doh.. i ended up not buying g73jh

and decided to wait a little longer and see what kind of gpu nvidia is gonna bring to local stores like bestbuy or micro center.. and of course newegg.
i know they won't use 480m for these releases and probably gonna use 460m or 470m but since their release is right around a corner, i decided to wait a month or two for my laptop upgrade. even they end up not beating 5870 if they don't go 100c like 5870c and get similar performance, i will go with nvidia. or at least company is gonna put better cpu or gpu if i get lucky. like 740qm instead of 720qm and 32nm gpu instead of 40nm or something.
garrhhh.. waiting is going to be tough but i think i have no choice.

 

Vendors from XoticPC and GenTech active on the forum confirmed yesterday that the next G73 will use a GTX460.

No word on the processors.

Where did you see a 5870 go up to 100c ???? mine never got above 75c while playing 5 hours straight.

 

The people that get 100C either have faulty Thermal Paste or are in extremely hot zones in the world. Mine never reaches that temp unless I furmark.

 

furmark or whatever test u do.. it's still too high to reach 100c or go beyond 90c.. i just don't feel safe~ my 9800gts never break 83c regardless whatever stress test i do for all day long and i don't even use laptop cooler.

 

The higher temps are on the GDDR5 memory. The cores stay just as cool or cooler than any other GPU.

The 460M will be significantly weaker than a 5870, considering the 480M couldn't even show it surpassed a 5870M.

 

My G73JH which is going to be replaced never went over 85 and also playing games straight for 6 hours back and forth.

 

GTX 480m Is 100w. The GTX 460m said to draw 20% - 30% less heat and power. Thats still pretty hot.

 

I will be doing a head 2 head with the new G73 vs the current one. The new one comes with the 460 not the 480.

It is my educated guess that the 5870 will be better by a good margin.

 

OP I do think you should keep waiting. Not sure any other posters get your arrogance. I say let you wait.

 

true that, but the 460 will probably be more stable with better driver support. I'd trade in performance for stability, but only upto a point (i.e. like a 10% loss in FPS for better stability).

 

How is the 5870 not stable?

Its a great card, the 460 for all we know could have more issues (since its not really out there and tested yet)

For me it does not make sense to trade in any performance on a gaming laptop, most importantly so the GPU department since that is going to be the first part of your system to fall behind on new games and force you to buy a new laptop in the future to play new games at good frame rates.

That 10% extra may help you hold out longer or be the few FPS you need to play your favorite game at an acceptable frame rate.

 

even 460m should turn out to be garbage, i think in 2-3 month ati would release 5970 mobile at least to take the crown back from nvidia's 480m. either way, i think waiting few more months wouldn't hurt at this moment. i mean if 5870 just got released last month, oh, heck, i wouldn't wait but it's been like 5 months since 5870 came out and they release new gpu almost every 6 months. so yeah, go with ati or nvidia, it really doesn't matter to me. i am pretty sure i will be much happier after 2 months rather than buying laptop that said to have so many problems with gpu temperature and speaker problems.

 

playing on it for 2 months already and never had a problem since 1st day. got it, did clean install, and everything is perfect until now. mine never goes over 80c.... and btw, MOH is pretty cool

 

Then stop trolling and posting like an idiot...

And you are cracked if you think the speakers have problems... Most of the people around here don't like Creative software, but all you have to do is upgrade the realtek drives to the latest, including the HDMI driver, and even teh creative software has zero issues... I have bass boost turned on for everything and it works great.

If you think upgrading a driver is too much work, then you are going to have a tough time with most high-end hardware... Things are so damn complex they rarely get it right for EVERYTHING all the time (go look at release notes for any new driver, there are tons of fixes for tons of stuff all the time, so ALL systems are released with issues)...

And whoever said there was a problem with GPU temps? A few cases of people RMAing and that is it... and, if you notice, they got thier systems fixed under warranty... Honestly, 90% of the people sending it back only knew because of furmark and the likes, not because thier system actually had a *repeatable* problem in real-world use...

Now, honestly, I have a G73JH-A3, which is my first ATi video device in over 9 years, mainly because I agree with you, that ATi drivers are for ... But, since AMD took over, they have gotten much better and I have yet to find issue with the stock drivers supplied (and I am sure you will find all the ing and moaning is from people that just can't handle NOT running the latest driver release, not from people having problems with the pre-installed drivers running thier favorite games)...

Asus does a hell of a job on the hardware side of things (even tho, myself, I had to open the machine up and push the network cable ends on tighter so the ethernet port would work), and quite honestly, the machine isn't even 6 months old yet, so it is allowed to mature a bit...

Quite frankly I only have nVidia cards in my desktops, but I think for a laptop you need to go with the cooler and less power-hungry solution that will get you the best performance, which is ATi... nVidia's history of performance portable GPUs has left a lot to be desired in the power-efficiency, the temperatures and the performance you get for the price of both of those areas. For a desktop, I will take nVidias top-end cards that just slaughter ATi time after time. Kinda funny how people are comparing 5970 solutions to GTX480 single cards... I mean c'mon, compare a SLI GTX480 pair to a Crossfire 5870 pair... the GTX480s will kill the 5870s. Sure, they will generate heat and noise doing it, but who cares, it is a desktop... Give e the silence and coolness of the G73 with the 5870 and the best thermal solution to date... No hot-nuts here...

 

Babyhemi did a furmark run on his 8850 with 480M, and after 10min the 480M only reached 72C, not what I would call very hot.

460M would probably be same or even cooler than 5870MR. 20%-30% less TDP = 70W TDP, which is 5870MR level. Nevertheless, I would just get the 5870MR now, 460M is not going to outperform 5870MR anyways, unless you really need the Cuda and physX.

 

Stop being silly, and stop trolling. The chance of you having a problem with the G73 is extremely slim. I have recently bought one, and it works absolutely fine. The heat problems mentioned are extremely rare, probably a 1 in 2000 chance of it happening. Other issues are rare as well.

If you really think it's a painful wait when you have a Gateway FX with a 9800M GTS, and a desktop with an i7 D0 and GTX 295, then I feel very sorry for you. You obviously take $5000 for granted, something which I am disgusted to see from anyone.

 

Anyone notice most if not all of shin777 post/thread is all trolling and beating on the same subject. Don't reply, I would like to see the thread die down.

 

He obviously isnt even listening to us, so theres really no point in giving him any more advice. Let him do what he wants.

 

mine does, cause it's ho outside

 

why would u get disgusted? i am not some spoiled brat who gets all his stuff from parents. i have a job and everything i have, i bought it with my own money. anyway~~~ yeah, i think i will wait. i was going to wait an year or two until blu-ray burner becomes like basic option like dvd-burner does these days but it's just that i saw g73jh-x5 at local store yesterday and i thought it was really good deal. almost bought it out of temptation.

call me crazy~ i will get better value one after i see actual benchmark/temperature/performance/gaming comparison tests in official reviews, rather than hearing it from ppls who just got their new laptop and doesn't want it to get surpassed~ 460m may not be as powerful as 5870 but who knows whatelse will come out in next few months? 5870 is like 6 months old gpu afterall. i wouldn't be surprised if they come out with smaller dime or perhaps better version in time. like i said, i am not nvidia fan boy. it really doesn't matter it's nvidia or ati cuz i will get better one in the end anyway.

 

Then use stock asus drivers - they're plenty stable.

 

And then a couple months will pass and a new gpu will come out and you will no longer have the best..thats the way it works with electronics.

 

@ Shin777

Honestly..dude..nobody cares if you want to wait 2 months or 2 years. This forum is full of people who know what exactly they want, when they want it and how to be HAPPY with what they buy. Been reading this thread and you honestly seem to be an arrogant person. Please refrain from making yourself look like a total fool in front of people who only want to help out others who need it the most. No one has time for a poodle in here. You have the money..good..you have the time and patience to see if something better comes along..Good..But why are you advocating something that no one is even bothered about atm. Like every one said, a better product will roll out just when you make your purchase. Intel i7-840qm came out just when i had placed my order for an i7-820qm and got shipped.. But You don't see me whining about it or dissing anyone/anything about it in here, do you? Coz like everybody in here, i know what i want it for and i will be happy with it if it does just that. Nothing more, Nothing less..

So advice to you my friend.. Wind your head in and be a part of this community and stop digging where you stand.. Will only land you in a bigger hole than you already are in..

 

Well said

Btw; I see you know what you want and need - you ordered the exact same configuration as i did.
(just without blu-ray and probably without a custom vBios)

 

Thank you. I just thoght someone should put the facts out there.
Yeah, I do have the same specs as you .. I came across your thread when i placed my order and was happy someone else ordered the 820qm as well. I know most will just stick it out with the 720qm and say there wont be much gain from an 820, but in my books it is worth the upgrade. 920qm does not offer as much for the huge price difference from 820.. Anyways i guess, it was just personal choice at the end.
I only updated the bios to 209. I wish i had someway to flash the vbios aswell. But they dint have any modded one available when i ordered. Blu-ray isn't much important as i dont own any hehe.. Maybe will upgrade after sometime.

 

I can send you my modded vBios if you want (was tested thoroughly).
Has overdrive enabled to enable easy overclocking and prevent GSODs and lowered powerplay clocks and voltages on battery for longer autonomy and lower temperatures and the changes were done in one edit in RBE to prevent any instability of the vBios.
Just send me a pm if you want it.

 

oh, if u don't care, don't mind me what i said or what i do.
why bother coming here and try to lecture me?
i was merely posting my thought and u come here and
say i am being arrogant, being foolish whatever-
i know, just like u don't give a crap about what i think,
i don't give a crap about what u think. so just move alone.

 

You do realize, that you just proved me right. don't you??

I have no plans to fuel your trolling adventures here on. So I humbly withdraw myself, O internet-warrior..

 

almslap:

 

LMAO!!

I'm just wondering where he came up with the idea that the 5870 goes up to 100c. Mine never went passed 75c and mine is overclocked.

Whatever........

 

If you checked the gpu temp thread there are a few people who have that problem.

 

unluckily for them but its not suppose to be that high.