Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 Owner's Lounge

In your link you Redirect to AMD Ryzen 9 4900 drivers. I do have Ryzen 7 4800. I'm not very familiar with this Kind of stuff so I don't want to break something. The date for my current driver is set on 20.03.2020 version 26.20.140... is that the one with the issue?

 

That just don't matter as it is the same APU family.
Do you have black screens? Then it is obviously the driver with the issue. It is the driver from Windows Update, right? ee

 

Yes I do have black screens. Just had one today actually while reading stuff on a blog. I have one question though what do you mean with do not install right away? This part confuses me. Hope this fixes the issue.

 

Don't start the setup.exe , follow the tutorial.

 

Hi, just joined the owner's club.

I was having Black Screen issues, even the wallpaper was going back/dark at times. I followed the uninstall/install process indicated earlier and it fixed it - for now.

I am finding screen to be washed out - e.g. cant even see the cross/close-out sight on Chrome (top-right). I tried adjusting brightness, contrast adjustment and did color calibration but feel its the same.

Any thoughts...suggestions?

 

Let me guess, you are on battery? Disable AMD Varibright. Sadly you have no AMD App left for that. So you have to do all again. Install the AMD package, change the setting, follow the tutorial again.

It was written in the tutorial to do that first.

If you are not on battery i don't know what is the problem.

 

Thanks, it happens when its on batter or on power. I feel screen needs calibration or is defective. Is there a way to adjust the screen on laptop as there are no physical buttons?

 

The screen is hardware calibrated at factory but yes, you can fiddle around in the AMD settings. But you don't have those, because you followed my tutorial.
Reinstall the AMD software package with the setup, do your settings and deinstall the package without cleaning, the settings will stay.
If there are really srange color schemes there might be a defect.
How about a picture?

 

Really weird, it's supposed to be Pantone validated. Better not mess with what's already perfect...

 

See screenshots here, I am posting using my work laptop and noticed that the colors look different (better) here than on G14:
- on first screen, notice that there the cross/close window icon is not even visible.
- on second screen/desktop, the stars in the center look like a waterfall (blended) and distorted, and purplish on G14 but not on my other laptop...not sure how to explain

https://imgur.com/bKPOeqH
https://imgur.com/bb0c04O

 

Subbing to this thread because this is a laptop I can see purchasing in the future.

 

Me too but I can’t stand the White color and can't get over the dim backlit keys on the silver keyboard , waiting for the Gray model.

 

I honestly do like the white one. That keyboard back-lit is un aceptable from a brand that has been making gaming laptops for years, but gues that's not a guarantee for anything these days.

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It's also missing pgup/pgdn/home/end keys so far as I can tell.

 

Yeah, don't know what to think about that, I use those keys quite often. It's like, what the hell ASUS!

 

Hey everyone,
Just posting my review here which includes iGPU performance on battery and my own tweaks.

https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/post/review-2020-asus-g14

Let me know if you have any questions!

 

Fantastic review. Hopefully the guys of ryzen Controller do their magic with the 4000 series. My 3700U equipped Flex 14, by removing boost time and by running it at constant 35W gives a 16% improvement. Just imagine what the 4900H would do.

My use case for this laptop would be my work desktop replacement I carry everyday. I need something powerful with a dedicated GPU to run my ultrawide "4K" display. Since I travel time to time, portable gaming is a must either on battery or plugged in. I would have a BA desktop at home for true gaming.

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There is a ryzen controller discord that you can join.

Right now we have a team working on another utility called ryzen smart tuning as well which you can check out.

https://discord.gg/uBDEKKE

 

Is it going to do more than just adjust TDP values? I'd love to have actual voltage control.

 

Voltage control on Ryzen is pretty much useless, these CPUs function differently to Intels.

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Functions differently how? I have a 3900x and 3700x, both of which benefit from a reduction in voltage with voltage offset... Seems pretty similar to me.

 

We've been working on that for the longest time but it only works on Linux so far. We've yet to successfully port it over to Windows.

 

But what does it do? Everything I've seen for ryzen mobile only changes TDP values.

 

It's called zen states. It allows you to undervolt ryzen mobile chips but it's only on Linux.

Ryzen controller cannot undervolt yet.

 

That is correct, Ryzen 4000 is self optimizing and just takes the voltage it needs. Experiences with Intel undervolting don't apply.

 

I would love to see some actual undervolting. It's a shame AMD won't allow Ryzen Master to work with their mobile CPUs.

While I wish AMD was amazing at controlling voltage, it's just like Intel in this regard. They specify typical operating voltages per core speed that changes based on the quality of the chip, just like Intel. Sure they do a little better job at it, but I have had benefits with manual undervolting on my 1700x, 2700x, 3700x, and 3900x. Needless to say there is headroom.

 

Hey all, I just got my laptop yesterday and spent all day setting it up and playing with it.

So far, none of the issues that have been mentioned in the subreddit for it have happened to me. Hoping that holds true cause I got it from Best Buy and according to the poll, it's much less likely to be defective when you get it from there. I wanted to address one thing some people are very worried about: The keyboard backlighting.

I'm a touch-typist and I type the way they teach in typing classes (do they still have those? Man, I'm old) so I don't really use the keyboard backlighting all that often. That being said, it has three settings of brightness and since I only use the backlight in utter darkness (i.e. late at night) for a few seconds at a time, this was more than adequate for me. Yes, it's uneven, and no, it's not the strongest backlighting out there. But it's more than I need, and besides, I didn't plop more than $1.5k on this machine for the backlighting. Honestly, given how everyone was talking about it, it's much stronger/brighter than I was expecting.

Hope this helps!

Mr. Mysterious

 

Ryzen 4000 Mobile is not comparable to desktop Ryzen 3000 in this regard.

 

Not really. We've done some monitoring with uProf on the 4800H and it still runs at a higher voltage at a given clockrate than undervolted desktop chips.

It may be able to self optimise but they are still conservative voltages for sure. They have to leave some room for error to prevent crashes on crappier cpus.

Tldr: there is undervolting headroom, just not as much as Intel. The most you'll get is 80mv or so

 

Sure you can say that, but you don't have any proof of this. Chances are because they are the same chip, there is still some headroom. Chip makers (AMD and Intel) aren't willing to take the risk to run their CPUs at the bleeding edge and risk instability.

 

You can undervolt them and the boost frequency may even rise a bit but benchmark scores will go down after a minimum undervolt margin.

My 4900Hs needs 1.12V in Cinebench20 on all cores @3700MHz . Any comparisons?

 

Sure just like all things in undervolting if you go too far you get worse scores. You're not undervolting your 4900HS or you could actually provide some meaningful information. Software VID readings are inherently terrible so there is no comparison I could give you because you don't know what your actual voltage is.

 

Hey Seanwee,
Are you aware of a new build that supports the 4000 series? If so, I’d like to try it out, see how much more performance I can get out of the G14 before I return it.


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Only tdp works for now, luckily that's the most important one for performance.

 

Is it the current Beta build on the website? I noticed TDP works but its a little wonky.


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The latest one is 2.2.0

Can you clarify what you mean by wonky?

 

In order for me to get the TDP I want, I have to set all 3 TDP settings to the same number.


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The one that just says tdp refers to the STAPM power limit which is a messed up metric. (I'll be referring to this one as the STAPM power limit from now on)

On ryzen 3000 mobile changing the STAPM power limit doesn't affect anything as even at 55w power draw which is the maximum a 3750h uses at 4ghz all core, the STAPM power reading only shows 25w. As I said, it's a messed up metric.

Gamers nexus covered it


The other two refer to the actual power draw. One for boost and one for non-boost tdp.

Basically on ryzen there are 3 power limits. Just change all of them to your desired value.

 

So, I should only worry about the last 2 TDP setting then since STAPM doesn’t do anything?


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STAPM does something alright, it just didn't matter on last gen.

This gen might be different so change all of them just to be sure.

 

Fans loud when gaming?

 

Heh, I'm really not the best person to ask that. I use headphones while gaming and besides, I have a pretty severe hearing loss problem.

edit: I just played one of my favorite old-school games on the iGPU: Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning. It was amazing, with V-sync on it was a smooth 60 FPS on the TV I had connected. And with V-sync off, it went all the way up to 250 fps. Absolutely unreal.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Fans get rasonably loud while gaming but without any high pitch, just moving air. In comparison to other gaming laptops i know it feels alot quieter.

I treid the Smart Tunig utility and it seems to work to castrate the tdp but it also castrates any results, Benchmark scores or 25% of normal values at 35W tdp with a 4900Hs so something is clearly wrong there. Frequencies look like expected, tdp looks like expected, calculating power is a mess.

 

How to cap the CPU at baseclock with some results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/ghuvct/lm_repaste_results_cap_at_baseclock/

 

Wow, fantastic news. Will have to give this a try. Granted, I've been very pleased with my results just using Performance mode + manual GPU overclock. Been following the reddit threads, thanks for the effort.

 

I can confirm that the solution Wertzius just posted from Dr. Redditologist works well for me, and if you head over to the subreddit a bunch of people are also confirming that it works.

Mr. Mysterious.

 

This is incredible. Just tried it and fired up some Firestrike and Time Spy. Minimal performance hits. Tried the F1 2019 in game benchmark for 5 minutes. My CPU max was 69C compared to 90C prior to this adjustment. Not only that, GPU max temp was 67C. GPU core clock stayed between 1600mhz and 1725mhz the entire time. I saw no major performance hit. Fan noise is nowhere near as loud as before.

Back on Windows desktop I put the power settings back at default and the CPU fan ramped right up for a bit then gradually came back down.

I almost am in disbelief about this, just incredible.

 

I won't do that for specific singlecore high clocks peed hungry games like Anno 2800 but for 95% of the games this is an absolute credible solution for less fans rpm and lower temps.

 

I don't like anything that lowers performance in general. Just feels wrong after years of maximising pc performance.

 

Depends on the use case. Why waste energy to let Age of empires run with 268fps if 237 are still more than enough. I value quieter fans more than maybe 15% performance loss. 95% of all games are gpu bound anyway. I would not do it for single core dependent stuff.