asus G53 with GTX 570m

Hello,
I was just about to purchase the G53SX but after reading through this forum I’m glad that I waited a little first. The thing that I understand is that one should go for the previous G53 SW model, based on the gimped GTX 560m graphic card. However I do like the matte display which I believe is not available on the G53SW.
So my thoughts are if there is any information of model updates in the near future with maybe a card as in MSI the GTX 570m?

 

The Asus 560M is built into the motherboard. It is doubtful Asus will upgrade it.

To be honest the 128bit 560M is on par with a 192bit 460M it just suffers more from the lack of bandwidth.

It will perform if you intend you use the laptop specifically for gaming then you best look elsewhere.

 

Is it confirmed that the gpu is built into the motherboard? I thought thats only the case with G74. If its anything like the G53SW then it will be dedicated, though i doubt you could upgrade it.

You can get a matte screen from asus resellers.

 

G53SX's video card is not built-in on the mainboard like G74SX. however, the huge PCB and it's layout there is no way to find a GTX570M that will fit properly into this laptop.

 

How strange, so the G53SX does have an MXM 3.0 slot?

 

so its possible to place a gtx570m into a g53? the only problem is the mainbaord cant fit inside the laptop case am i right?

 

I don't think so because it's not possible to find the heatsink with same layout.

Yes it does, G74SX is the only notebook has 560M soldered on the mainboard that I know of:

 

Ken, would be possible to upgrade the 460m in the SW with 53sx gpu then?
Seems that the layout is similar..I'm not interested in it, just asking, since it's not the full card as the 74sx have..which sucks.

 

uhm yeah i get what you mean, what im asking is

if hypothetically you can find a heat sink that would work for an upgrade,
It is possible to upgrade the 460m then?

cuz i've read that its impossible to upgrade the GPU. i didnt know it was because of the space it would consume. I was thinking it was more of a hardware limitation in the mainboard

 

wow thats a very unique card layout :O

 

That's the same structure of the GPU lay out as the GTX460M on the JW and SW. Except the 2 memory chips on the right are missing in the GTX560M 128 bit version. The attached is a screenshot of my JW's GTX460M.

 

Maybe yes and maybe not. like zafota said there are hardware limitation. if you put a 560M in your G53SW then the MB BIOS may have trouble reading the 560M vBIOS.

If you search G73JH ATI 5870, at the time people were having issues with the vBIOS from Asus, some people borrow the vBIOS from MSI's ATI 5870, it worked but I think it create some problems, I don't remember what the problem was because it was a while back.

That's because Asus use same PCB, on the G53SX 560M's video card it even says:

G53JW VGA Board PCB Revision 2.0.

yeah it's probably bigger than Eee PC's mainboard.

 

It's the stuff like this that Asus does that boggles my mind. It seems like they go out of their way to put way more work into their laptops than they need to, all to come up with their goofy gpus.

 

And to think i bought the g53 because i thought hardware would be modular specifically the GPU.

i guess if you really want an upgrade you got no choice but to buy a new laptop.

the 460m wouldn't last another 2 years with all these GPU intensive games coming out.

The 460m is great, but not enough to really max out settings of some games.

 

I'm surprise the shape is a bit odd compare to standard MXM 3.0 cards.

Assumption question:
If we're attempting to install another gpu, it would require motherboard bios and vbios to achieve compatibility?

 

You cant install another GPU unless you can pull a GTX 560M from SX or wait for the G54? Assuming its still the same design.

 

Sorry to bring this thread back but I would be so tempted to get 2 modules soldered onto those blank spots.

 

Would it be possible to "make" the heatsink mount by drilling holes in the correct spaces?

 

Why bother? For a 100mhz increase in core clock?

 

I believe the 560M does run at a higher voltage, so unless you guys have managed to get your 460Ms at 1V then it should have an overclocking advantage.

 

Yeah, I've counted that in. ~800mhz OCd vs. ~900mhz OCd. Would anyone actually spend money and time and risk it just for that?

 

Yes. Yes they would

 

so i got a ASUS G53sx-A1 and the gpu isn't soldered to the board which i assume i can upgrade it. but i wonder if i can upgrade it to atleast a 660m or anything above the 560m. any of you guys got pictures of the 660M or anything above it. this is a picture of my GTX560M it would be really nice if i can upgrade this bad boy.

 

Something like the 770M should work, i'd read up on the G73 upgrade threads as what they have done should apply to you.