?

My apologizes I didnt see this; anyways, I only have Black Ops on Xbox, sorry my friend, up until recently, the majority of my Clan (The Alloy Army lol) havent had computers powerful enough to run many of these games, we all have PS3's and Xbox's (and while I and two others have also always been Computer gamers), but the rest are only just now getting gaming rigs.

I never had the 720/740, but I know with all of the CPU intensive games I play (many rts and such) my 840 handles them all well, I am sure it would breeze through Black Ops.

 

thanks, was just wondering, since we ati user on BO get slower load time map and after the latest patch random fps drops on open maps which are CPU bound... (kuro tested that as well for me too, and a lot of alienware user reported this as well).

common, is an alpha after all :X

 

I was getting between 20-30 outside on high 1080p which is unplayable for me, I found little to no fps gain between high. This is on the G53sw.

 

Of course, but my point still stands. The final game will inevitably look better and run worse.

 

I am still confident...
Turning HBAO off was already enough the get an enjoyable frame rate...
Next will be Anti Aliasing, which is barely need for us with our little 17" screen, next shadow quality...
I bet those small tweak will be enough to get us into the 30/40 fps, then, we will see if that is enough or not...

 

After turning down all of those features, you are better off buying it for the 360 or playstation. Currently with 11.8 preview drivers we can run BF3a on high with 65-75FPS. Currently the game loads and runs perfect. The only problem is that the 11.8 preview drivers cause our 6990M's/6970M's in CF to not be able to adjust the brightness below the highest setting.
I'm sure that issue will be fixed in the final release of 11.8.

 

Same framerate with gpu clocked in sig and latest 280.19.

 

You guys are scaring me on my birthday... now compensate for it... if wanna gift me some CPU parts I'll grab anything xD

Joke aside...
I still hope to enjoy the final release with my g73...
If not I will build my desktop sooner than I wanted... (now toss me some component!)

 

The CPU is not the problem with the G73 its the GPU but I am feeling very confident after seeing the information on here about how well it performs on the 5870M, High at 30-40 fps is tidy we were expecting that at medium.

If you want more CPU power the only way to go is the XM

 

I am actually expecting BF3 to run on Medium from 30 to 40 fps on 720p in the final game. Lowest frame rates should drop to about 30 in very hectic 64 players games.

Then, i'll be very happy with BF3 on my G73.

 

I guess you are right about the players online, it will drop fps. The game will also look better at launch than in the Alpha so maybe it will be lower, maybe the same or maybe better of it gets optimized well.

 

I think people are overblowing how intensive this game will be. Looking at the past Battlefields, there will most likely be a fourth Ultra setting above the current high settings and the standard DX11 stuff like Tesselation. That's my theory, I doubt the final product will be worse performance wise, in fact DICE will optimize it even further. Plus with the final build you should be able to pick and choose what effects and what-not you want. Basically relax, you're not going to have to play at 720p or anything.

 

Yup the 5870M will handle it perfectly so stop people stop jumping on the OMG I need a Desktop bandwagon because an extra $1000 for an extra 10fps is just a waste of time, and lets be honest when your running around throwing grenades at people do you really stop to go...

'oh look there is SSAO and HBAO on the wall there, ahhhhhh splat headshot'

 

A desktop doesnt give you 10fps more, but sometimes 30 more while keeping the highest graphical setting.
On my desktop in sig as an example I'm averaging 65-74 fps with dips to 56.
Now the hd5870m is a powerful card but I wouldn't expect to run the final build which will have more dx11 features at 40fps steady.
I know that our gtx460m is a bit lower than the hd5870m, in fact I'm averaging 25-30 fps at 1080p with high detail - but - it's really true that the 5870m at 1080p can output 10fps more?
I want to see some real data. Gaming laptops are cool, since now we have 6990/6970/580m but still they are below some serious desktop machine.
I will prolly end up playing bf3 on my desktop if that means 60fps and the highest detail.
It's not the eyecandy,its the smoothness of it.Luckily BF series are made to be scalable and enjoyable at 30fps as well (just look at console versions) but still the difference is quite big.
For some users having the highest detail plus framerates over 40fps is a big matter.Some of them can even shell 3 grands on a laptop that graphical wise is comparable to a mid range desktop card (gtx580m -> gtx560 ti).
The difference is that with 1k you can build a monster Pc for serious gaming while having a laptop for fast gaming needs.I think that's what the others are saying.

 

Ok so i just realized that all the talk about the HD5870m outputting 30-40 fps at HIGH is with a 1600x900 screenres...

...so...

since i dont have the same panel, but a 1080p, i used the nearest resolution possible, 1600x1024 (didnt bothered to create a custom one).

These screenshots have been taken at that res,maxed out, while playing.
Fraps was used and the framerate is shown as well.
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4889/bf32011073119303589.jpg
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/138/bf32011073119304206.jpg
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2977/bf32011073119325049.jpg

This is an example screenshot of 1080p in an heavy situation (B was going to explode,plus smokes and flames due to tank and grenades). As you can see imho the framerate is still bearable. HIGH setting.
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/286/bf32011073119354120.jpg

Gpu clocked like in sig.

 

Its strange because this game in the 20s feels like BC2 in the mid 30's.

 

The subway and the subway cars from the screen shots on the first page look look quite similar to our metro (subway) system here in Montreal. Almost identical paint job on the cars and I see French signs in the tunnels of the screen shots as well. Is that map located in Montreal or something?

 

can anyone please test if logitech g35s works on the alpha?

g35s did not work with beta for crysis 2.( was patched )

and also did not work on the witcher 2 .(probably patched by now)

thanx

 

I used my G35's on the beta. The sound was fantastic.

 

Who cares. Even with monster rigs, competitive players play with low settings. Bloom, HBAO, DOF etc actually make seeing more difficult I believe and the pros agree. Get all that post processing crap off.

Also one thing people forget, games don't go for realism. They actually try to emulate film and movies. Lens flare? Please that doesn't happen with your eyes. Bloom? Again that's a lens/camera effect. The extreme DOF that these DX11 features have are no where close to reality. That type of DOF again is a camera effect, or rather a camera deficiency. Turn it off. Unless you are really hardcore about playing a movie. All the latest graphics claim to increase realism but that's so far from the truth and just plain wrong. They are emulating camera deficiencies. Tessellation? Are you really going to give a crap if the head you are aiming at is tessellated a million times?

For laptop users with BF3, turning off Bloom, DOF, Tessellation should provide plenty good FPS based on the reviews, previews, videos I've seen. Desktop rig is not needed.
- All you need for fantastic graphics is high res textures from great artists, decent shadows, decent parallax occlusion mapping (no need for tessellation). Ambient Occlusion is a nice effect, but it's not needed.

As others said, when you are focusing on gameplay, focusing on what's at hand, you won't notice if SSAO is on or not. So just turn it off.

 

somehow sadly, that's true, being in esl I can tell you that every pro cod player for example (same for others) will wear down everything...

Yet many people here aren't hardcore gamer, they want to enjoy the game with its stunning graphic
Me too would be enthusiast of playing BF3 with everything maxed out, just because "The G73" can do it!

But I agree with you that lowering some effect here and there does not make the game ugly, nor worse than gaming it on a console

 

Please, i need help plz, i have a g73jh, it's cant run brink, is that mean it cant run BF3 on high!!!?
and i need proof like video to show me g73jh can handle it!

 

lol 10char

 

Seriously? Brink was a load of poop, very poorly optimized. I remember the launch was horrendous, no idea if they ironed the issues out with patches and the latest drivers.

 

So is that mean that g73jh can run battlefield 3 on high! are u sure?
Do u have anything to show me kuro? Im so scared because if g73jh cant handle bf3 ill play mw3 and that is a horrible thing!!!!!!!!

 

There's absolutely no guarantee that G73JH will run a game that is currently in its alpha phase. Who knows the engine would be optimized for ATI parts later on? There's simply too many variables at this time to be certain of anything.

 

I just saw a video of a hd 5770 (desktop) running. So I think Kuro was right, G73jh can run battlefield 3!Here the link!!
This is on High!!
‪Battlefield 3 Alpha - AVENGER‬‏ - YouTube
This is on Medium
‪Battlefield 3 - Alpha Gameplay - Medium Setting 720P - HD5770‬‏ - YouTube

 

Brink is poorly optimised for G73.

Even till now it runs like crap on mine.

 

hum, normal setting battlefield 3 alpha still look awsome like high

 

Put it this way the G73JH will be able to run BF3 do you really think a game company knowing the vast amount of gamers will be using Class 1 gaming laptops would release a game that could not run on a Class 1 mobile card, the 5870M is a still high up in the class 1 list and people need to stop making out it wont work when it has not even been released yet. If the Alpha runs as well as it does then it is bound to work even with extra settings these can just be turned off.

The 5870M is near enough the same as a 5770 desktop card which is above the recommended requirements for BF3 so dont go out buying new setups thinking you need them because you dont and you will notice the only people that are claiming it wont work have forked out 1000's on a Xfire setup or are desktop fanboys.

Also Brink was wack.

 

I think we safe with this year releases. Happy faze

 

Why are you all comparing BF3 to Brink? BF3 will be a DX11 game, Brink was OpenGL 3, not even 4.1. Brink had numerous issues besides performance, just wasn't a well executed game.

The only game I would worry about performance on the G73jh is Rage, also an OpenGL game. This one I would worry because the game engine creator doesn't care about AMD. All his rigs are Nvidia and he's had ties to Nvidia for two decades and has never given a second thought about ATi/AMD. Rage I would worry since it looks like this game will be a blast, for Nvidia users that is

 

I wouldn't worry about rage. Isn't it going to run at 60fps on consoles? can't be too hard on the system.

 

That's a stupid statement. The PS3 fully supports OpenGL. And with 360, it's a to the metal development, meaning likely will bypass the API altogether.

Just because you can run a game on console doesn't mean it won't be hard on the system. Witcher 2 can crush nearly every PC Gaming rig yet it has been shown to be running smoothly on the 360. Metro 2033 can run well on consoles as well and that can crush just about any PC Gaming rig as well.

It's not about how low the settings you can set to get a game running. But with Rage I'm not even talking about being able to run Rage with medium/high settings on the bare minimum tolerable framerate. I'm talking about possibly months of waiting for AMD drivers and ID Software to release patches so it runs smoothly. Talking about G73jh users complaining that a G73JW with a 460M getting 10+ FPS more.

I have little doubt that BF3 will run just as well on AMD as it will on Nvidia on day 1 release. DICE has been working hand in hand with AMD for years now. DICE's DX11 technology is based on AMD support. BC2 DX11 was developed when there weren't ANY DX11 hardware from Nvidia to work with. And DICE continues to sport AMD's Gaming Evolved tag meaning DICE is working with AMD to ensure the game runs well on their hardware. I'm sure DICE is doing the same with Nvidia. ID Software is different, they don't care about AMD at all.

 

There was a Witcher 2 teaser video for Xbox 360, if that about 15 seconds of gameplay footage from the teaser is actually from the Xbox 360 version, I have no clue.

I do doubt though that the game will look better than running it on a G73JH. I look at the PC version of games compared to console versions and usually the PC version runs at a higher detail than Xbox360, also runs higher resolution alot of the 360's 720p max titles.

 

Why are you comparing the graphics of console to the G73jh? That's just dumb. And that's not what was discussed. If you didn't read it all, there was an implication just because a game is cross platform, it means it won't stress a PC system which is simply wrong.

 

You said, "Witcher 2 can crush nearly every PC Gaming rig yet it has been shown to be running smoothly on the 360". That's something you mentioned so I commented on that. So the reason I mentioned was because of that post. What I'm saying is that I'll bet the G73JH has better graphics than what's going to be displayed on the console and while this is an ASUS gaming forum I thought to mention that notebook. Taking the G73JH for example, when running on Ultra settings it won't run that well, after editing the user.ini it will perform well. I bet that the console version of Witcher 2 will not look as good as an edited user.ini version of Witcher 2 for the G73JH. If a game is developed for PC first, there is more likely of a chance that game pushing the hardware. If it was developed on a console first and is then a port, more than likely there is the option to make the game look better than the console counterpart, but most likely not as big of hardware pusher than one that was developed for PC first. What I am saying is that the 360 version of Witcher 2 will run nice because it is most likely a downgraded version of the PC version.

 

So far you have called two people on this forum stupid and dumb. They are far from it.

It is actually quite interesting as well when both of your replies so far have shown both of those insults in such a perfect light.

I agree with the claim if a game can run on a console at 60fps then it should not have any problems running on a Pc but only if we are not splitting hairs here if you were going to run it at the same resolution and graphical settings or near enough then I see no stupidity in that claim.

Then you claim that The Witcher 2 appears to be running smoothly on the Xbox 360 because you have seen a short trailer which for all we know could be running on a microsoft custom made behemoth of a machine and not on an 360 at all, as mentioned by BladeZero that the Pc version of the Witcher 2 runs at a higher graphical detail than of its console counterpart which again is correct information because the 360 will most certainly not have an Ubersampling option or produce the amazing settings available on the Pc.

Comparison is the only thing that we are able to use to estimate what will and will not work, people immedietely panic when a game like BF3 comes onto the scenes because its a game they will want to play for maybe 3-4 years and want to know if their current rig can handle it.

The JH will handle it and yes we all know ATI pretty much suck at OpenGL based games and lucky for us so far the majority of OpenGL recently released have sucked.

 

Lots of told going on in the last post. Anyway I didn't have enough time to get any decent footage, just a few snippets. ‪Care Bears 3: Fantasy Adventure.‬‏ - YouTube

Didn't help I don't have much HDD space and FRAPS eats space like nothing. Oh and ignore the title and description. <.<

 

thank you!!

 

Oh you're bad. We love you though . Is the agreement still in effect even though the alpha is over? Don't get yourself in trouble!

PS, how did you get 1080p recording so smoothly with Fraps? My BC2 will drop to 27 FPS when I start a 1080p recording.

 

Looking good! thats 1080p right? What ingame settings? HIGH?

Should not be a problem running this game on a G74 then

 

Dunno what your talking about, I just watched Care Bears what were you watching?

 

Thanks for the link! What was the settings???

 

Oh :/ the video is gone

 

Doesnt matter, beta will kick in soon and im in, ill report back.
Hope they added more gfx options this time

 

Can't wait for 29th...

 

27th for those who pre-ordered and bought MOH Limited Edition.

 

ya 4 local isp's is giving away 70 odd keys each for early beta, hope i get one

 

edit: nevermind, was looking at pics not found from a long time ago. Didn't realize how long this thread was