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    Will g73 get 6790m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by jamalm_23, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. jamalm_23

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    Does anyone know when asus is due for a refresh and how plausible it is for them to incorporate the 6970m??
     
    jamalm_23, Apr 7, 2011
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    Probably never. I'm assuming they're going to stick to the 6870 because of how crappy their stock paste is. I mean seriously, if you put that thing in with Asus stock paste, every unit is going to DOA. It's just too hot. Unless there is major switcharoos in their pasting department.
     
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  3. DH48

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    Talking about the G73 then never. A newer model well the g74 will come with a reworked and slower 460m. They might make a G74 with a Ati series GPU but even that seems unlikly at least for a nother year.
     
    DH48, Apr 7, 2011
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    Very unlikely even for 6870M, ASUS changed to Nvidia due to some marketing issue, it will likely stay that way for awhile.
     
    frosty5689, Apr 7, 2011
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    It isnt any slower at all. In 3d mark 06, it scores 13919 and the 460m scores 12855. according to Notebookcheck.net GPU Benchmark list
     
    riisdahl, Apr 7, 2011
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    Nope it comes with a GTX 560M, and it's not slower, according to notebookcheck.net, GTX 560M has 192 pipelines and clocked at 775 MHz, so it's basically an overclocked GTX 460M.
     
    hackness, Apr 7, 2011
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    ATI is using a special thermal paste for their new GPUs. I hope ASUS do the same....
     
    Hedonist, Apr 7, 2011
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    Sry i ment the 560 is a slower clocked if the original :D
     
    DH48, Apr 7, 2011
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    Seem for me Asus is stick with the autoswitching for VGA-dedicated CoreI7-embedded idea. In nVidia cards is automatic; for Ati/AMD you need to press a couple of buttons.
     
    Nekki, Apr 7, 2011
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  10. DCx

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    Clock speeds mean nothing. My pentium 4 runs at almost 4ghz, and my 1.6ghz nehalem is still faster.
     
    DCx, Apr 7, 2011
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    Well they count but only assume higher clocks are better on the same hardware generation. If you compare different generations of hardware you have to check if higher clocks mean better performance.

    Heck my 1.6GHz pentium M performed close to a 3.0GHz P4
     
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  12. DH48

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    Amm we talking about CPU or GPU :confused: Well the the 560 is 128bit and not 198bit like the 460 so the performance does get a smack in the .... :D + its only got 1gb of mem. and yes clocks are high but all in all the card seems a bit slower to me.

    Its not like geforce cards to performe just a little bit better when going over to newer series. Might as well have skiped the 560 series card in my opinion or try to get more out of it ....at least have it with 198bit memory interface.
     
    DH48, Apr 8, 2011
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  13. zAzq

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    That would be great. I mean, the Alienware 17x R3 already has a reported 5 hours of battery life with the ATI 6790. Maybe then Asus G73/4 would still be the "game-changer" it was when it first came out with the 5870 (I believe no other systems had it for a while).
     
    zAzq, Apr 8, 2011
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    It was already confirmed that MSI 5870 works in the G73JH, wonder what would happen if some1 pulled a 6970 out from an Alienware and put it in a G73JH?
     
    DRevan, Apr 8, 2011
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    The Universe as we know it would FAIL!
     
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    No but it would never be the same :).

    Seriously I almoust have bought one to check but changed mind and decided to went for prices to fall down a bit. I believe it would work but not 100% before some bios update/mod. As we seen from 5870m from MSI @tilla case.
     
    jmhdj, Apr 8, 2011
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  17. Yiddo

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    hehe I wouldnt put it past Asus to put some code in that if you tried you would get a big smiley face come up on screen with a caption 'Nice Try'
     
    Yiddo, Apr 8, 2011
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    Asus have become such a big disappointment. CES with virtually no new laptops in G-series other than a lame attempt with a refresh with a new CPU. That was it. Alienware, Dell, MSI and Sager went ahead and pushed out laptops with 6870M, 6970M, 485M and GT 555M. Even the middle class had no big refreshments. GT 540, that was it. Not even an attempt to keep up with the competition.

    Then came the news about G74SX. World`s ugliest laptop ever. I don`t know what have happend to Asus because i have always bought Asus laptops for many years now, but now i look for other brands.
     
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    Guess it could eventually go the way of the Gateway FX series, just slowly die out. Gateway made some serious headroom for low-budget gaming laptops now they are no where to be seen with anything current for gaming laptops.
     
    dkillone, Apr 8, 2011
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    It is a big shame. I really like my Asus laptops. All of them stable with no problems. But it seems you may be correct. Right now the cheap middle class laptops are the one who get refreshed (sort of). No attempt of trying to satisfy gamers. A bit weird too, because it wasn`t that long ago Asus made the new Gaming series, the legendary Dual fan cooling system to make room for hardcore GPU/CPUs in the laptops. Now it is just a hollow memory, completely crushed by the competition. I bet Asus have lost a lot of customers to the other brands
     
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    If you are unhappy with the direction they are going in, then email Gary. He is their Tech Marketing Manager, after all.
     
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  22. zAzq

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    Dear Gary:

    Bad Gary! Baaad Gary!

    Sincerely,
    Disgruntled customer
     
    zAzq, Apr 8, 2011
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  23. skygunner27

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    I so agree with this statement^^
     
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    Well, that's not necessarily true. An ATI 5850 (1GB GDDR5 version) has a 128 bit interface as well and outperforms a 460m. The 128bit memory interface width is sufficient for such a card and does not bottleneck it.
    And regarding the memory... take a look at what your GPU actually uses while playing a game ag 1080p. Most of the time it's about 500MB, depends on the game of course, but I'm sure you never get beyond 1GB (actually not even close to 1GB). More GDDR is mostly salesmanship as a lot of people still think the most important thing about a GPU is the memory.

    How the 560m actually performs I can't tell of course, but my guess is that it will be a bit faster than the 460m.

    Whether Asus will make a model with a AMD card in the near future is doubtful imo, as they never had a GPU choice in the G73 line. Sure there was the JH and the JW and then there's the SW, but these are all updated, newer models, and there has never been a GPU choice for these models. That's why I think the next update (G74) will only get the 560m. A later, updated version of the G74 might get a AMD card.
     
    svl7, Apr 10, 2011
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  25. zAzq

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    svl7, out of curiosity, what kind of application would actually stress the graphic card beyond 1GB?
     
    zAzq, Apr 10, 2011
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    I'm not sure about other software than games, as most applications which encode/render video or do graphical stuff are still mostly using the regular RAM as main memory. I guess some CAD stuff could use more or video encoding with a program that is optimized for the GPU and not the CPU.

    What definitely needs more than 1GB are maxed out benchmark of extreme hardware intense games like Crysis or playing such games at higher resolutions (desktop) like 2560x1600 maxed out (32x AA and similar) will need a lot of memory too.

    Im not very experienced with 3D but I guess there it's a different story with the VRAM and it probably needs more... but honestly, to play a 3D game at a decent resolution with a nice fps you'll need a dual GPU setup anyway.
     
    svl7, Apr 10, 2011
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    It only benches better, not performance.
     
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  28. zAzq

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    Ah, thanks, svl7. +rep for you.
     
    zAzq, Apr 10, 2011
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    GTA4. :)￾￾￾
     
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    The day Asus uses another ATI card in their gaming laptop , i will buy it. Otherwise i don't want NVIDIA junk.
     
    TomJG90, Apr 10, 2011
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    I've had terrible experience with ATI cards in desktops, the JH is the first mid-to-high performing ATI card I've got in a laptop (ati makes decent integrated solutions, but ... anyways)...

    And although I've had a bunch of problems at the start with the JH, if the ATI card holds up for another few years, I might actually start considering them again.
     
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    Dear Gary:

    We know you do your jobs, so let know the asus heads we need the 6970m for line refresment. (otherwise, just copy and paste the M17X-R3 specs)

    Best Regards.
     
    Nekki, Apr 10, 2011
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    Too...funny.
     
    skygunner27, Apr 11, 2011
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    I think asus may show to customers (who buying their top products for top prices) a little gratitude and could release a 6970 for asus G73jh/jw. It would be the great motivation for their customers (for us :)).
     
    oqix, Apr 11, 2011
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