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    rorage's repaste experience (finally)

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by rorage, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok so finally I have replaced the thermal past eon my GPU with IC diamond.
    For those who don't remember my notoriously high temperatures, they went up to 90 on IDLE!

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    Now they are ~64 degrees Celcius, (the highest is 64 at IDLE, and it's memIO)

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    EDIT:
    furmark does not work since I updated drivers, uninstalled and reinstalled ATI drivers, and both furmark and still does not work but I don't care.
    Tried the FEAR build it performance test on maximum and on the log the max temp was :
    64.0 72.5 67.0
    I expect it to go up to 90 on some games , but I am certain it won't shutdown under 2 minutes of plying :p

    A few notes:
    The disassembly is pretty straightforward, my laptop works correctly after repasting it even If I did this stuff for the first time on a laptop (a hell lot easier on a Desktop PC)
    the hardest cable to remove and reattach is the speaker cable, I broke the metal piece on the motherboard and I was thinking that the speakers weren't going to work, I attached them so the 3 little wires make contact with the motherboard and put tape to apply pressure, and guess what? the speakers work!
    edit2:
    the screws on the heatsink where pretty hard to unscrew in my case, especially since applying any pressure bend the motherboard, I don't have any tips on that, I had to use a (IDK the name in english it can be used to remove nails from the walls, or gold things, like scissors but not for cutting) to turn the screw around , could have been a bad screw in my case or bad screwdriver who knows.
    Also at the end I got inpatient and forgot to screw some screws (the 3 on the motherboard) and had to reopen the laptop <.<
    GL and apply paste as well :p
    edit3: Apparently my speakers work but my headphones don't :(
    not sure which cable is for the headphones inside the LAptop, trying to fix :|
    edit again:
    Only my right speaker works, but I am not surprised considering the amount of punishment that cable got, I am surprised of such a bad design by asus, such a bad cable and connector.
    edit (final) I reopened it and reconnected the headphones channel, everything is working fine now :p
    speaker seems to make sound out of only one channel, but strangely when testing it with the audio manager it says both right and left channel unlike before
    edit : writing from my ps3 no keyboard ill just copy my last page post
    unfortunately my asus has been send for RMA :( still awaiting ... after repasting I gamed for a while shuted it of showered , played some more , got hungry and put it to sleep (could the downclocking have caused any harm ) after that couldnt wake up did a hard reset doesnt boot , keyboard lights , it responded to caps button / num lock but nothing showed on the screen , no hdd activity :( had to rma it , still don't understand what caused it...

    FINAL EDIT? I got my unit back from RMA, they did a pretty good job (in France BTW), replaced motherboard and GPU, the thermal paste was done properly as well, I sit at about 59, 65, 56 (Celcius)
    probably about 25 ambient (just a guess)
    During gaming I got as for now Max 77 88 78 Celcius
    Unless the temperatures degrade in the near future, I don't plan on changing the thermal paste :p

    Yet another edit:
    Part deux, After the RMA my CPU started overheating this time, going as far as 93 degress
    my GPU eventually got as far as 98
    I've redone both the GPU and CPU.
    The GPU seems to be a success idling as 60 degrees, playted L4D 2 got max 85 (memIO)
    as for the CPU I am not sure, it seems to idle pretty high (at ~70) but It doesn't seem to go higher than 85, so I can say it was a success as well (partial), maybe I didn't correctly paste it, or I let some air when putting the heatskink
    BTW if you are very careful you can repaste the CPU without breaking the seal, or not breaking it completely/making it unnoticeable
    after the repaste, I didn't connect well the touchpad, and didn't get leds lights (put the cable upside down, all fixed)
    I do have some slight problems, first the caps lock works, but the light is always on, and second pressing the first upper left button (to control the lights) activates or deactivates at random at times turbo mode, while turbo mode button does not work.
     
  2. mokylim

    mokylim Notebook Evangelist

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    glad to hear your repaste worked!! i myself am in the line of repasting in a couple of days. did u try to run some benchmarks or run some games and checked what your max temp is?
     
  3. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    I will play a few games and log the temperature, will update you tomorrow!
     
  4. Cloudfire

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    How long did it take you to do the whole thing?
     
  5. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    about 3 hours, considering that I once forgot to screw some screws and had to reopen it, you could do it I'd say 2.5 hours for the first time ( a guess)
     
  6. vaksdal.d

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    I have also just repasted my GPU and CPU and my temps in Furmark went from 107˚C in about 2 minutes to a max of 87˚C after 20 minutes after repaste with IC Diamond. This was my first time doing this to a laptop and I also broke off the speaker connection on the motherboard and also forgot a few screws that I still have to put back in. For anyone that is thinking about doing it be very very careful of the speaker connection. It took me less than 2 hours to complete minus 2 screws that I still have to put back in.
     
  7. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    I punished the speaker cable quite enough, I ripped of a pin on the motherboard, I still manage to connect it somehow and it still works, sound comes only through one speaker but hey :)
     
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    I would like to thank you guys for the free advertisement for my repasting service. :D
     
  9. sean473

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    lol ur repaste is crappy.. i don't go past 80C when gentech repasted mine... thats in all games. :D
     
  10. Chastity

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    Wow, aren't you all harsh and uppity?! Have a heart, he has mono audio.
     
  11. thescinema

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    i lol'ed at 'uppity'
     
  12. shinytrucs

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    I'm partway through a repaste mission as I'm typing this. I've removed the keyboard and all cables underneath, and now I need to pull off the plastic cover. In the BTOTech video it looks really easy to do this, but mine is being really stubborn - it won't lift up near the speakers. I've pulled pretty hard and it hasn't lifted. Any ideas what could be stopping it?
     
  13. mokylim

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    did u remove the 4 screws attached in the middle?
     
  14. flatsix911

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    Which is better for repasting? IC Diamond 7 or Coolaboratory liquid pro?
     
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    shinytrucs Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, I worked out that I hadn't removed one of the ten screws on the base of the laptop.

    Now the gpu heatsink's giving me pain. I've loosened the four bolts but it's on like glue!
     
  16. mokylim

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    it is kinda hard to pull off.. just grab on the screws and pull. be careful not to bend the MOBO though.goo dluck
     
  17. shinytrucs

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    Thanks for the advice about the heatsink mokylim, it does require a good pull and it's hard to find a place on the graphics card to grip.

    I'm back in action after the repaste. So far nothing at all seems broken which is great.

    Whereas BC2 was going into thermal shutdown (around 110 C) within 20 minutes previously, I just played for 45 minutes and it was 81 C when I quit.

    After I quit BC2, it cooled gradually to 51-55-52 - so I'd say these are my true idle temps. Before repaste the middle sensor was idling at 80 C.

    Needless to say I'm very happy!

    Edit: I cleaned with isopropyl 99.7% then applied a 5mm ball of IC Diamond 7.
     
  18. Chastity

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    Congrats on your paste job. You seem to have done a rather solid job of it. :D

    Feel free to use my Team Repaste Logo!
     
  19. mokylim

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    glad to be of a lil help. just giving back what this great community has given me as well! it is a great feeling to see your lappy work right.. let the noob pwning begin
     
  20. flatsix911

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    Any ideas? I heard those are the 2 best TIMs available
     
  21. Chastity

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    IC Diamond is a girl's best friend. :)
     
  22. mokylim

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    and a mans nightmare... *cha* *ching*
     
  23. Khaldum

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    I used IC Diamond as well, and my Idle went down from 68c to 56c and Max temp went from 108c to 88c
     
  24. rorage

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    unfortunately my asus has been send for RMA :( still awaiting ... after repasting I gamed for a while shuted it of showered , played some more , got hungry and put it to sleep (could the downclocking have caused any harm ) after that couldnt wake up did a hard reset doesnt boot , keyboard lights , it responded to caps button / num lock but nothing showed on the screen , no hdd activity :( had to rma it , still don't understand what caused it...
     
  25. austinlvfr

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    Mine does the same thing. I think it is connectivity issue within the motherboard. Sometimes it boots and sometimes it doesn't. Since the BIOS won't even post (sound like your don't either), I think they will have to replace the whole motherboard. That is certainly easier and faster than trying to diagnose the actual problem. Hopefully neither of ours take long. I'm going to repaste with ICD7 when I get mine back too.
     
  26. rorage

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    at the beginning I thought it was eventually going to boot but it didn't :( 10 days since i gave it to the shop. btw are you from france ?? noticed the fr in your name
     
  27. austinlvfr

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    Nope I am here in the United States, but I did live in France for a year in college (J'etais une etudiant a Pau). For those of you who do speak French sorry if royally misspelled that, it's been 11 years.
     
  28. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok got my lapto back, keyboard backlight does not work, but everything else seems ok :p
     
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    not bad. une -> un. That's all. Pau is a nice place. Good food. Beaches are close, skiing is close, Spain road trips... and 11 years ago a good basketball team!
     
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    I know you eventually figured it out, but just curious: does anyone out there use a hair dryer to heat the GPU (or cpu) and have the paste be less like glue?
     
  31. sicmofo

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    will you guys bet your grandmother saying ICD7 is the best thermal compound available? its strange but theres a consensus outside these forums saying AS5 or mx-3 is the absolute best :p just wanna know your thoughts on this
     
  32. -keph-

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    just repasted it at last its right...I finished 1.5ml of thermal paste just to get it right... (opened it 3 times last night)

    here u go.. :D
    [​IMG]

    cpu max-ed out at 61c and the gpu max-ed to 69c but not stable it goes up and down 65c-69c..

    AND BWT I DIDN'T USE ICD7 OR AS5 OR MX-3..IVE TRIED USING ICD7 BUT TUNIQ TX-4 IS THE BEST OUT THERE BELIEVE ME..!!!
     
  33. -keph-

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    no! try Tuniq TX-4 THEN ILL BET..HEHEHHE :D :D
     
  34. three4seven

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    If your temps aren't stable - it's because you're running something in the background that's taking some of the resources.

    To the other poster, MX-3 is great. AS5 is first generation thermal paste - good, but not great. Never tried the Tunic. I personally use shin etsu - but I hate it because the consistency is like peanut butter - very, very difficult to apply.
     
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    Anybody after repast feel that they keyboard is wonky? I dont like the idea of that strong double sided tape and how the underside of the keyboard gets all bent out of shape when you take it apart.

    Im not planning to repast my temps are ok and I never had any shutdown problems its just a question. There was a time when I wanted to upgrade my cpu, and if I ever find a really good deal on an extreme cpu I may still do so since all the video encoding I do would benefit greatly from a nice high overclock via the bios that is unlocked with extreme cpu's.
     
  36. gstboy

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    You must be using a laptop cooler or something to get your temps that low.
     
  37. three4seven

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    No, if you're careful and pull it firm close to the tape - you will not have a problem at all. The guy in the tutorial video was yanking at it all over the place, hence how badly it was bent out of shape.

    That said, it WILL get pulled a little as the double sided tape is unusually strong, but just be careful, go slow and it should be fine.
     
  38. -keph-

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    yep im running apps behind it but never minimized the furmark window...temps go up and down when the speed of the fan goes up or down
     
  39. -keph-

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    yep NZXT CYRO LX cooling pad...thats all and the TUNIQ TX-4 Thermal Paste..
     
  40. rorage

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    if you try to do a little twist movement/don't pull kinda drag a little , it's not that hard to remove it :p
     
  41. ziddy123

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    Not again.... Keph you already did this before and convinced no one that Tunix was better than ICD7 or OCZ Freeze etc. If you like it fine, congratz on your repaste. But I am still unconvinced as I am sure many others are also. Your results are completely unverified, even searching the net for an hour, I couldn't find a shred of creditable evidence to back up your claims. Whereas ICD7, OCZ Extreme, MX-3 etc all have tons of verified user experiences, benchmarks and reviews. The only review of TX-4 I could find was analyzed by a few other forums and all conclusions, the review results were fake.

    You had even created an entire thread for your unverified claims.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...epaste-tuniq-tx-4-result-better-than-icd.html
     
  42. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    ROFL, an isolated case does not make that paste better, there are a lot of conditions that may affect your temperatures, from ambient temperature and humidity to how smooth is the heatsink and how many transistors are faulty, and not only,
    :p
     
  43. Tim4

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    I can tell you more, just look at his GPU load during furmark run it's only ~61%!!!! That's nonsence, furmark always taxes GPU for 99%. I think it was done on battery.
     
  44. -keph-

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    so u thought all i was doing was fake..??or unconvincing?TRY IT URSELF..ive used ICD7 Before (repasted it 3 times to get the lowest temp) and it didnt performed as well as the Tuniq TX-4..ICD7 is much more popular and well known than tuniq tx-4..but when the time comes u will all SEE that It's WAY BETTER...and btw unverified??? COME ON...I TOOK THE SCREEN SHOT ALREADY..!! STILL UNVERIFIED..???maybe im the only one in this forum who use tuniq tx-4...
     
  45. ziddy123

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    Nope, completely unconvinced. ICD7 and others have thousands upon thousands of results verified, with users having similar results. I can't find a single result after searching, to back up your claim.

    Fact that here on these forums, there are dozens upon dozens of ICD7 users having similar temps around 80C. That's believable.

    Your temps aren't believable either. Even Tuniq claims TX-4 will reduce temps by around 1-2C over their TX-3. And TX-3 is never in the top 3 or top 5 in benchmark results either. So I have no idea what your results are doing because even what Tuniq claims and other benchmarks show, yours is completely different.

    There is no way that TX-4 will reduce my temps by 10C. Thermal paste is just a paste to fill in the gaps between Core and Heatsink. And there is no way you can tell me that TX-4 paste is better than liquid metal, liquidpro which is only about 1-2C better than ICD7.

    So yes, I do not believe your results, even with your screenshot, I am completely skeptical.
     
  46. -keph-

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    well then i cant say anything else im just trying to tell u guys that its really better..i tried both of them already..congrats on the ICD7 with gpu maxed below 80c but ill stick with my tuniq tx-4 with maxed gpu at below 70c...
     
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    This is a link to a review of TX-4 with fake results: http://www.overclockershq.com/cooling/tuniq-tx-4-thermal-compound-review.html#axzz10pH5xw00
    - These results are better than water cooling verified by OverClockers who use water cooling on the same CPU.
    - Far as I know you may be the person who did that fake review also.

    Seems to be legit review, unimpressive: http://umlan.com/reviews/miscellaneous/m22.html
    - His results are 1C better than Noctua NT-H1... NT-H1 is about the same as AS5, maybe 1C better.

    And I'm just saying you already spent 4 pages in a thread you created and convinced no one. And I have yet to find another result to verify your claims. None, zero.
    - I'm beginning to think you are trying to promote Tuniq TX-4.

    TX-4 is just a solution of aluminum and silica compound, nothing special.

    This is from Tuniq, TX-4 being 1C better than TX-3 and ICD7 is better than TX-3 in every single result. But you are trying to tell me TX-4 magically reduced temps by 10C over ICD7? Sorry I won't even attempt to use TX-4 to verify this, as I do not believe it at all. There is a reason why no one knows Tuniq. Barely anyone even used TX-3 when that was getting reviews....

    [​IMG]
     
  48. -keph-

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    then do u think im lying or i did a photo shop..??maybe im one of the few lucky onwer of the g73jh with the best gpu structure/built (or the best from the production site)...all i did was repasted and put in on my CYRO LX cooling pad and then benchmark..thats all.. :D
     
  49. -keph-

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    Then good luck with ur ICD7 and yes im trying to promote (not im a seller or the marketing agent from tuniq) the Tuniq tx-4 cuz im trying to help users to make their gpu and cpu temps lower than normal..thats all..like ive told u just now..maybe im the lucky owner of the G73JH with the best gpu structure..like chastity's...

    and btw i was not the reviewer of that website...im in beijing studying chinese for 1 year what for i have a DESKTOP over here and a G73JH..?come on dont be jealous of my temps..if u are just say it dont deny it..

    AND PLS STOP FINDING THE REVIEW OF TX-4 THEN IF U DONT TRUST IT OR BELIEVE IT..TRY IT (ISNT IT THAT HARD) STOP DISSING MY RESULTS..

    and sorry to the thread starter about all of this..cheers..
     
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    I'm not going to assume what you did. But yes I do not think your results are real. There is nothing, absolutely nothing out there that would even suggest TX-4 would drop 10C over ICD7 when it seems more likely ICD7 is better than TX-4, the exact opposite.

    Sorry, don't know what your intentions are, but I'm not buying it, and I do not think anyone should make their purchase decision on their TIM based on what you've posted.
     
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