ASUS ROG Zephyrus GX501 Owner's Lounge

Never repasted before not taking any chances.

 

Is it stable for normal use at that?
I was working my way up to it

 

ye mine is stable at -135

 

Need to learn, its fun!

 

You could call up both Microcenters, local and school, and have them hold a unit to swap before your 15 day's are up, or is it 14 days now, it used to be 30 days.

Otherwise they are gonna make you give it to them for weeks to fix...RMA, don't cha know.

 

-100 MV 962 marks 93C
-120mv 957 marks 89C
-130mv 964 marks 88C
-140mv 965 marks 88C
-150mv 961 marks 86C

 

Whadaya been waiting for??

-140mV sounds about right...

 

Not stable at -135 crash reboot during metro last light redux

 

Does it let you uncouple Core offset and Cache offset, if so put Cache at default, only undervolt the cores.

Otherwise start dropping by +5 mV until stable, reboot between each change.

 

How do I uncouple it?

 

There would be entry / change points, as named CPU Core offset and CPU cache offset, since you didn't just jump at knowing this, I assume it's not so... sooooo... here's what it looks like when you can set the differently +95.7mV Core and +1.95mV Cache, with Cache speed bump from 34x to 37x, with cores at 42x:

 

-120mv I seem to be stable

 

With -120 CPU max 97c and avg 78c
Running metro last light redux

 

Reboot? Why?

 

Stability testing is best with a power cycle. Changes can introduce instability, and rebooting - starting from power off - is best. You can be chased by the ghosts of instability into false settings otherwise.

 

Definitely seem stable at - 120mv. Should I only under clock when gaming or leave it under clocked 24\7?

 

All the time.

You've found the voltage for the CPU that it was supposed to ship with, if companies took the time to customize their laptops for optimal performance before shipping.

Now, it may need additional settling time to crash again, and it might indeed do that even if it's stable at 100% load and long gaming sessions, because the last stability check is idle time stability.

The CPU will eventually downclock to the absolute minimum, and at that point the voltage offset might take it down completely - like crashed.

So -120mV is good now, maybe -115mV later if it crashes at idle.

Are you sure -125mV won't work?

 

Added the ram and 960 pro myself and system not seeing drive

 

Not even diskpart in the recovery is finding it

 

Did you download and install the Samsung NVME driver + Samsung Magician software for cloning?
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960pro.html

Click on Download files tab, download the instructions too

 

Moved the tape holding the drive in place stretched it some and moved it forwards and now its reading it :O

 

Tape? Isn't there a screw down point to hold it solidly in place? That connector pinches and pushed out the board, you need something to push back and hold it in place, tape will slide over time.

 

Tape keeps the drive spaced properly in the socket then there's also a screw. Its the stetchy foamy tape

 

Photo?

 

I added Ram and also a 960 pro and the system had no issue seeing it. I have no idea what you are talking about with tape? There is thermal pad under the original stick, if it comes out place it back before placing the new stick in the system and then just screw it back down.

Maybe the thermal pad is what you are calling tape?

 

Thats what I thought as well, but I asked for a photo to be sure. I've also seen yellow translucent tape holding down M.2 drives, but it's not stretchy it's brittle - or will be over time.

I'm a bit concerned he may have damaged the thermal pad, those are fragile, so I hope he didn't stretch it much. It shouldn't be in the way of proper seating unless it's out of place.

Also, no matter how out of place the tape is, once you press the M.2 drive home into the socket, which you need to do to fit the screw in the end to fasten it down, there's no way it should have caused the drive to not show up - once the screw is in there's no where for the M.2 drive to go except deep in the socket.

 

Two questions.

Anyone compare this to the aw 15r3 with the 1080 maxq?

Those that have had this system any concerns with the flimsy lift ramp on the bottom? Any quality control concerns?

 

I was lucky my thermal pad stayed stuck to the chassis so no need to touch it. And yes if the screw was able to go in the drive should have been seated already if he had it in the socket? But I had to use a light and look close at the socket as there was room under it for the gold leads to slide under the socket which is what he probably did the first time?

 

I don't know anyone who would want to buy at AW15 with Maxq when the 1070 is just as good and cheaper. Now if AW had made a new slimmer design for Maxq then it would be a seller, but they dropped the ball on this one.

 

Yup, easy to do, and that sounds about right

 

It was sort of an FU from AW to Nvidia for making them buy Max-Q chips. They didn't want to change anything. If you watched the promo Vid that was pulled, you could tell they were salty

 

With 1tb 960 pro

 

There actually aren't any "Max-Q chips", they are full 1080's wired to be limited in performance to fit the application - which is the "Max-Q Design", where all the limits are proscribed to the vendor.

And, that's what ticked off Alienware, Nvidia telling them what to do with a 1080 to get less performance and try to force Alienware to build a laptop they didn't believe in.

The same thing that ticks off anyone with any performance laptop experience, being told to detune - tune for performance in the wrong direction, just to smoosh everything into a tinier case.

Here's the video again, so good, and fun to watch again and again.

The first time I saw it it was so unexpected that I thought someone had hacked their Youtube channel and posted a satire video

 

Would have been better if they where able to unlock it a bit and provide more performance. Given the issues with this Gen's Tripod heatsink it probably could not handle the heat...

 

The Alienware laptop GPU cooling is great, and it could probably stretch to a stock 1080 range performance, just.

What it definitely could cool was an overclocked 1070 with 15w higher TDP, and match or beat the Max-Q 1080 performance specified by Nvidia.

That's Alienware's burn on Nvidia, we did the same thing with a 1070 instead of wasting a perfectly good 1080.

 

Geez, what excuse this time? Photo with no screen shot, ya gotta learn how to do a screen shot.

Do you see anyone else posting photo's instead of screen grabs? Anyone?

Please, it's so damn easy, just run snipping tool, select the area to grab, and save it to disk. Then include the image in your post, with descriptive text - they don't allow just images or just photo's here.

Or, if you wanna roll old school, PrtScn and paste into mspaint (or whatever MS is using in Windows 10 now), and save it as a jpg.

Why do you insist on posting blurry unreadable photo's??

 

While I am sure Nvidia forced that down their throat (we do the same to our distributors when we are pushing products they don't want / need). Alienware has a heap of issues the iteration and for them to make jabs and laughs they should really fix their issues first...

 

Yeah, well as the old proverb goes:

Two wrongs don't make a right, and Max-Q sucks!!

Yeah, well, AW has production control issues apparently. They know how it's supposed to be made, QA'd, and tested, but they can't get their production partners to follow through with a high enough percentage of consistency.

Maybe that'll change when AW moves manufacturing back to the USA in 2018.

 

They better hurry up. Are they really moving production back here. I don't mind paying more for a quality product by any means. I am very bitter towards them right now after going through 3 17R4 replacements still having the same issues I gave up.

 

My first thought is, how much cash did you blow on a 1TB NVME drive in a tiny laptop that doesn't like heat?

You could have bought that for 1/2 the price and been just as well off with a SATA M.2 drive.

That one photo post of those awesome numbers is the sum total value of all that excess money spent. That's it.

Day to day use won't show any appreciable change - saving a fraction of a second here or there won't make any difference to your use experience.

There is only 1 M.2 slot in there, so you can't even transfer to another M.2 NVME device at full speed.

You are then still limited to SATA transfer rates because you only have a SATA drive to transfer between, or worse USB 3.0.

The only potential saving grace might be to spend a 2nd ton of cash on a Thunderbolt 3 external array that can keep up with a full speed NVME drive.

Nice numbers btw, it's performing at full speed

 

Don't kill his buzz.

To me the 961 that is in there is plenty fast.

 

That's what USB c is for

 

Yea but its only 500gb and i wanted 1tb internal storage

 

IDK, maybe, I wouldn't be privy to such details, and there's been no public announcement, it's just the only solution I can think of to solve their problem with manufacturing, QA, testing, and final product.

Yeah, I keep telling people to not order AW unless you are ready to work on it yourself to get it right, or pay someone with the experience.

There was a short time after the main hubbub of finding the issues and AW finding solutions that good units came out for a while, at least a higher percentage of them - enough to chance getting a good one.

But, recently it's almost a certainty you'll get a hot one.

 

I think the max q chips could just be cherry picked 1080s running at lower voltages.

 

Hot is an understatement. 97C is cooking... 92C after a kryonaut repad and fujipoly repaste is just down right busted.

 

Yeah, Nvidia uses a team of Pink Unicorn's and Purple Llamas to screen for the good one's

 

I didn't say it was slow, I said it was a hot unnecessary waste of cash, he could have had the same user experience with 1/2 the cost and 20c less heat with a SATA M.2

Everyone else can give him the buzz

 

Wait, you dumped a perfectly good 961 512GB ?

Why not just get a 2TB or 4TB 2.5" SSD? You don't need it all to be superfast SSD.

That huge chunk of cash would have gotten you 2TB+ of 2.5" SSD...

 

Ummm USB C and internal speeds are uber fast. Speeds up everything and makes os snappy.