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    driver removals really necessary?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by FruitSaladExtreme, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. FruitSaladExtreme

    FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant

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    My g73 refuses to install any drivers from scratch except from the stock drivers provided on the CD. This does not mean it cannot use any drivers, but rather it MUST install stock drivers.

    It's also impossible to uninstall my previous drivers then install new drivers. ATI download manger doesn't recognize the hardware and skips all the steps.

    I've been a nvidia guy up to now, this has never happened to me over there.
     
  2. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    :eek2: now that is a new one on me. I'm thinking that you are due for a fresh install of OS.
     
  3. mindinversion

    mindinversion Notebook Evangelist

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    I actually had something similar happen to me yesterday on my desktop. SOMEHOW [totally different story] I managed to corrupt my display drivers. I had to uninstall [with delete] 3 sets of drivers and remove CCC with the installer tool. The first attempt to install 10.6 it installed Catalyst, but not the drivers. Tried it a second time, and it STILL appeared as if the drivers hadn't installed. Restarted the computer and it had, in fact, restarted them.

    If that doesn't help, I second Chastity's Full format suggestion. To my knowledge there is no way for hardware to forbid you from installing any non OEM software for your device.

    Other possible suggestions:

    Downloaded desktop drivers for mobile card?
    downloaded x86 instead of X64 drivers?

    [I'm sure you've already verified those last ones, but I always try to cover as many bases as I can think of JUST in case. . .it's happened to me before :) ]
     
  4. FruitSaladExtreme

    FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant

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    If I keep all my games and media on separate partitions, couldn't I just format C (where windows files are held).
     
  5. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    Yes, but you'll lose all the OS links (shortcuts, configuration, registry entries, etc.) to the software installed on the other drive.
     
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    Yes, but you'll lose all the OS links (shortcuts, configuration, registry entries, etc.) to the software installed on the other drive.

    Is this problem with ANY drivers or just ATI?


    *edit* Holy cow, just edited a post and got a duplicate LOL Sorry ;)
     
  7. FruitSaladExtreme

    FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant

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    Just ATI. I don't mind losing my links.
     
  8. FruitSaladExtreme

    FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant

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    Formatted again, attempted to install 10.4 drivers. Problem persists.

    ATI download manager is installed but nothing else.
     
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    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    Hmm if the PnP device ID isn't being recognized then the stock ATI drivers from Asus shouldn't work either....have you tried the original stock driver?


    If the stock driver installs, then check your 10.4 install and make sure it's a mobility version. You can check in the installer package -

    default location should be something like C:\ATI\Support\10-4_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF

    Open the .INF files found there in a text editor. You should find an entry that looks something like

    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series" = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0

    The key part to search for is the "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0" part. If you don't find that string, the driver installer probably won't recognize the G73's Mobility 5870.
     
  10. FruitSaladExtreme

    FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant

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    Still doesn't work.

    "detecting hardware..." then immediately shoots up to 100%.

    the 10.7 hotfix seemed to work though, perhaps I can only work with the raw installation files rather than this recently caught-on gimmick of "installation managers".
     
  11. <MarkS>

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    What do you mean "still"? I didn't say change anything...did you change something? :)

    I'm a little skeptical about the quality of the failing install package you're trying though...are you sure it's mobility radeon HD 5800 compatible?

    I'm curious....why 10.4 and not 10.6 or 10.7?
     
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    What about the stock drivers?

    When you're on standard VGA driver (no catalyst driver installed), does devicemanger show the plug-n-play ID for the display adapter (Details tab, Hardware Ids)? The hardware ID should be PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0&SUBSYS_1C021043 for the Asus 5870, but even an id of PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A0 should be picked up by the ATI driver installer.