*** ASUS Zephyrus M (GM501) Owner's Lounge ***

Anyone on the fence -- the good Zephyrus M (with 144hz panel and 1060, reg $1899) is on sale for 1349 with sale and coupon from Newegg:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234944

Can get this for 1349 with coupon NENAU4 (-$150)

 

Actually, it seems you can take cache also to -125mV:




Btw, your cpu is still hitting 90°? God... :|

Nice... t's 1060 version though (better to specify).

 

I must have edited right when you were posting. ( ' :

 

I used the undervolt quoted in the comments by B0B himself on his zephyrus m review.

Well the CPU normally max out mid-high 80s when playing witcher 3 modded that it renders higher fidelity textures and fx and drawing distance compared to vanilla (which results in a ~10fps drop). I have also OC the gpu with +200 MHz core and +300 memory, so it avgs around 2000 MHz core while gaming. I consider that to be really good and I expect it to be much better on other games temps wise.

I think I played OW once with competitive settings (all low, 75% render scale) on silent fans and both cpu and gpu were under 80C

Laptop temps depend greatly on the ambient temp with this thin of a chassis.

 

Oh ok, I didn't know that, did he get bsod with -125?

You meant that it reaches 90 for a second or so, and then temp dropped down right after? I hope it's just for cpu changing its clocks, and not because of thermal throttling...

Anyway, I guess you play with framerate uncapped... with a little luck, capping it to 60/80 should help even more with thermals, maybe.

 

The laptop never thermal throttled on me once since I got it.

The modded witcher 3 I was playing was with hairworks on and custom graphics settings which give me around 48 fps avg in novigrad. Vanilla witcher 3 should be around 60fps with hairworks on.

According to B0b those underclock numbers are stable and laptop will bsod if cache values are pushed lower. I never tried it myself tho.

 

I'm having a little doubt now... is the laptop capable of cooling itself (a bit, at least) when the lid is closed, without the AAC system? I was thinking this because, with an exeternal monitor, I wouldn't want to be forced to leave the laptop open, even when (for example) only watching a movie. Also, when gaming, I hope I can turn off the red light coming from the vents

Thanks for the info. What is usually your room temperature when playing, though? Just to give me an idea.

 

Hey guys, just joined the forums and looking to get the GM501 with the 1060 very soon but I have just one question...

Am I right in assuming that this laptop will output 100Hz (G-Sync enabled) on my X34 ultrawide monitor using discrete graphics mode?

Cheers
Murat

 

Ambient temp feels like high 20s so not too cold. I live in Japan so during summer it is hot and humid but the laptop manages without me needing to turn on the ac.

I wouldn't recommend playing games with the laptop closed because there isnt any intake vents at the bottom. The red light at the vents should be able to be turned off via the Aura software, and the boot sound could be turned off in the bios. You cant turn off the red logo light at the back manually tho.

 

I'm considering buying it. Has anyone tested with Cinebench R15 and HWINFO to see if the CPU throttles?

 

Hi i just bought this laptop for gaming but i quickly found out the mouse pad stops working when i type so im unable to aim and move or turn and move in games or type and use the mouse pad and theres a delay before i can use the mouse pad after typing it is rely annoying and i cant find any fixes online or in any settings please help if theres no fix for this im just going to return the laptop . aslo my laptop does not detect my bluetooth razer Leviathan sound bar

 

bought mine from the Microsoft store(1070 version, gm501gs , they gave me a 10% student discount(i dont go to school i dropped out) also got the 2 year accidental plan for like 150$. paid like $2200 out the door. felt like i got a pretty good deal. definitely want to upgrade the hynix memory but dont think ill ever need 32gb. can i put two 8gb stix in? thanks

 

So, the laptop is great and all but does anyone else find that the audio is terrible? Like, it's really quiet and I can't even get any loudness equalization either for whatever reason. What do you guys think?

 

Doesn't the Microsoft Store sell them only with the 1 TB SSHD, without the NVMe SSD? That's why it's so cheap?

 

nope the one i bought has a 256 samsung nvme m.2 ssd and a 1tb seagate hdd

 

i dont have any issues with the sounds, the bass is awesome lol especially when its on your lap lol

 

Interesting, the Canadian Microsoft Store only sold it with the SSHD.

 

I guess they dont feel the canadians need the nvme power

 

QUESTION, does anyone know of any legit skins like dbrand has for the razer blade. anything would be cool just would like to customize the feel and look a little

 

dang this laptop is better overall than any laptop i have tested(msi gs65,razer blade 15) powers through anything! only thing that can use improvement is the battery but hey this is a hot dang gaming laptop! ALSO LOVE THE BASS IN THE SPEAKERS. WHAT A PLUS TO HAVE BASS IN A LAPTOP!!

 

The best I can do with CPU undervolting is 99.6mV on Core and -50.8mV on cache, any more on Core and it crashes on stress tests, any more on cache and I get a BSOD

 

try -49.8 cache and -125.0 core

I think going higher than 50 in the cache is what causes the BSOD

 

This must just be an oversight in the listing? I'm pretty sure there's only 1 model..

 

If you can, try -125mV for both also.
It may seem strange to do so but, apparently, sometimes what causes the bsod could be also the mismatch between Core and Cache offset: it is not a "must" of course (depending on the machine) but usually it should be the same for both.

 

Thank you I will give it a go

 

I will try this evening, I think I may have already but I will let you know how it goes

 

By the way, can I ask you which temps are you getting while gaming on both cpu and gpu, with the current undervolt setting?

 

It worked! Running -125mV Core and -49.8mV cache now

 

In Far Cry 5, about 75C GPU and 80-85C CPU, my system is stock besides the undervolt on CPU. Occasionally CPU spikes to 89C. Room temp is about 22-25C. Also that is running on balanced fan profile

 

After how much time did it reach that temps? Also, was it running with framerate uncapped?

Btw, wow... that temp on gpu, in a so thin chassis, is awesome. The 1070 in my Clevo (as you I am on stock paste... no undervolting on cpu though) easily reaches 80-82° (85-88° on summer), and chassis is ~2.5 cm thicker!

 

Does the M.2 support sata?

I have an extra 1tb 860 evo lying around..

 

Yes, the M.2 slot supports either SATA or PCIe NVMe SSD.

 

Beauty, gunna pull the trigger on this now.

 

That is running frames uncapped. I normally see the GPU in intensive games sit between 75C and 85C, I can't recall ever seeing it get hotter than 85 gaming. The CPU on the other hand can get quite hot at times, no denying that. Most games the CPU doesn't get hotter than 85 apart from spikes. I'm still yet to try Assassin's Creed though, I'm sure that'll test it.
If you put the fans on silenced, it seems to detunes the laptop a bit and runs quite cool, but you do lose a few frames, I'm guessing maybe 20%. Bu it is cool and quiet and still quit powerful, Far Cry 5 runs around 60 FPS

 

has anyone had an issue with the latest windows update? I'm not sure if it was exactly then, but I have lost all sound on my GM501 except for when I plug headphones in. I tried every troubleshooting trick, and have just done a 'reset this pc', but still no sound.

 

If anyone else has these issues, the next day I clicked on windows update check and it downloaded BIOS version 304. After it flashed it, my sound was back.

 

I just worked some thing out. Afer folowing BOB of All trades video on undervolting the 8750H, I had changed the SST to 0 from 128. I was wondering why I was getting such high temperatures the last few weeks. After returning this setting to normal, my laptop runs 10C cooler while gaming! massive difference!

 

Sorry, didn't understand well actually: with which setting did you get -10°, 0 or 128? The latter, right?

Anyway it's very good to know, thanks for the info.

 

When performing the CPU Undervolt, follow Bob of All Trade's video on youtube, just don't change your speed shift settings in throttlestop, leave it at 128 instead of changing it to 0 like the video says. Otherwise your CPU will be in turbo constantly, creating much more heat

 

yes I have noticed this too I just changed it. Do you know what is this setting for, and btw thanks this made a huge difference.

 

Nice, thanks.
I wonder, though, if it's better to disable speedstep when enabling speedshift, as the first is an old os-level version and so no more needed, I guess (?)

 

Speedstep is a legacy feature of older intel CPUs which has been superceded with Speed Shift. There is no effect whether speedstep has been enabled or not.

Changing the Speed shift value in throttlestop changes the "clock management" of the CPU (value range from 0-255, the lower the value the higher the performance).

Having a value of 0 means that the CPU will constantly turbo to 3.9 Ghz, while having the value at 255 means the processor with try to limit itself to 1.1 Ghz most of the time.

Do not forget to change the GPU to "Optimal Power" on nVidia control panel to default to power savings by downclocking while doing non-gaming/non gpu intensive tasks.

You can create different profiles on throttlestop (e.g. AC profile and battery profile) with different speed shift values to prioritize either performance or battery life.

Source

 

I have a problem. On start up the keyboard lights do not turn on.
I have each time to go in rog aura, click on "APPLY" and exit it in order to turn on the light. Any suggestion ?

 

so if you you increase speed shift will it increase battery life or decrease?

 

Hello !

I'm looking to repast my GM501 with LM or Graphite pad (i have both but never used one of them).

I see few ppl using fujipoly pads, could you tell me the size of the pads needed to replace the other pads / thermal paste and if i need something else than lm/graphite pad and fujipoly pads ?
I could open it, but i don't have the "thick" paste used under the heatsink to replace the original one

Thanks !

 

Thanks for this explanation, it all makes sense now. I've changed around my Throttlestop settings to suit, I'll post them up

 

So after lots more playing around with Throttlestop, Assassin's Creed Origins and Rise of the Tomb Raider, I've settled at settings for gaming. Basically I've followed Bob of all Trades video on 8750h undervolting, including the speed shift settings. I have my core set to -125mV and my cache set to -48.8mV. The difference I've made is I've limited all my cores to a multiplier of 31. This has produced no notable difference in frame rates in my games at all, but produces much less heat. Eg in the Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 benchmark, my frame result went from 101 fps to 100 fps.

With the speedshift set to 0 it stays on 3.1 ghz the whole time and doesn't drop at all unlike when the speedshift is set to 128. I've attached some screen shots of my setup.

I've also used afterburner to overclock my graphics card slightly. +200 mhz on core and +300mhz on memory clock. The extra heat is hardly noticable.

Now while gaming my CPU sits on 75-80c constantly and GPU sits on 75C using the balanced fan profile. I am on stock cooling, no one in Australia seems to offer the service HID evolution does over here, wish that wasn't the case! But I'm very happy with my settings now, would still recommend Overboost for Assassin's Creed Origins though haha, that game is hard on the CPU

 

I had a lot of problems with all this stuff when I first got the laptop, after doing a 'fresh start' on windows. I ended up giving up and going back to factory settings and Using Revo uninstaller to remove all the bloatware, and 'mcaffee removal tool' to remove mcaffee antivirus. I haven't had a problem since

 

I thought if you set speed shift to 0 it will always run in turbo setting?