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    overclocking the g60vx. safe?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by tjnguyen, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. tjnguyen

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    Hello i want to know if overclocking the g60vx is safe for those who done it? I bought the one with the P7450 processor. Just bought starcraft 2 to try out the game on my new laptop. I run the game at high settings, post processing off (dept of field) shader medium, shadows medium (cant go to low for some reason) and at 1280x720 resolution. The game runs some what smooth but i notice the fps lag. it runs that at about 15-25 fps, average about 20ish. I was hoping this laptop would run it on ultra, but since its at high/medium and runs at 20ish fps. My desktop runs it at ultra @ 40ish fps. My desktop specs are
    2.67ghz e6750 processor,
    2gb ddr2 800mhz ram
    8800 GTS 320mb card.
    edit: i play sc2 on my desktop at 1080p resolution also.

    My laptop idle temperature:
    CPU as of right now with a cooling pad/usb case fan near the vent
    core1: 40c core2: 37c (sometimes core1 go as low as 33c and core 2 goes down to 30)

    CPU when using mozilla and multitasking
    core1: 45c core2: 42c

    CPU when playing sc2
    core1: 51c core2: 49c (both core ranges from 50-60c when playing)

    GPU idling: 64-67c (is that a bit high?)
    GPU playing sc2: 70-80c (temperature from everest)

    so what would be a safe temperature for the CPU's and the 260m gpu?

    also i know i should of bought a laptop with a better processor but im on a tight budget, for 55 bucks more i could of gotten a g72 but that laptop is kind of bigger but its a done deal now. But i was thinking of upgrading the g60vx's processor in the future, what processor are acceptable for this modle?

    and a last thing is should i change the thermal paste to something better to help with the cooling if i do oc it? plan on following the g51 optimization guide
     
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    Idle temperature is pretty high. Looks like a powermizer issue where you GPU continues to rnu at full game clocks even when you're surfing. Look into Powermizer switch and monitor clocks with GPU-Z.

    Your load temperatures aren't bad, either. Go ahead and overclock a bit. Make sure to monitor temperatures, though, with both something like Everest and an on-screen monitor like EVGA Precision.

    CPUs seem fine. For upgrades, just about any Penryn will fit, and the best of the best you can get would be a T9900 or X9100. A good trade between power consumption, heat, and performance would be a P9700, though.
     
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    okay right now im surfing the web and streaming some video's online. My gpu temp is 76c, way too high IMO, what could be the issue here? Is there a guide for powermizer? The clocks on my gpu right now is
    GPU Core clock: 500mhz
    Mem clock: 799.2
    Shader: 1250mhz

    now the temp is 80c why is it still going up (read from both everest and gpu-z)

    should i just oc the CPU since the core temp is fine, i dont think i should stress out the card anymore than it is. Also what is a safe speed to go to? I just tested a steam game alien swarm (its free now by the way). Played everything high at 720p resolution and its very laggy its really bugging me out, i don't think it's suppose to be laggy. Graphics on high/medium with no aa and bilinear
     
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    Google Powermizer Switch and DL/install it. Nine times out of ten high idling temperatures are because of a Powermizer goof.

    As of this moment my GPU is idling at 45C. Granted, I'm just surfing and not watching videos. Also on a Zalman NC2000 cooling pad

    However, for the most part you shouldn't be going to full clocks for video. I'll hit 3D clocks for simple videos, and Throttle clocks for HD. Only games trigger my 580/1450/870 clocks.

    As for Alien Swarm, it's a source game, so it's a little heavier on the CPU than others. The P7450 should be just fine, though, moreso with a little overclocking. Don't know. What GPU drivers are you using?
     
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    okay i just overclocked my CPU with setfsb. Before it was at 2.13ghz 1066mhz core speed now its at 1306 mhz, runnin at clock speed of 2.6ghz same as my desktop. The idling temp when i oc was about the same, 40ish. I tested out starcraft 2 again, runs much smoother now at 30-40fps. Under load with sc2, the cpu temp max is 60c but stays in range of 50ish when playing the game. my gpu right now (playing sc2) is 66c minimzied not playing the game, but when i was playing the game, the max it got was 78c. been playin for about 20 or so minutes.

    the GPU driver im using is the latest one from nvidia, i just went to their website and dled the 260m latest driver. i know the card is underclocked, but i plan on clockin it to its original clock speed 550/1375/950. But i think i will do that after i reapply some arctic silver thermal paste. But im not sure should i try to clock it to original specs or wait till the new thermal paste?

    edit: just played 30 minutes of sc2, and i just checked my temp again. CPU max stayed the same underload, GPU max now is 84c is 84c high?
     
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    84C is pretty good. Once I start going over 90C is when I start getting fidgety. Thankfully no game has done that yet.

    How's your GPU idling?
     
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    right now havent played any games for about 2 hours, its idling at 60-62c.
     
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    And you tried Powermizer Switch? What are your clocks while idling?
     
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    okay i tried the powermizer switch, i pressed on, rebooted just now, idling at 59c.
    Clocks are: 500/1250/800 which is factory default, its underclocked from the original 260m clocks.
    but once i turned on the powermizer, the clock is as followed, 200/400/120

    safe to bump it up to original clocks of 550/1375/950? still 59c. also do i keep the powermizer on all the time or just hit on then exit the program?

    also my cpu idling is core 1: 40, core 2: 37c. its at 1306mhz fsb, 2.6ghz, is it safe to bump it up a tad bit higher, say 2.8 or 3.0?

    edit: just checked my gpu temp idling agian, its down to a whole 50c! but its fluctuates 50-55 but i guess its a big improvement from a whole big womping 60-70c. so safe to clock it to normal?
     
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    Well, idle is different from load. However, it looks like your load wasn't bad to begin with, anyway. Overclock away, but carefully.
     
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    should i follow tevash's guide for over clocking the gpu? Getting dox drivers and using n-tools? i heard dox drivers are better for gaming performance but it will increase teh GPU temperature. Can i just use the official nvidia driver and still overclock the gpu back to what it SHOULD be?
     
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    Yup. I'm using 197.45 right now, and they've been great. Use those drivers and nVidia System Tools to overclock away.

    I highly recommend having an on-screen display for temperatures, though. That way you can see what's you sweetspot for performance/heat. EVGA Precision is an app I've been using for a long time.
     
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    I dont know what to think about the gpu stock temps because there are 2 tpyes of 260m mxm boards. the type 2.1 board and the type 3 boards. We are using type 2.1 clocks at 500/1250/800 and type 3 are the correct powered ones 550/1350/950.
    Im just saying incase some people maybe unaware. so technically speaking the 2.1 boards are not downclocked. I do think the 2.1 boards are smaller than type 3. Thus the lower clocks for heat reason. thats why the larger notebooks with 260m have the type 3 boards cos they would have better cooling.
    I am only aware of this since reading up on notebook check because i just bought the g51vx and wondered why the scores was disgustingly much lower than other notebooks dispite the i cores in them. But evidently the clocks next to the scored suggest they were using the other type of board which disappoints me because the alienware can push around 20fps more. (In asus terms around 12-15fps more than what we got now)

    boo hoo lol im quite gutted about this.
     
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    I'm able to overclock to 600 on the core quite comfortably, so I guess I'm a lucky one.
     
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    yeah ive overclocked my gpu to the standard clocks and ive reached a maximum temperature of 86c on my card playing like 2 hours of starcraft 2 straight. It has never reached over 90c yet, im not too worried of it going over 90c because im replacing the thermal compound on both the cpu and gpu pretty soon. Plus im not doing any heavy gaming like crysis or anything.

    also does anyone know why my CPU down clocks every time i restart my computer? I set the fsb speed to about 1333mhz which is about 2.6ghz. then once i restart my computer it goes down to stock speed i think, 1064 and the core speed goes down to 798 mhz. So does that mean i have to OC my cpu everytime i start up my comp? Is there a way to keep it overclocked?

    edit: okay i havent noticed that it went back to stock after the restart so i tried to OCing to 2.7ghz but after like 10 minutes of use, my laptop just completely freezes. happened twice so far, what does that mean? Also i noticed that the frequency in Core temp is fluctuating from like 750-900mhz (133.00 x 6.5 to 266.01 x 5 and ect)

    also to make sure im doing this right, the G51 has the same mobo as the G60 right? ICS9LPR604AGLF?