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    Who's waiting for 3rd gen Intel SSD to upgrade your G73?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by vally, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. vally

    vally Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know there are other good and faster SSDs out there besides the Intel ones, but the first 2 generations of the Intel SSD seemed to have set the standard for price, performance and reliability so I wonder what their 3rd generation has in store due out this winter. I'm dreaming of a sub $500 300gb, 300mb/sec average read 200mb/sec average write (if they finally figure that out) SSD in an Asus G73. At the very least the launch of the Intel SSDs seems to spur a flurry of innovations and "one-upmanships" in the rest of the SSD market.
     
  2. Almost Tactful

    Almost Tactful Notebook Consultant

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    Keeping my OCZ Vertex 2 Turbo :)
     
  3. KuroLionheart

    KuroLionheart Notebook Deity

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    I'm waiting until SSD's aren't unnecessarily expensive.
     
  4. IM0001

    IM0001 Notebook Evangelist

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    Just don't see SSD's being worth it in a laptop for performance alone yet. Since we do not get much more than a boot time improvement. I have an SSD in my desktop and love it since it is fully utilized but also paired with about 4.5TB of space with Raid 1 Seagate drives. On my laptop I already have used about 600GB so a SSD would cripple me for what I do. (Lotsa games + lotsa transcoding.) Once SSD's actually grow in size from the panzy 120 ish level to something like 320+ to be the norm, then I will get much more interested. Especially if the price adjust accordingly. For now I just don't see it in my personal future for at least another 2 years.


    One thing that really helps I would think would be power savings and even better, no moving parts. Very nice to see the light blink and have no sound come from the drive area.

    Corsair has the closest type of drives to the Super Talent SSD I purchased. Really good bang for the buck from them. (relatively)

    What we do need is something like one of these but in a normal SSD size lol...
     
  5. Jaycalgary

    Jaycalgary Notebook Consultant

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    I don't agree. SSD is a great improvement and once you run a laptop with one you won't go back. I would agree if the subject was Raid0 is a waste of time or that the newer SSD's are not worth the upgrade from current SSD's.
     
  6. IM0001

    IM0001 Notebook Evangelist

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    I ran the SSD that is in my desktop, in a laptop for a few months. It was pretty sweet but overall the performance improvement was not worth the price. The laptop did resume from hibernation almost as fast as from standby, but overall usage was not a huge amount better due to the lack of performance from the laptop itself. Even on the G73 we are not getting the full performance benefit we would is a similarly priced (and more than likely improved performance) desktop.

    Now again it is my personal opinion to not want an SDD in my laptop currently. It may change in the future with improved price/size ratios but until then, I don't feel like blowing $300+ on a small SSD where I can put it into a whole new GPU for my desktop. Especially when these standard laptop drives at 7200rpm are pretty darn quick these days and the sizes are really good price/size ratio.

    I feel that about this time, next year, SSD's will finally be a bit more common place and we will have the hardware to fully utilize them as well as there be a more reasonable price/size point. But as it stands, a SSD that cost 1/3 the price of the entire laptop just doesn't fit well yet to me.

    Again just me. Let my argument be a guide and not solid fact nor a full push on your decision. If I was given a SSD upgrade (hopefully a 256G or so ;) ) then heck I would not take it out lol.
     
  7. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    got a 128GB C300 SSD... good enough for me.. no upgrades till 2 years :D
     
  8. WebRender

    WebRender Notebook Consultant

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    Ditto.

    I'll be putting my OS on the SSD and use my larger HD for storage. I can't decide if I'll put many applications on SSD yet....still thinking it all through. Any advice?
     
  9. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I don't do anything that requires read/write speeds over the speed of 7200 yet. I would buy SSD maybe in 2-3 years when the prices have gone down.
     
  10. IM0001

    IM0001 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ohh, Just looked around and found a FW update for my SSD back home to add Trim support.. Might see a performance boost, who knows. Cannot complain so far on the old desktop.
     
  11. Almost Tactful

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    Depends on how you use them, I load 4-6GB of files at a time that need to be stored in RAM....now way in hell am I sitting here for 10 mins waiting on a mechanical lol
     
  12. vally

    vally Notebook Enthusiast

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    IM0001 I see where you are coming from and of course it's always tempting to wait till the next generation when things are faster, bigger and cheaper. I guess my thought process is this laptop is either a gaming desktop replacement or at least a compliment to a gaming desktop. If it's a fast and premium system, by far the main thing holding it up is the HD. Or stated otherwise by far the most significant upgrade you can make to it is swapping out the primary HD for an SSD. Plus it's a rare thing for a laptop to have the capability of holding two disks so you have can you have your cake and eat it to with a fast OS/App SSD and a large HD.
     
  13. diegovar

    diegovar Notebook Guru

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  14. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Actually I think Intel G1 dumped hard on its customers with the lack of TRIM support and only offered it in Gen 2 (idk if Intel kissed and made up to G1's yet).

    I watched SSDs for years before Intel G2 established itself and I felt that with it and Windows 7, SSDs finally came to form and I jumped in (prices were also better).

    Just the same right now, I'm not getting the impression that Sata III SSDs have yet come to form, so I'll sit and watch this one unfold over the next year or so.

    Q
     
  15. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Id wait for the G3 if it came out in Q4 2010 as it was previously said, but after hearing it got postponed again i just bought a 256GB M225 now and i have to say i dont regret it. My laptop is just much more quiet now with only SSDs in it, no more annoying clicking and unnecessary vibrations :).
     
  16. shoe3k

    shoe3k Notebook Consultant

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    Install one and you will see the difference. I'm using the OCZ Agility 120gb and this laptop flies.
     
  17. the_asus_guy

    the_asus_guy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Per your suggestion, I bought two of those last month, and super glued them to the lid of my G73SW laptop. For the connectors, I cut the SATA cables, and respliced them with a longer cable, then ran the wires out of a couple of holes I drilled into the back of the laptop (by the fan vents). I made a few mistakes, so I had to drill some extra holes, and covered the old holes with duct tape (which, annoyingly enough, I've had to replace already because of the cat, but that's another story). I then used the Windows 7 Dynamic Disk feature (since the G73 doesn't have a built-in RAID controller) to stripe them so that they look like one big drive (~2TB) to the OS.

    I've "accidentally" dropped my laptop several times since then (is what I told my mom...I actually threw it across my room because I got a low score on a game I was playing, but if she knew that, she wouldn't buy me replacement screens and outer shells), and, since they're solid state drives, the only thing that has consistently broken (each time!) was the screen. The data was still intact!

    I tried to RMA it, but they kept going on and on about making modifications voiding the warranty. I tried to play stupid, and asked "what modifications?", but they wouldn't budge on their policy; something about evidence...

    Needless to say, after fixing it all by myself with replacement screens, I can now run minesweeper in full 8-bit color at ~20FPS.